Ha, yes they go on foreverWhat you calling my dad?
They're wharfedales and still make a nice sound.

Would depend on the volume and type of work to a degree. Obviously day in day out usage needs high capacity batteries and pro tools whereas occasional DIY usage not so much.Bumpity, bumpity, bump bump bump
Right chaps and chapesses - I "might" be in the market to replace my cheap 'n' cheerful, yet ancient B & Q Mac Allister cordless tool kit
This consists of:-
Now, it looks like I can get both batteries re-celled for "around" £100 give or take a bit but what I'd end up with would be an old cordless tool kit with new batteries - it could be argued that this is all I need as I'm hardly the DIY man about town
- Hammer drill
- Nailer
- Reciprocating saw
- Torch
- 2 x batteries
- 1 x charger
But would this be throwing good money after bad . . . might it be worth springing for a new cordless kit, but with more relevant tools - the hammer drill is a must as far as I'm concerned - I don't think that I've ever used the nailer apart from the initial "I wonder what this does" . . . PaChing . . . PaChing . . . PaChing . . . "Oo! that's useful" and promptly NEVER used it again
I like the idea of a saw, not necessarily circular, a reciprocating would do . . . I 'spose <sulk>
What about these "multi-cutter" do-dahs? Any good?
And which brand - having had a look back through this thread I don't think the Makita 500 x recharge cycles'll be much of a problem - but it is a bit naughty
And budget - I absolutely know that it's not going to be cheap like the B & Q thingy, but I felt that, even I, got value for money from it - but looking at ScrewFix, I realise that "going North" of £500 won't be difficult - Hmmm! what to do, what to do


Makita for me, whoever designs the grips for their drills/impact drivers has hands closer in shape to mine than whoever does that job at DeWalt![]()
don't think they're much available here in the states, at least i haven't seen them at home depot/lowe's.You want to get Festool everything. Because they're German.
which is what i'd be using them for.Depends how much heavy use they're going to get. No need for a high-end brand if you're just doing a bit of home DIY.
right, will make a note. i have a few ryobi things, they're okay but i'm not wedded to the brand.The Dewalt and Makita stuff seems most robust
Then honestly just buy the cheap rebranded chinese one from Home Depot or wherever. DeWalt and Makita are expensive because they're for people who use them day in day out in their job. The parts are made with more expensive materials and processes because they're going to take a beating. Your home use probably won't add up to more than a couple of days in a "pro" environment so you can happily get away with cheap tools. My plug-in drill at home cost £25 and I've had it for 15 years with no complaints.i'm in the market for a cordless drill, mostly for pesky screws
thx for these responses.
don't think they're much available here in the states, at least i haven't seen them at home depot/lowe's.
To an certain extent. Just don't buy cheap drills/screwdriver bits to use with the drill.home use... you can happily get away with cheap tools
Amen to that.To an certain extent. Just don't buy cheap drills/screwdriver bits to use with the drill.
And when it comes to non power tools, never buy cheap. Shitty screwdrivers/Allen keys etc are the work of the devil. Buy as good as you possibly can and they'll last a lifetime and actually remove screws and bolts rather than making you cry in frustration.
yyyup. my last screwdriver cost a bit, nice thick rubberized handle gives a good grip, stout stem, love it (stanley).Amen to that.
Would like twice if I could.
yyyup. my last screwdriver cost a bit, nice thick rubberized handle gives a good grip, stout stem, love it (stanley).
it ratchets both ways, which is very useful, but i wonder, from an engineering point of view, if that creates a point of weakness. it hasn't failed me, anyway.
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Unless you’re among those gifted few who are truly handy around the house, you can generally get away with a few reliable, multipurpose tools. A screwdriver that does it all is one of them.
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Get some ear defenders if you do. Almost everyone on site uses impact drivers with no ear protection. I forsee huge amounts of hearing loss/damage in years to come (obviously happens now but will be exacerbated by impact driver useage). It’s unbearable being around them, let alone using one close to your head.If you're putting in or taking out a lot of screws, I would consider getting an impact driver as well. Better at getting out stuck screws, much quicker at driving new ones, and less chance of stripping the head
Doesn't sound like much fun ...Get some ear defenders if you do. Almost everyone on site uses impact drivers with no ear protection. I forsee huge amounts of hearing loss/damage in years to come (obviously happens now but will be exacerbated by impact driver useage). It’s unbearable being around them, let alone using one close to your head.
