Has Devon got an independence movement/ do they see themselves as Celts or English?

[lizzieloo]

I've just found a surname distribution thingy.........

I should be in some kind of a society

 

[Orang Utan]

Where I was born

you know colehayes park?

 

[lizzieloo]

Yep, seriously NICE place for a wedding. Must have cost an arm and a leg

ETA: Did you get to stay there?

 

[Orang Utan]

it was lovely. stayed for 3 nights.

 

[Mr Moose]

What is the 'Devonish' Celtic legacy is and how culturally it is different from the rest of England?

Just curious like.

 

[Santino]

They could make Devon Malcolm their king.

 

[dirtyfood]

you might be, need to trace your familly tree, my mothers side is an old devonian name from way back not found outside devon and my father was irish so 99% sure i am plus i have dark hair and the 'celtic toe' which are classic sigs of celtic genes, sounds funny celtic toe lol

I have the celtic toe too

 

[fractionMan]

you might be, need to trace your familly tree, my mothers side is an old devonian name from way back not found outside devon and my father was irish so 99% sure i am plus i have dark hair and the 'celtic toe' which are classic sigs of celtic genes, sounds funny celtic toe lol

tell me more about this celtic toe

 

[strung out]

webbed feet i expect

i.e. inbred

 

[Gavin Bl]

Sorry butt, your name's not on the list...

 

[lizzieloo]

tell me more about this celtic toe

It's a long second toe, ie when it's longer than your big toe.

Like this

I expect it's bollocks though

 

[embree]

It's a long second toe, ie when it's longer than your big toe.

Like this

I expect it's bollocks though

No, it definitely looks like a toe

 

[Cribynkle]

I have, we were in Newton Abbot for the last hundred years then Plymouth into the 1760s before that Calstock in Cornwall, Cornwall!eek.

Calstock is v urban75!

 

[miss.w]

My maiden name is a little village/ hamlet just outside of Crediton, I moved to north Devon 6yrs ago then to the glorious south Devon last year, so it was awesome to find a possible link to my name as its quite uncommon.

I have that long toe thing going on, just thought it was odd, not a Celt thing.

 

[Proper Tidy]

Who gives a fuck. Romantic nationalist blah blah.

 

[madzone]

I have the toe thing too

 

[lizzieloo]

Must be the Cornwall in us

 

[Idaho]

I have a longer second toe - it's got nothing to do with any notion of 'celticness' - a notion that is itself a spurious, largely Victorian invention.

 

[lizzieloo]

I googled some feet and came to the same conclusion as some folk from South America and China have it.

Mind you they might all have Celtic ancestors too.

 

[krtek a houby]

you might be, need to trace your familly tree, my mothers side is an old devonian name from way back not found outside devon and my father was irish so 99% sure i am plus i have dark hair and the 'celtic toe' which are classic sigs of celtic genes, sounds funny celtic toe lol

In Feargal Keane's recent documentary on Ireland the old celtic myth was thoroughly de-bunked. We're not celts, apparently.

 

[lizzieloo]

In Feargal Keane's recent documentary on Ireland the old celtic myth was thoroughly de-bunked. We're not celts, apparently.

The Irish aren't Celts? Do you have a link to the documentary?

 

[lewislewis]

If people have an identity that includes cultural features that can be described as Celtic, then they are Celts. Plus Celtic is used as an actual linguistic term to describe a group of related languages so you could argue the countries that those languages are native to are Celtic in that sense.

 

[Idaho]

If people have an identity that includes cultural features that can be described as Celtic, then they are Celts. Plus Celtic is used as an actual linguistic term to describe a group of related languages so you could argue the countries that those languages are native to are Celtic in that sense.

Essentially the definition of 'celt' and 'celtish' has shrunk dramatically in the face of evidence and historical analysis. Really all it means is "doesn't culturally identify with broad notions of English/British" - those are the real goalposts. So any new definition has to avoid straying into the debunked notions of 'celtic' while still maintaining some anti-English feel.

 

[Karac]

Essentially the definition of 'celt' and 'celtish' has shrunk dramatically in the face of evidence and historical analysis. Really all it means is "doesn't culturally identify with broad notions of English/British" - those are the real goalposts. So any new definition has to avoid straying into the debunked notions of 'celtic' while still maintaining some anti-English feel.

Well all the historical/genetic analysis points towards a largely Celtic Britain with a small Germanic fringe around Eastern England-despite the ravings of English Nationalists.

 

[newme]

Dont go picking on Devon.
We put up with the Cornish moaning bout this that and everything else. .



constantly

Moaning about what exactly?

 

[lizzieloo]

Moaning about what exactly?

this, that and everything else.

 

[newme]

this, that and everything else.

Well Im cornish and dont remember moaning about it.
Any more specific examples?

 

[lizzieloo]

Well Im cornish and dont remember moaning about it.
Any more specific examples?

I'm just repeating what he said, I'm not agreeing, don't know what he's on about TBH.

 

[newme]

I'm just repeating what he said, I'm not agreeing, don't know what he's on about TBH.

Fair enough lol, wondered if there was something I was missing

 

[stuff_it]

There's a lot of this atm, Nottingham has a new flag, still no sign of a gun on it...