Hampton & Richmond v Dulwich Hamlet - Saturday 12 January 2019

Discussion in 'Dulwich Hamlet FC' started by Blitzwalker, Jan 9, 2019.

  1. Moroccan Sunset

    Moroccan Sunset Well-Known Member

    Are they worse, or are they just so bereft of confidence that they appear worse? This is the same side that beat a Woking side that is in, arguably, pole position to win the division.

    I think we've got an unbalanced side (all ball players, no bruisers), no leadership and some of the selections are nonsensical - why we decided to switch to a back four in one of the biggest games of the season is unfathomable, but to put then put Quade in as the right back is madness. (I personally like Quade for the record, but he has to play as a centre half.)
     
  2. bkbk

    bkbk Well-Known Member

    Not holding it up/giving it away cheaply/slipping over.

    Rightly or wrongly.
     
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  3. gnar182

    gnar182 i am an okay person

    No, that’s why I said at this level.

    I just feel the problems this season seem to be just as much about poor management/bad tactical decisions than just players not being good enough. I think this squad is more than good enough to be clear of a relegation fight.
     
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  4. RabbleLevi

    RabbleLevi Well-Known Member

    Wasn’t there but a back four? I understand Gavin wants to intergrate the new players into the team but Quade isn’t a Righ Back and Green has never looked comfortable as an out and out Left Back. It’s not the the first time he has done done this but I thought the signing of two additional defenders meant that we would have plenty of Cover to play five at the back. Disappointing to see GR is switching the system, makes next week a must win...
     
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  5. Lucy Fur

    Lucy Fur Well-Known Member

    The score against Barking flattered us, so perhaps its no surprise H&R smelt blood and took their chance. This was a game we needed a draw minimum from. There's still time to turn it around and avoid relegation, but I suspect avoiding relegation is going to be as good as it gets this season. I look forward to Gavins interview. :(
     
  6. StephenMac

    StephenMac Well-Known Member

    Sort of agree but people get overly excited about signing players from a higher league. This division is packed with those kinds of players, doesn't mean anything. I'm going to stay out of the debate about who should and shouldn't be playing from our existing squad because I'm a coward...but I think last season's best 11 would still beat this season's. Oh for Acheampong and Hayles right now (while appreciating that they went where the money is) for starters.
     
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  7. pitchfork

    pitchfork Well-Known Member

    Sorry is one win in 11 great management?
     
  8. pitchfork

    pitchfork Well-Known Member

    He has a squad good enough to compete at this level. It just seems he sulks when things don’t go his way with an attitude of I’ll take my ball away so no one can play. I believe he knows what to do but can’t bring himself to admit he gets things wrong from time to time, then deliberately plays players out of position or doesn’t play them at all to prove a point.
     
  9. StephenMac

    StephenMac Well-Known Member

    No, but please don't apologise.
     
  10. StephenMac

    StephenMac Well-Known Member

    I'm as mystified as anyone about Erskine but I'm not convinced this squad is good enough for this division.
     
  11. Moroccan Sunset

    Moroccan Sunset Well-Known Member

    The budget certainly is.
     
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  12. StephenMac

    StephenMac Well-Known Member

    Perhaps, I'm not party to such things.
     
  13. Pthorne

    Pthorne Well-Known Member

    Disastrous start. Not a good performance, but had a number of chances to get back into it tho.

    Heard some pretty out of order comments about Erskine from a couple of fans, some were shouted loud enough for him to have heard. First time I’d heard that sort of thing at a Dulwich match and I hate that sort of thing personally.

    Would tend to agree players confidence looked low today, Chambers in particular didn’t look himself 1st half.
     
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  14. Moroccan Sunset

    Moroccan Sunset Well-Known Member

    And yet how many games did Tomlin get despite making similar or worse mistakes.
     
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  15. Moroccan Sunset

    Moroccan Sunset Well-Known Member

    I heard some comments too, but frankly if he's in that physical condition it's not to be unexpected. If he wants the comments to stop he needs to get himself on a treadmill pretty quickly.
     
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  16. pengedragon

    pengedragon Member

    As someone said up thread, at the moment there are too many ball players and not enough battlers

    We should be playing 352, Ming and Green should be wing backs

    Kargbo needs replacing as a defensive midfielder ASAP if he's not fit himself, Ash Carew can't do it and shouldn't be asked to

    Dipo is surely one of the 2 best strikers and should be starting

    Frustrating, seen the majority of games this season and I'm not having it that we are one of the three worst teams in the division

    Just my opinion, back to lurking
     
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  17. Son of Roy

    Son of Roy Thinks Gavin Rose is great

    There is no one single problem to fix. We don't have the strongest squad in the division and have been lacking in key positions e.g. midfield. I think the players have let the manager down. We have had dreadful mistakes like defenders preventing a corner by heading the ball back into the penalty area! The new players would take time to adapt to the system. Most of the teams we are playing have one or two special players to take advantage of particular situations. We seem to have lost that.
    But shouting abuse at the players is not the Dulwich way! Trust Gavin.
     
