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Harry frigging Potter

I know one thing, Harry Potter fanfic has to be the most odious of the type.

But even this is beyond the pale. There's gotta be a special dungeon in the depths of Hogwarts for this:

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2828044/

Hi my name is Ebony Dark’ness Dementia Raven Way and I have long ebony black hair (that’s how I got my name) with purple streaks and red tips that reaches my mid-back and icy blue eyes like limpid tears and a lot of people tell me I look like Amy Lee (AN: if u don’t know who she is get da hell out of here!). I’m not related to Gerard Way but I wish I was because he’s a major fucking hottie. I’m a vampire but my teeth are straight and white. I have pale white skin. I’m also a witch, and I go to a magic school called Hogwarts in England where I’m in the seventh year (I’m seventeen). I’m a goth (in case you couldn’t tell) and I wear mostly black. I love Hot Topic and I buy all my clothes from there. For example today I was wearing a black corset with matching lace around it and a black leather miniskirt, pink fishnets and black combat boots. I was wearing black lipstick, white foundation, black eyeliner and red eye shadow. I was walking outside Hogwarts. It was snowing and raining so there was no sun, which I was very happy about. A lot of preps stared at me. I put up my middle finger at them.

Synopsis for thos who don't wish to read the whole thing:

http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/My_Immortal


:D
 
Reno said:
I don't understand why you keep reading them if you hate them so much
Yes, this somewhat surprised me too :D

You'd think if your experience suggests you don't like something, then you'd stop repeating said experience :p
 
You're all probably grown-ups, and these are children's books, so it doesn't really matter what you think. :p

Children really like them. The two children in my family have been reading the last one again this week to bring them back up to speed ready for the next one.

They're going to see the film this week. We won't be going out at midnight but I imagine we'll pick up a copy at Asda or Tesco.

I will pick up the book once they've finished or, more likely, the older girl - age 13 - will get fed up half way through and the younger one - age nine - will read the first chapter and the ending. Last time I started reading but found I could download the American audiobook as quickly as I could read it so I listened to Jim Dale instead.
 
Fullyplumped said:
I will pick up the book once they've finished or, more likely, the older girl - age 13 - will get fed up half way through and the younger one - age nine - will read the first chapter and the ending. Last time I started reading but found I could download the American audiobook as quickly as I could read it so I listened to Jim Dale instead.
Jim Robinson?:confused: :eek:
 
Vintage Paw said:
^^^ fucking hell!

I work in a bookshop and stupidly agreed to work the midnight opening.

Yay for me :rolleyes:

I have to wear a fucking stupid potter t-shirt too.

Bastards.


sorry VP, I am sad for you having to work when it's harry potter night, but I did smile at having to wear the fucking stupid potter t-shirt :D

(((VP))) x x
 
Orang Utan said:
Jim Dale from Carry On? I thought Stephen Fry did them?

Yep, Jim Dale does the American ones (& the ones easiest to download).

I don't care who reads them as long as I don't have to - I managed the first three as bedtime stories but baulked at the length of the others - they are pretty dull to read aloud, though I can see why kids like them.
 
Orang Utan said:
Jim Dale from Carry On? I thought Stephen Fry did them?
Stephen Fry does the British audiobooks but Jim Dale does them in the US. He's really quite good. The US publisher "selected Dale in part because his English accent has been tempered by living in the States since 1980. American children sometimes find very strong English accents difficult."

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Shockingly, for me at least, this star of Carry On Cowboy and Pete's Dragon is now 71 years old!
 
Authors who are better than Rowling in her field: Phillip Pullman, Tolkien, Darren Shah, and the bloke who wrote the Artemis Fowl books. And on the subject of Fowl, he is a FAR better character than shitty Potter. Expecto Petronus! Expecto-a kick in the teeth you weedy uninspiring tool.

