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FridgeMagnet said:
I write, but I've come to the conclusion that it's important to know what you can and can't do within "writing" (which is, after all, rather vague) and aim towards that.

For instance: I am congenitally unable to write anything that looks like a novel, for instance, and I can't do "plot". I do not think in terms of plot. Dialogue, on the other hand, and little vignettes, I do quite well I think, and can construct a broader context for them all. So I could have an ongoing project creating a character and setting with the addition of little pieces every now and then. I'll never write a novel though - well, I might, but if I do it won't be much good.

This is my problem too. I think I come up with decent characters and dialogue, but people have complained ever since I first wrote longish stories at 14 that it's too traveloguey without a proper plot. Problem is that I tend to make it up as I go along. I really need to plot something out.
 
Well, I was planning to be a prolific writer but.....um.....er.....


...sniff....

...rearranges pens...

...um
 
I think so many of us (me included) think we can be writers because it looks achievable in a way that, say, playing the violin doesn't. 'I mean, anyone can write,' we say to ourselves, 'I've written stuff.'
 
FridgeMagnet said:
I write, but I've come to the conclusion that it's important to know what you can and can't do within "writing" (which is, after all, rather vague) and aim towards that.

For instance: I am congenitally unable to write anything that looks like a novel, for instance, and I can't do "plot". I do not think in terms of plot. Dialogue, on the other hand, and little vignettes, I do quite well I think, and can construct a broader context for them all. So I could have an ongoing project creating a character and setting with the addition of little pieces every now and then. I'll never write a novel though - well, I might, but if I do it won't be much good.

Much the same for me. My ideas are good, I can write great little sections of dialogue or description but cannot seem to write anything of a decent length.

As for my poetry. Mmm .. there are a couple of poems I am really proud of. But as for the rest.... self-indulgent drivel comes to mind
 
Alex B said:
I think so many of us (me included) think we can be writers because it looks achievable in a way that, say, playing the violin doesn't. 'I mean, anyone can write,' we say to ourselves, 'I've written stuff.'

Very, very true.
 
Well, in my case I came through fanzines, probably wrote quite a lot that wasn't very good for a long time, but had a certain viewpoint and style which was original and distinctive. And I didn't get sidetracked into thinking that because I could write a good polemical piece about attitudes to Diego Maradona, this meant I could write a novel...
 
I make my living as a writer, and do alright from it. What I do now is not what I'd want to write about if I really had a choice. But, perhaps in a couple of years time I will have got to a stage where I can write about what truly fires me up
 
i keep starting to write a novel, then part way in (usually not very far) I get a better idea and think, "Hmm ill write that instead!"

And so it goes......man needs to focus!
 
I won a regional short-story writing competition at the age of 9. This did me no favours. I started about 15 novels in the following years, up until the age of 18. Have entertained big ideas about being a writer of novels, but with no actual substance to them. Started putting together ideas for a smart-arsed novel last year. Did half a page. :(
 
Written a few short things, been published a couple of times, never sold anything in sufficient number to worth it. OUP once offered to publish a book of mine on the EU single market and small business, but I never got round to finishing it, I guess I've missed the boat now.

I am beginning to think that I'd like another go though, but need a subject sufficiant to motivate me.
 
Donna Ferentes said:
As a rule, if you're on the internet, you aren't writing. One of them has to go.

<unaccountably fails to disappear>

So so so so true. My biggest writing spurt was 99-2001 when I was in one room at Newham council with literally nothing to do, just me and a computer, no interweb, I sat and bashed out the story all day every day at work. Then I moved to another room and suddenly they gave us internet, which at first was great, but it hammered my writing.
 
Anyway I recommend nanowrimo to anyone suffering creative block. Last year (2006)'s one got me back into writing. The resultant project is now 200 pages and I'm nearing the conclusion.

It needs a loooooooooooooooooooooooooot of editing though!
 
One thing I'd recommend to prospective writers who haven't done it: go buy a book about screenplay writing, and read it. Maybe you don't want to write screenplays, but the method outlined there will work fine for a novel.

Someone else said that people think they can write because they've written stuff before. But it seems there's more to writing a novel than just sitting down and trying to let the ideas flow. It's a procedure, just like playing the violin....
 
my next book will knock em out if I ever finish it. My biggest problem is never finishing what I start. If I ever do finish one I know that two people will read it.
 
I write -maybe I am a cult author (no typo here) which means a small select number know I exist. Lots of poems, one book 'Still Searching for the Big City Beats'.

I should take this advice to heart but if u want to write a novel, there is one key factor - discipline. There must be millions of unfinished novels out there, draw a plan -write one side of A4 a day, stick to it. By th end of the year u will have a novel.

Also some good advice is on no account fall into the trap of a publisher asking u for monies to publish your book. My real example was a publisher in Manchester asking me for £10,000 to help publish my novel!

No shame in self publishing (got a deal £600 for 600 books) at £6.99 a book u can do the maths. Have not become rich but all u writers -go, go and all the best.
 
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