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  18. Poids

    Poids Well-Known Member

    I would question whether it has the balance, particularly in midfield where we seem to carry very little goal threat, whilst simultaneously offering minimal protection to the defence. If injury means Kargbo can no longer play there, we effectively have one defensive midfielder in the squad in Onuvwigun, who was mainly a squad player when we were playing at a lower level, and when he has played this season has been played as a centre back. Oh and he's also out injured.

    As today showed once again, it's not enough just to tell attack minded CM's to get back when the opposition have the ball. There were times today when Chambers was forced to come out to deal with situations and none of the players ahead of him were slotting in to cover for him. We need a specialist 4 as a matter of urgency.

    As for Erskine, whatever you may think of his ability I don't think you can question his commitment. Even when it was obvious we weren't going to get anything from the game he was doing his best to put himself about and gee up the players around him. He gives a shit and for that alone I think he deserves some respect.
     
  19. dcdulwich

    dcdulwich Well-Known Member

    Nor is he.
     
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  20. Moroccan Sunset

    Moroccan Sunset Well-Known Member

    100% agree re Carew. He's not a defensive midfielder and he can't do what Kargbo does. It's another example of Gavin putting square pegs in round holes - it's always been a flaw.

    Ming should be brought back in immediately, too.
     
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  21. Moroccan Sunset

    Moroccan Sunset Well-Known Member

    Thanks for speaking on my behalf but I am aware of the budget - as are quite a few other fans. An accurate figure has been around for most of the season.
     
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  22. Pthorne

    Pthorne Well-Known Member

    My point really wa I don’t think his own fans shouting that sort of stuff in his 2nd start back at this level are going to help him in the slightest.

    Regardless if it is felt he shouldn’t be starting he doesn’t deserve those sort of comments. If those sort of comments are made outside of a football enviroment they wouldn’t be deemed acceptable.
     
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  23. Moroccan Sunset

    Moroccan Sunset Well-Known Member

    Fair enough. I think it's an understandable source of frustration when people have travelled away, spent hard earned money to watch us play in a massive six-pointer only to see our striker is not even remotely fit.

    Do agree with Poids though: thought he did a lot better than he did against Bath and he was unlucky not to score. I don't think he even strayed offside once.
     
  24. dcdulwich

    dcdulwich Well-Known Member

    Apologies, but some of your utterances in the past have been so wide of the mark that I hope you’ll understand my scepticism on this as well.
     
  25. editor

    editor hiraethified

    I don't doubt his verbal commitment, but physical? He barely ever runs off the ball, he's slow, can barely jump in the air for headers and gets caught out offside because of his reluctance to run back. He was terrible today.
     
  26. B.I.G

    B.I.G Well-Known Member

    Moroccan Sunset

    Budget yes. Clunis no.

    Mr Salas in Peckham was delicious tonight and only spent £20 all day. Bargain.
     
  27. Moroccan Sunset

    Moroccan Sunset Well-Known Member

    I don't know exactly which past comments you're referring to but I personally waterboarded Gavin until he gave me the figure at the start of the season, so I know this one is accurate.

    I wouldn't call it skepticism so much as patronising: you didn't say you doubted whether I knew the figure, you said I didn't know.

    Anyway, this is getting in the way of a good post mortem. Urban's been a hotbed of football debate recently and I don't want to derail that. Let the dissections continue...
     
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  28. RabbleLevi

    RabbleLevi Well-Known Member

    Moroccan Sunset

    Clunis did a ‘Clunis’ today...

    Your still wrong about him...

    Sheriff sounded like a live wire was he any good?
     
  29. B.I.G

    B.I.G Well-Known Member

    This football chat is the worst!

    *You’re
     
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  30. Moroccan Sunset

    Moroccan Sunset Well-Known Member

    He did, indeed, but I've said my piece. However, my main bug with Clunis is that he misses good chances and you've just admitted that he did today, so how am I wrong?

    Look at me. I've bought that hook, line and sinker. What am I like? I get so easily dragged into these things, I'm a fool to myself.

    Thought the Sheriff did alright today, although faded in the second half. Missed a good chance but was constantly on the move and looking for the ball. Better than Tomlin IMO.
     
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