If your reading this Rowling, then I hope your shitty derivative and badly written cack is swiftly forgotten. Do you read woman? I reckon you should read His Dark Materials and then kill yourself you polluter of the fine genre that is childrens literature
 
DotCommunist said:
Authors who are better than Rowling in her field: Phillip Pullman, Tolkien, Darren Shah, and the bloke who wrote the Artemis Fowl books. And on the subject of Fowl, he is a FAR better character than shitty Potter. Expecto Petronus! Expecto-a kick in the teeth you weedy uninspiring tool.

If your reading this Rowling, then I hope your shitty derivative and badly written cack is swiftly forgotten. Do you read woman? I reckon you should read His Dark Materials and then kill yourself you polluter of the fine genre that is childrens literature
Grown-ups' views don't matter. I couldn't be bothered with Tolkien when I was wee. Few nine-year-old girls, other than ones whose parents think them to be "gifted", would be motivated to read Tolkien or Pullman.

Anyway Harry Potter books are children's books and many very readable children''s books aren't "great".

I can't imagine that you have much time for Tracy Beaker, for example, but then you're probably in your forties. :p As am I.

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Fullyplumped said:
Grown-ups' views don't matter. I couldn't be bothered with Tolkien when I was wee. Few nine-year-old girls, other than ones whose parents think them to be "gifted", would be motivated to read Tolkien or Pullman.

Anyway Harry Potter books are children's books and many very readable children''s books aren't "great".

I can't imagine that you have much time for Tracy Beaker, for example, but then you're probably in your forties. :p As am I.

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deeply wrong dude, im a mere 24, and I read Tolkien as a child (off my own back) and LOVED it

Plus, Artemis Fowl. Short and sweet kids fiction with a similar nature to the Potter books but with one major difference. A kead character who isn't fucking shit
 
DotCommunist said:
deeply wrong dude, im a mere 24, and I read Tolkien as a child (off my own back) and LOVED it Plus, Artemis Fowl. Short and sweet kids fiction with a similar nature to the Potter books but with one major difference. A kead character who isn't fucking shit
You never said what you think about Tracy Beaker, or the Jacqueline Wilson œuvre.
 
DotCommunist said:
Authors who are better than Rowling in her field: Phillip Pullman, Tolkien, Darren Shah, and the bloke who wrote the Artemis Fowl books. And on the subject of Fowl, he is a FAR better character than shitty Potter. Expecto Petronus! Expecto-a kick in the teeth you weedy uninspiring tool.

If your reading this Rowling, then I hope your shitty derivative and badly written cack is swiftly forgotten. Do you read woman? I reckon you should read His Dark Materials and then kill yourself you polluter of the fine genre that is childrens literature

Now, I like the Artemis Fowl stories, but the writing is absolutely shit. The first book, in particular, read like the work of a 13-year-old. The storylines are engaging, though - simplistic, in some ways, but with a good pace - and the imagined world is fantastic. Harry Potter has the same pluses and the same minuses, except that the writing's actually a bit better.

I know that's a matter of opinion, but, even in terms of variation of sentence types and vocabulary, Harry Potter is still miles ahead while being aimed at the same age group.

Damnit. I swore I wouldn't bother defending these fun-but-not-great-literature books again on yet another I Hate Harry thread. (Esepcially since there are more threads complaining about Harry Potter hype than there are threads hyping Harry Potter).

I read because I was avoiding housework, and clicked post because of this:

Yuwipi Woman said:
I know one thing, Harry Potter fanfic has to be the most odious of the type.

But even this is beyond the pale. There's gotta be a special dungeon in the depths of Hogwarts for this:

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2828044/



Synopsis for thos who don't wish to read the whole thing:

http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/My_Immortal


:D

Try Googling "Gateway Girl" "Blood Magic" or the same author with "Snakes and Lions." They are both excellent works of fiction and I wouldn't hesitate to recommend them to anyone who likes well-crafted fantasy. I can't give you a link because fanfiction seems to have gone into meltdown lately and half of them have disappeared, so where you find a fic might change from day to day.

