Hamburg Air Raid Shelter visit

Discussion in 'Dulwich Hamlet FC' started by Blitzwalker, May 8, 2018.

  1. Blitzwalker

    Blitzwalker Well-Known Member

    I thought this was worth opening a thread in its own right, even though I have mentioned it elsewhere. As part of the varied programme of events for the Hamburg trip in July, I have organised a group visit on the Saturday morning (14 July) at 11:00 to the Air Raid Shelter Museum at Hamm as per the link at the bottom of this page. Because of the somewhat restricted space in the shelter, groups are limited in size to 30 people (I might be able to squeeze it up slightly), so this will be on a strictly 'first come, first served' basis. So far the following people have expressed their interest to me (I've used forum names where I know them):

    Dulwich Mishi
    Pete Campbell, Alison, Paul and Sam
    Kevin Harrington
    Tim Goddard & Alana
    Pete Dodge
    Pete Lyons

    I know there are others who have mentioned it to me but in my invariably befuddled condition, I may well have forgotten the names - if you're interested in attending this, please just let me know via this thread. I will also post something similar on The Moral Victory FB page.

    I'd anticipate us meeting at around 10:45 at Rauhes Haus U-Bahn Station (lines U2 and U4), which is on Hammer Landstrasse and about 5/10 minutes walk to the shelter. There are around 20-30 steps down (and back up) to the shelter, so if you're not that mobile, or suffer from claustrophobia, then this might not be for you. Once I have a definite list of attendees, I will see everyone who is going at the Friday night match and finalise the details.

    Cost-wise, I propose charging 10 Euros per person for this. I've already covered the cost, so will re-imburse myself and then any surplus we make will be donated to the 12th Man.

    Hamburg had a rough time of it during WW2 and it is somewhat ironic that we will be visiting the city almost on the 75th anniversary of the "Gomorrah" raids from 1943 which devastated the city. It is also relevant to us as two of our war dead on the Roll of Honour served in Bomber Command as aircrew and one of them, Ron Ebsworth, died during a mission to Hamburg in 1941. Doubly relevant as Adolf Jager, after whom Altona's stadium is named, was killed on bomb disposal work in 1944. The museum is a fascinating place, very "anti-war" as you'd imagine but also very pragmatic in its understanding of why Hamburg was bombed in the first place.

    Look forward to seeing a few of you there.

    Stadtteilinitiative Hamm e.V. — The Air-Raid Shelter Museum
     
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  2. Bill Azzi

    Bill Azzi I am not a trademark.

    I've had the good fortune to be able to visit this shelter, it's a very interesting place. If I were able to go on the tour to Hamburg I would definitely sign up for this visit, even though I've been there before.
     
    Last edited: May 9, 2018
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  3. Blitzwalker

    Blitzwalker Well-Known Member

    I’ll be bumping this post occasionally so that it remains visible and allows anyone to book their space(s) on the trip. Apologies to the person who approached me at Leatherhead the other week just after I’d arrived. You wanted to come on this trip and I’ve forgotten who you were! Sorry, just let me know on here and I’ll add your name to the list. FC9645AB-1539-47E9-89EE-9BF6DA91F28B.jpeg
     
  4. Hollis

    Hollis bloody furious

    The Keith Lowe book on it 'Inferno' is a good read. From what I remember it was one of the few times Bomber Command unequivocally achieved its aim, due to a combination of the weather, and (from memory) wooden buildings.
     
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  5. Blitzwalker

    Blitzwalker Well-Known Member

    Yes the Keith Lowe book is excellent as is Martin Middlebrook’s “Battle of Hamburg”. The first three (of four) RAF raids were an unqualified success from their point of view. The use of ‘Window’ (for the first time in action) threw off the night fighters, weeks of dry weather, accurate target marking and bombing attacks pressed home with little or no ‘creep-back’ ensured devastating results. The final raid coincided with a heavy thunderstorm which ensured that very few aircraft reached the target, although by then the real damage had already been done.
     
    Last edited: May 12, 2018
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  6. Al Cunningham

    Al Cunningham Brockley Hamlet

    Steve.

    Just saw this. We spoke at the Kingstonian time and chatted a few times before. (Including Braintree coach) I have 9 interested including me in the tour. Let me know how many you have room for.

    Best wishes

    Alastair
     
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  7. Blitzwalker

    Blitzwalker Well-Known Member

    Hi Alastair. Thanks mate, I remember it was you now - I must be getting old as I’d had a complete mental block. No problem, consider it booked for all 9 of you. That will take us up to around 23/24 people, so still space for others to book.

    Anticipated meeting time/place and cost as at head of this page but I’ll confirm everything with you at the Friday night football.

    Cheers, Steve
     
  8. Al Cunningham

    Al Cunningham Brockley Hamlet

    Steve

    That's great. Many thanks

    Alastair
     
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  9. DonkeyAssessor

    DonkeyAssessor Well-Known Member

    Steve , please add Ken and me to the list. Thanks
     
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  10. Blitzwalker

    Blitzwalker Well-Known Member

    Done!

    We’re up to 26 now, so we still have four spaces left but thanks for your support of this event everyone.
     
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