Harrasment You've suffered on a bicycle

[moose]

It works the other way too, you know

Edit: ooops - just noticed the other thread. Sorry. As you were...

 

[parallelepipete]

Really? How utterly irrational of them.

Seriously tho, why not find alternative routes that are not so fast moving? It staggers me when cyclists and pedestrians complain that faster-moving traffic flows of heavy objects are not nore friendly to them.

Yeah Spion, it's REALLY unreasonable that cyclists and pedestrians expect to be able to use the same direct routes between home and work that car drivers do. I mean FFS, the car drivers have paid road tax and none of it gets spent on them, does it? And it is after all the fault of the cyclists and pedestrians, not the motorists, that the road is dangerous, isn't it?

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[parallelepipete]

Glasgow city centre's a great place. A police van changed lanes into me from the right, narrowly avoiding knocking me over because I swerved (though it was lucky because on my left there was a busy filter lane for the M8). When we got to the next lights, I asked them whether they'd seen me (their window was open). Their reply was basically that I should have been in the right-hand lane (even though I was going straight on, and the right-hand lane was only for traffic turning onto the M8 the other way).

The best bit was that as I'd moved to the front of the queue, the van was behind me. Just having cleared the junction I heard a revving diesel engine and the police van swerve into me!

They were stupid fuckers though - they seemed to have forgotten that (a) I had their reg. no. and (b) there was a police station about 500 m down the road. So when they turned into it, I went straight behind them and made an allegation of dangerous driving against them.

It was very satisfying to hear their apologies though!

 

[Jangla]

I mostly get kids yelling and whooping at me, and pretending to jump out in front of me.

Last Thursday morning one kid decides to do this and I've had enough. I stick my arm out and twat him across the chest. As my arm strikes him, his whooping gives way to a deafening silence only to be punctuated a second later with the sound of his can of Irn Bru hitting the pavement.

I felt really bad afterwards but I hope he learned his lesson not to mess with cyclists.

Brilliant! Cycle assited clothes line - very nice.

I've had a woman indicate right, move out to the right side of the lane and changed her mind and turned left at the last second as I was passing. I went over the bonnet, swiftly followed by the bike which landed on me. She was, admittedly, very apologetic but both her and hubby got rather vocal when I suggested I take their details to pay for the extensive damage to the bike (bent frame, handle bars, front derallieur fucked, back brake handle snapped, front wheel buckled, etc etc etc.

Does piss me off when cyclists disregard all road sign and traffic lights though - no fucking excuse, especially as you're not insured.

 

[Spion]

Yeah Spion, it's REALLY unreasonable that cyclists and pedestrians expect to be able to use the same direct routes between home and work that car drivers do. I mean FFS, the car drivers have paid road tax and none of it gets spent on them, does it? And it is after all the fault of the cyclists and pedestrians, not the motorists, that the road is dangerous, isn't it?

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I suppose you use motorways too?

No, probably not, because certain classes of vehicles are too slow to be safe on them and are banned. I'd argue pushbikes should be banned from 60mph limit (ie national speed limit) roads or be given a bike lane.

My comments were directed at the OP who was complaining about the rough treatment they got on '60mph single lane roads'.

 

[gaijingirl]

Does piss me off when cyclists disregard all road sign and traffic lights though - no fucking excuse, especially as you're not insured.

I'm insured. If you join LCC you get free 3rd party insurance.

 

[Spion]

I'm insured. If you join LCC you get free 3rd party insurance.

Is your trailer insured too? Things could get nasty with the amount of weight you haul around

 

[Jangla]

I'm insured. If you join LCC you get free 3rd party insurance.

Good for you - does your policy state you can now go through red lights?

Thought not.

 

[gaijingirl]

Good for you - does your policy state you can now go through red lights?

Thought not.

Did I say anything about red lights? No.. I'm just pointing out that contrary to your post that some cyclists are insured.

 

[gaijingirl]

Is your trailer insured too? Things could get nasty with the amount of weight you haul around

God.. anyone who actually manages to drive into me and a trailer full of plants cycling very slowly would really have to be driving really badly! As for red light... there's no whizzing through anything when you're pulling a load!!

 

[Jangla]

Did I say anything about red lights? No.. I'm just pointing out that contrary to your post that some cyclists are insured.

hehehe - I know. Would be interested to know what that covers you for actually. Seems a really good deal to get free insurance considering you could cause some pretty hefty damage.

More to the point, why isn't it compulsory?

 

[gaijingirl]

hehehe - I know. Would be interested to know what that covers you for actually. Seems a really good deal to get free insurance considering you could cause some pretty hefty damage.

More to the point, why isn't it compulsory?

A summary of coverage...

All LCC members are automatically covered for up to £1million damage or injury
The member pays the first £250 of any claim
The scheme covers the UK only

 

[parallelepipete]

I suppose you use motorways too?

No, probably not, because certain classes of vehicles are too slow to be safe on them and are banned. I'd argue pushbikes should be banned from 60mph limit (ie national speed limit) roads or be given a bike lane.

My comments were directed at the OP who was complaining about the rough treatment they got on '60mph single lane roads'.

Sarcasm!

So cyclists should only be allowed to cycle where the speed limit is lower than 60? That's most rural roads out of bounds then. I assume that you'd argue for the construction of a two-way segregated cycle track alongside every one of these roads?