Harry Potter is a huge fanfic fandom; I would never have read any if I hadn't known a couple of people who wrote them, so I think I've avoided the really awful stuff, of which there is tons (generally written by children and teenagers, unsurprisingly!)
 
Fullyplumped said:
You never said what you think about Tracy Beaker, or the Jacqueline Wilson œuvre.

I liked the first Tracy Beaker. I loved 'The Illustrated Mum,' and liked a couple of others. Then Jacqueline Wilson got a bit egomad and started writing books about kids who love an author who bears a suspicious resemblance to Jacqueline Wilson (as does the potential foster Mum in Tracy Beaker).

(I read a ton of children's books for my PGCE; I'm not purely infantile).
 
artimis fowl is actully really rather shit in places

nice idea... but very in danger of disapearing up it's own arse many a time

however i think that series improves over time where as the potter stuff has managed to implode in under itself... the last one was terible it made artimis fowl look like Aeschylus
 
Shippou-Chan said:
artimis fowl is actully really rather shit in places

nice idea... but very in danger of disapearing up it's own arse many a time

however i think that series improves over time where as the potter stuff has managed to implode in under itself... the last one was terible it made artimis fowl look like Aeschylus

I wouldn't say the last Harry Potter was terrible, but otherwise I agree with you about the ways the series have developed. Rowling really does need a strict editor.
 
I guess that's what happens when you promise seven and the ideas run out.

As far as the children's book thing is concerned: why the adult covers then? Why the promotion towards the adults? When at best, the books don't go much beyond a Mallory Towers edge into life.

I think I wouldn't mind if they were just a kids book -- like the other popular one at the moment whos name I can't recall -- it's all the ruddy promotion, like it's the greatest works ever.

Then there's the knock-on effect of loads of other crappy kids books aimed at adults too.

Plus, someone said, "It gets people reading". Well, I wager a lot of people would think that this reading's lark a pile of wank if the only book they've read is HP. Considering the hype.
 
J77 said:
I guess that's what happens when you promise seven and the ideas run out.

As far as the children's book thing is concerned: why the adult covers then? Why the promotion towards the adults? When at best, the books don't go much beyond a Mallory Towers edge into life.

I think I wouldn't mind if they were just a kids book -- like the other popular one at the moment whos name I can't recall -- it's all the ruddy promotion, like it's the greatest works ever.

Then there's the knock-on effect of loads of other crappy kids books aimed at adults too.

Plus, someone said, "It gets people reading". Well, I wager a lot of people would think that this reading's lark a pile of wank if the only book they've read is HP. Considering the hype.

I have not read them myself, but I think you are in a very small minorty as everyone here at work who has read HP raves about it.
 
PacificOcean said:
I have not read them myself, but I think you are in a very small minorty as everyone here at work who has read HP raves about it.
:eek:

The entire workforce of Maccy D's have read HP!

:eek:

:p ;)
 
i've just had an e-mail from my friend who i'm seeing this weekend asking me and everyone else we're meeting up with not to ruin the ending of the new book.:rolleyes:

for pete's sake.

i just don't understand how adults can find them interesting/challenging.

I tried to read the first one but found it boring...probably like I would most kid's books. And if ONE more person says to me.."oh the first one is rubbish, they get so much better"..

so why did you keep reading after the first rubbish book??!!
 
Because of the hype...

It is the hype that's most annoying. I've mostly managed to ignore it - I saw the first film and thought it was ok but really was a kid's story, since then I just try to close my eyes and ears to it.

Philip Pullman is really good though.
 
electrogirl said:
i just don't understand how adults can find them interesting/challenging.

Because most adults have the reading age of a 10 year old...

electrogirl said:
so why did you keep reading after the first rubbish book??!!

Because they are stupid...? :D

If anyone over the age of 15 tells me they've read the HP books I assume they are an idiot, and can be ignored... :D
 
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