Hampton & Richmond v Dulwich Hamlet - Saturday 12 January 2019

Discussion in 'Dulwich Hamlet FC' started by Blitzwalker, Jan 9, 2019.

  1. RabbleLevi

    RabbleLevi Well-Known Member

    I was listening on the radio, will watch the highlights and see if it was as bad as it sounds. It’s still a very competitive team and I do feel like there is no belief amongst the players. I believe there is a place for GR philosophy in this league but not right now. We need to batten down the hatches because we are in a relegation battle. We will survive!
  2. Blitzwalker

    Blitzwalker Well-Known Member

    Sorry for the lack of a considered reply but I was at the game today and I think we’re in the the doo-doo.
  3. B.I.G

    B.I.G Well-Known Member

    People. It’s like we never lost to Fatty McCann before #GoodPitch
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  4. MrFab_JP

    MrFab_JP Member

    Seems to be a combination of factors at the mo, I reckon the team are just about good enough to stay up but confidence is clearly quite low.
    Defensively our mistakes have cost us much more at this level, than in previous seasons, and the lack of a consistent goal scorer simply emphasises this. It is both frustrating and massively disappointing to lose games, I'm sure it's equally felt by Gavin and his team, and I'm sure they will turn it around.
  5. Blitzwalker

    Blitzwalker Well-Known Member

    We’ve lost to Gary’s team’s before but there was something in the nature of today’s defeat that was worrying. There seemed little fight or passion amongst the players. Dare I say it, but has Gavin “lost the dressing room”?

    Bit of a cliche I know but if the players really have stopped listening to him we could be in serious trouble. I’m in no way party to whatever may or may not be going on behind the scenes but to my eyes at least, all is not well.
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  6. B.I.G

    B.I.G Well-Known Member

    New Players Please :)
  7. Moroccan Sunset

    Moroccan Sunset Well-Known Member

    I may be wrong, but I didn't see Gavin come over to the fans at the end. Bearing in mind the unrest at the moment, I would say that's unwise to say the least.
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  8. Blitzwalker

    Blitzwalker Well-Known Member

    I don’t know what the answer is - I’m not a sufficiently knowledgeable football person to understand this but there is a serious problem. I think we perhaps need to move on from the blanket “in Gavin we trust” syndrome and examine all possible potential issues. Whatever the problem might be , right now, it’s the last thing we need.
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  9. B.I.G

    B.I.G Well-Known Member

    Classic Gav again. Gav won’t change for better or worse. But he is still the same manager he has always been.

    Is it league position that suddently affects everyone’s opinion.

    If so, who got us here?
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  10. dcdulwich

    dcdulwich Well-Known Member

    26/8/2018 was peak wide of the mark. But you’re right, probably not the time or place. Happy however, to discuss in person.
  11. gnar182

    gnar182 i am an okay person

    Yeah you’re right, let’s disregard anything he does wrong now or in the future because he scraped us up through the play offs by virtue of a penalty lottery.
  12. B.I.G

    B.I.G Well-Known Member

    Maybe the 10 fucking years work. Idiot.
  13. Blitzwalker

    Blitzwalker Well-Known Member

    Gavin undoubtedly has got the club where it is today. Hopefully, he’ll get us out of this “crisis” (if that’s what it is) but it’s also right for his position and man management style to be challenged. Every one of us has their ceiling in life, whether it be work capabilities or abilities in other walks of life. Perhaps Gavin has reached his? I don’t know, that’s for him or perhaps others to decide.

    All I can see is that there seems to be significant unrest in the Dulwich Hamlet workplace. Looking at this from a ‘normal’, i.e. non-football context, I can understand that when a load of your work mates get ironed out and publicly criticised as has happened over the past week or so, then there’s bound to be a reaction, rightly or wrongly. It’s one thing dealing with a bunch of surly 16 and 17 year old youth football players who might feel that they’re being hard done by, but it’ll be a far greater test of Gavin’s man management skills to smooth the current situation over successfully.
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  14. B.I.G

    B.I.G Well-Known Member

    All true. But Gavin is the same now as he always was and there has been no more upheaval than most seasons.
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  15. Blitzwalker

    Blitzwalker Well-Known Member

    I don’t pretend to know the answer to this but it’s not a life-threatening crisis. However, I do think there is room for conciliatory behaviour from both sides. The players need to get their act together and show a bit of pride and professionalism (even those on the transfer list) and the on-field management need to show a bit of flexibility and recognise that they may not be entirely blameless in this current scenario.

    Whatever we might all think, next Saturday’s match at East Thurrock has now assumed massive importance and could quite possibly be a season-defining game. Let’s just hope it isn’t windy.
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  16. scousedom

    scousedom Well-Known Member

    In the Herne Tavern. They have Lowenbrau on tap and seem reasonably proud of it.
    So, you know, let’s get some perspective on here. There are bigger crimes going on.
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  17. Blitzwalker

    Blitzwalker Well-Known Member

    Beer crime is the worst of all and puts everything that happened today into perspective.
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  18. EDC

    EDC A Slightly Less Invisible Cyber Fan These Days

    I always liked Lowenbrau, at least it’s a genuine German brand brewed under licence name unlike Hofmeister.
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  19. scousedom

    scousedom Well-Known Member

    We had it in my Uni bar. Grossly overpriced at £1.40 a pint.
  20. Cyclodunc

    Cyclodunc Where's the slam tent, mate?