 

[WasGeri]

I'm insured. If you join LCC you get free 3rd party insurance.

Most household insurance policies will cover you for 3rd party risks as well.

 

[gaijingirl]

Most household insurance policies will cover you for 3rd party risks as well.

There you go then... so many cyclists are insured...!!

 

[toggle]

I suppose you use motorways too?

No, probably not, because certain classes of vehicles are too slow to be safe on them and are banned. I'd argue pushbikes should be banned from 60mph limit (ie national speed limit) roads or be given a bike lane.

My comments were directed at the OP who was complaining about the rough treatment they got on '60mph single lane roads'.

considering the vast majority of roads outside towns are of this sort, you are effectively then limiting cyclists to riding in town, which isn't acceptable.

Why punish the cyclists for the actions of bad drivers, deal with the bad driving instead.

 

[Spion]

considering the vast majority of roads outside towns are of this sort, you are effectively then limiting cyclists to riding in town, which isn't acceptable.

Why punish the cyclists for the actions of bad drivers, deal with the bad driving instead.

I'm all for dealing with the actions of any bad road user.

Where 60mph traffic and slower road users like bicycles are mixing on the same highway there are bound to be problems with traffic flow or conflicts between them.

 

[Spion]

Sarcasm!

So cyclists should only be allowed to cycle where the speed limit is lower than 60? That's most rural roads out of bounds then. I assume that you'd argue for the construction of a two-way segregated cycle track alongside every one of these roads?

There's hardly any need for me to be on the other end of this discussion as you seem to be amusing yourself plenty by dreaming up all sorts of nonsense you assume I think.

Cycle lanes are a good idea, no?

Not having slower vehicles on motorways is a good idea, no?

Perhaps a combination of prohibition and segregation of different vehicle classes would alleviate conflicts between different types of traffic.

 

[Hollis]

I gave up cycling. Too traumatic.

 

[tommers]

Cycle lanes are a good idea, no?

in a lot of cases.... no.

 

[Alf Klein]

I suppose you use motorways too?

No, probably not, because certain classes of vehicles are too slow to be safe on them and are banned. I'd argue pushbikes should be banned from 60mph limit (ie national speed limit) roads or be given a bike lane.

My comments were directed at the OP who was complaining about the rough treatment they got on '60mph single lane roads'.

You seem to be saying that if you cycle, or walk on a single lane 6 mph road, then you deserve to be hit by a car.

 

[Alf Klein]

A few angry motorists have got out of their cars and tried to get me. However, reading some of the other posts, I feel pretty lucky.

 

[toggle]

I'm all for dealing with the actions of any bad road user.

Where 60mph traffic and slower road users like bicycles are mixing on the same highway there are bound to be problems with traffic flow or conflicts between them.

so how would you seperate cyclists from cars without banning cyclists from most out of town roads?

 

[Spion]

You seem to be saying that if you cycle, or walk on a single lane 6 mph road, then you deserve to be hit by a car.

Yeah, that's exactly what I said isn't it?

 

[Spion]

so how would you seperate cyclists from cars without banning cyclists from most out of town roads?

wider A roads; cycle lanes; cycle routes using B roads, canals, old rlwy lines etc; banning cyclists from - dual-carriageway, fast moving - roads which could not be treated in these ways.

It just seems to that bicycles and motor vehicles are not happy companions on some roads. In some cases - out of town, trunk roads etc - priority sould be given to motor traffic flow and in other - town centres etc - motor vehicles could face more restrictions

I dunno, that's just off the top of my head. What are your solutions?

 

[Alf Klein]

Yeah, that's exactly what I said isn't it?

Maybe all those national speed limit roads should have 30 mph limits introduced.

 

[toggle]

wider A roads; cycle lanes; cycle routes using B roads, canals, old rlwy lines etc; banning cyclists from - dual-carriageway, fast moving - roads which could not be treated in these ways.

It just seems to that bicycles and motor vehicles are not happy companions on some roads. In some cases - out of town, trunk roads etc - priority sould be given to motor traffic flow and in other - town centres etc - motor vehicles could face more restrictions

I dunno, that's just off the top of my head. What are your solutions?

and you actually think this is affordable/achievable?

i think alf's suggestion looks much more acvhievable

 

[Spion]

and you actually think this is affordable/achievable?

i think alf's suggestion looks much more acvhievable

haha, that's right. Spending some taxes on making roads work better for all road users is a utopia but getting all traffic to do 30mph is achieveable. What planet are you posting from exactly?

 

[Major Tom]

wider A roads; cycle lanes; cycle routes using B roads, canals, old rlwy lines etc; banning cyclists from - dual-carriageway, fast moving - roads which could not be treated in these ways.

It just seems to that bicycles and motor vehicles are not happy companions on some roads. In some cases - out of town, trunk roads etc - priority sould be given to motor traffic flow and in other - town centres etc - motor vehicles could face more restrictions

I dunno, that's just off the top of my head. What are your solutions?

most motorists are fine - its only dealing with the few wankers who refuse to recognise road users other than cars and lorries. I suggest that police enforce the laws as they stand, something they seem reluctant to do at the moment.

Your ideas are ridiculously impractical.

 

[Spion]

Your ideas are ridiculously impractical.

Most are already used, but not everywhere.