sleaterkinney
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Well?
Has Galloway completely lost the plot?
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he never fucking had the plot the fucking tosser 
Azrael
circling Airstrip One
He's got a plot alright, one that feeds off every rebel against the man/machine/system cliché imaginable, and he's running with it. Unbeholden to any party, every self-manufactured outrage he survives unscathed makes his enemies look progressively weaker.
He's a pantomime villain, but one that paints his political foes as the fool.
Disclaimer: I think he's a bloated, self-aggrandising prick, but do admire his methods.
He's a pantomime villain, but one that paints his political foes as the fool.
Disclaimer: I think he's a bloated, self-aggrandising prick, but do admire his methods.
GarfieldLeChat
fucking awesome but wrong
by no means do i support the port sodden george melly of politics however are you honestly saying that there is something inaccurate in his words...
he is a demagogue.
dont forget his comments about Oona King before and after the elections last year. Paxman destroyed him.
hes a wylie ole politician, similar to Ken Livingston.
Prescot and the old string of labour dont get to say much in public -- probably because they will spew out 'dodgey' comments.
oh well -- Blair said he would invade Iraq all over again -- oh nice, they're all as bad as each other.
David Cameron likes 'The Killers' -- ffs they are all at it, in their slimey way/
dont forget his comments about Oona King before and after the elections last year. Paxman destroyed him.
hes a wylie ole politician, similar to Ken Livingston.
Prescot and the old string of labour dont get to say much in public -- probably because they will spew out 'dodgey' comments.
oh well -- Blair said he would invade Iraq all over again -- oh nice, they're all as bad as each other.
David Cameron likes 'The Killers' -- ffs they are all at it, in their slimey way/
X-77 said:er yeah cos someone who thinks Blair should die for all the hell he has caused is clearly mad...
like i said, if he can justify someone murdering blair, why does'nt he do it since he has access to him, he wants someone 'less important' than him to do it cos he has his career as a laughing stock to think about
i don't think assasinations are really the way forward, blair is just a part of a big system, killing him would change nothing, and galloway only said it so he could get on the news
he does anything to be famous, he's like one of those washed up soap opera actors who go on reality tv shows.....oh hang on a minute.....
X-77 said:
cos someone who thinks Blair should die for all the hell he has caused is clearly mad
Well Blair et al. New Labour are no different in causing hell than Major,Thatcher, Callaghan, Heath, Wilson -- all of them -- the governments cause hell, thats just what they do with the voting support of the commons. So that really encompasses all partys.
Not even mentioning foreign governments.
sleaterkinney
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With the situation the way it is - bombing on the underground etc, What does he think Eye for an Eye talk is going to do?
Joon said:
ethics is a big question, if this was in the philosophy forum then i would have a think about wether revenge can ever be morally justified, i would say no, i don't believe in the death penalty or murder for political reasons.
i was commenting on galloway saying this to the press, which i don't think was a metaphysical point
Kaka Tim said:
i don't believe for a second that bin laden is hiding in a cave plotting the next attack on a big computer. and i feel the same about that, killing him would do no good to anybody, he's just a puppet
i don't think saying assasination is morally justified for the benefit of the press is 'calling it like it is' .
Ninjaboy said:
Well said, Ninjaboy.
The man was asked a very leading question, a question that had more than probable agreed before hand. The answer as a reflection of the thinking of a terrorist is perfectly acceptable.
If your family had been murdered because a bomb had exploded under a Humvee and the Marines wnated someone to shoot. Who would you blame.
All the pompous talk about lives and humans has been thrown out by the actions of both Blair and Bush. The motivation for the war was based on a complete fabrication.
Just consider, a traffic accident at the end of your road or street and men with guns appear and shoot half a dozen people and just walk away.
Bit of a pisser at the best of times and not something you would just wander down to the pub to tell your mates about.
And it was happening every day.
If your family had been murdered because a bomb had exploded under a Humvee and the Marines wnated someone to shoot. Who would you blame.
All the pompous talk about lives and humans has been thrown out by the actions of both Blair and Bush. The motivation for the war was based on a complete fabrication.
Just consider, a traffic accident at the end of your road or street and men with guns appear and shoot half a dozen people and just walk away.
Bit of a pisser at the best of times and not something you would just wander down to the pub to tell your mates about.
And it was happening every day.
Descartes said:
i don't think it's fair to compare someone who is a victim of this shit with galloway who seems to be profiting from and exploiting it
galloway is an experienced politician, and if he had wanted to make a point about how someone who was involved in the violence through no fault of their own would feel he should have done that
the story here, is that George Galloway said that assasination would be morally justifiable, not that someone who's family was blown up feels it is morally justifiable. it's not comparable, he did it purely to create hype and it was a cynical statement rather than one of anger imo
tbh tho, your post went off on a tangent about something else after the first 2 sentences. he was asked a leading question, but he knew fine well what his statement was, he intended to piss people off and create division immo. he's an experienced politician, he wasn't 'tricked' by some hack
munkeeunit
sumptuous lushness
Do any of those waging these wars of aggression have the plot themselves? It is far easier to single out colorful, if occassionaly offensive and hamfisted figures like Galloway, than it is to fully take on board the sheer scale and horror of the crimes being committed in Iraq.
In future years I suspect the general population of this country will feel a similar level of self-disgust for how little they did to stop this, as your average citizen of Germany after WWII.
Is it morally justifiable to assasinate Blair? That question can't be answered or argued effectively unless everyone is aware of the magnitude of the stomach turning horrors being unleashed by the likes of Blair.
"Even those of us who have tried to follow the war closely are not aware of a fraction of the horrors unleashed in Iraq." - Author Arundathi Roy at the World Tribunal on Iraq, Istanbul, 2005.
http://www.worldtribunal.org/
In future years I suspect the general population of this country will feel a similar level of self-disgust for how little they did to stop this, as your average citizen of Germany after WWII.
Is it morally justifiable to assasinate Blair? That question can't be answered or argued effectively unless everyone is aware of the magnitude of the stomach turning horrors being unleashed by the likes of Blair.
"Even those of us who have tried to follow the war closely are not aware of a fraction of the horrors unleashed in Iraq." - Author Arundathi Roy at the World Tribunal on Iraq, Istanbul, 2005.
http://www.worldtribunal.org/
i won't feel any self disgust about the war in iraq, i've done nothing to promote it, are you saying i will feel guilty for not assasinating blair in 20 years time?
the holocaust happened in germany and was a concerted effort to perform genocide on sections of the civilian population. that is a shite comparison and trivialises the holocaust imo
war is always hell, kids no doubt got their arms blown off by allied and soviet troops trying to bring the nazi government down, or by castro and guevara liberating cuba for example. it's totally irrelevent
arundhati roy is a shit writer as well
the holocaust happened in germany and was a concerted effort to perform genocide on sections of the civilian population. that is a shite comparison and trivialises the holocaust imo
war is always hell, kids no doubt got their arms blown off by allied and soviet troops trying to bring the nazi government down, or by castro and guevara liberating cuba for example. it's totally irrelevent
arundhati roy is a shit writer as well
munkeeunit
sumptuous lushness
You're in denial then. Just dismissing it as shit and shite is crass, insensitive and brainless.
Galloway eat your heart out.
Galloway eat your heart out.
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