    Oh god not again
  21. Pink Panther

    Pink Panther Well-Known Member

    This was the worst beer crime we saw today, at the Jolly Coopers:

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  22. Roger D

    Roger D Well-Known Member

    Hampton away has a habit of being a big game given how rarely we play them. The season we got relegated from th Prem it was Hampton away I gave up all hope. Sadly it was something like October, one of those mid-week games when you questioned your sanity for turning up.

    A few seasons later we won there around Easter in Div One South in a promotion six pointer. Their skipper stopped his car as I left to wish us well in the Premier the next season. We promptly went on a horror run and blew up in the play offs. If memory serves me correctly they nicked a promotion spot to make it a bit more painful for us.

    Hopefully this defeat will prove to be as unimportant as that win did. It looks horribly like three down from six now. Weston Super Mate away could yet be huge.

    Dukwich Hamlet Women's FC played a cup final at Hampton too. They lost.
  23. pompeydunc

    pompeydunc Well-Known Member

    Nah, Eastbourne Borough away when he was shocking.
    I think we are losing because we ARE trying to batten down the hatches, but doing a terrible job of it. We don't have the players in the squad to do it, nor is it the style of the management. GR could have created a siege mentality, but has done the opposite and consistently berated the team and individuals. Hence morale is at all a time low. I doubt we will survive if we continue with this negative football, as all the other teams are better at it...and have the players for it.

    The sooner we can get to a formation and style that suit our squad the better. We will certainly continue to lose games and be 'out smarted' in games, but we will also pick up points, e.g. Chelmsford away at start of the season when we still had faith in our style.

    Let's get back to 3-5-2, sign a defensive midfielder, Gav to get back to backing HIS squad and play like we know we can.
  24. pompeydunc

    pompeydunc Well-Known Member

    It would be accurate if an apostrophe was added to it.
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  25. HFCJohn

    HFCJohn Well-Known Member

    I thought the crucial moment yesterday was when Sheriff knocked the ball just wide when one-on-one shortly before half-time. That goes in, there's some renewed confidence just before the break and its game on.

    After gaining the 2 early goals Hampton then had a platform upon which they could defend, which they did pretty well. Once again, as in the return fixture, the experience of Downer and Dundas through the spine was crystal clear for all to see. They didn't produce much else of note in the first half, but posed more of a threat when Zak Joseph replaced Dickson at half-time.

    From the outside looking in, there were a lot of parallels I could draw between Dulwich and Hendon at the moment. A side clearly short of confidence and looking a lot more tentative on the ball than I think I can recall and playing within themselves to try and avoid making a mistake. Safety-first football which is usually, in my view, counter-productive when no-one feels confident enough to take responsibility. Kargbo, who I thought was monumental in the play-off final, feels like a colossal miss. Or someone of his stature.

    After the game I was talking to Gary McCann's father-in-law who follows Gary home and away, week in week out and some of the numbers he was mentioning in terms of what players were asking for at this level are just monumental. That makes attracting the sort of talent that is going to stand out at this level flipping difficult - but Gavin's come through tough times before and I think he'll come through this testing period as well and hopefully as a better manager for it.

    I still think you'll be okay and stay up. I hope you are, anyway.

    Was really good to catch up with a few familiar faces - and spend a bit of time chatting with some new ones too - in the Railway Bell, at the game and then the Jolly Coopers afterwards. Will aim to get down to the Hill before the end of the season.

    Until then - good luck!
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  26. Griff_Turnstile

    Griff_Turnstile Agenda confused turnstile operator

    Not even glass half full...
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  27. Griff_Turnstile

    Griff_Turnstile Agenda confused turnstile operator

    With work meaning fewer games this season it’s hard to judge the performances based on edited highlights on DHFCTV and snippets of information from other areas but for my two pennyworth I’d like to add that it was pretty much given that it would be whole new ball game at this level in comparison to the Isthmian League. Others with more experience than me of watching the Hamlet have stated as much either here, elsewhere or in person. In the past Gavin has been in a better position to pretty much start from scratch at the beginning of a campaign something that he no longer has the same level of freedom to do. This leaves his hands tied in regards to some players that may (or may not in people’s opinion) be suitable at this level. I would hope that people stick by him and the team in the same way they have stuck by this club in some of its darkest hours.
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  28. JoeBoy1959

    JoeBoy1959 Well-Known Member

    Yes he may still certainly is (with an apostrophe)
  29. JoeBoy1959

    JoeBoy1959 Well-Known Member

    Quade; Touré; Chambers
    Ming; Greene
    Nyren; Dipo; Banton
  30. JoeBoy1959

    JoeBoy1959 Well-Known Member

    That's 5-1-3-1

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