In the worlds most densely populated areas in the world, with just apartment blocks, every living 10 to room. Of course there will be civilians with hamas militants. Where else can they go!
Hamas: we'll kill Jewish childeren.
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In the worlds most densely populated areas in the world, with just apartment blocks, every living 10 to room. Of course there will be civilians with hamas militants. Where else can they go!
Johnny Canuck3
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Johnny Canuck3
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Did it give you a stiffie?
Johnny Canuck3
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Butcher tactic #2: goad the person into a personal exchange, to deflect from the topic at hand.
Personal exchange, now over.
Personal exchange, now over.
butchersapron
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Is this more disapproval?
It's whatever you want it to be. Fact is you've utterly lost it recently.
butchersapron
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Crack on, let's get back to the subject.
Johnny Canuck3
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So they've been pushing the idea of the 67 borders and right of return..... and firing missiles at Israel at the same time?
FridgeMagnet
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I removed the "evidence" part because it was detracting from the main point, but if you're claiming that that link justifies shooting ambulances you've lost it.
Johnny Canuck3
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Johnny Canuck3
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No, the link shows the use of ambulances by Palestinian terrorists; something that you said there is no evidence of.
twistedAM
Left Of The Dial
Excuse me for interrupting, just saw this reported on ITV News and they said Hamas would kill Israeii children anywhere in the world.
Wonder what the original quote was. Jews or Israelis?
Not that one is right and one is wrong, thinking more of ITV might be diluting the quote.
Wonder what the original quote was. Jews or Israelis?
Not that one is right and one is wrong, thinking more of ITV might be diluting the quote.
Spion
I hear ya
Err, yeah. is there something that doesn't compute in johhny-world?
Johnny Canuck3
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I think you removed it because you knew it was so blatantly and provably wrong.
butchersapron
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FridgeMagnet
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No, I didn't, and that was why I removed the reference, because I suddenly realised that it would be a spur for you to start googling "terrorist ambulance" and post up a load of irrelevant crap. Hey! Terrorists have pretended to be civilians! So civilians are fair game!
Johnny Canuck3
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"Negotiate with us. Let us back in to live amongst you. But in the meantime, we'll launch missiles against your civilians, in the dead of night."
butchersapron
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Johnny Canuck3
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The issue was whether or not there was precedent in the area, for the positioning of weapons etc near civilian facilities, in an effort either to deflect the chance of detection, or to gain propaganda points, when the weapons, and the surrounding civilian facilities, are attacked upon discovery.
Spion
I hear ya
Very carefully worded seeing as the IDF has its facilities in all towns and cities and virtually every building in Israel has arms in it
JimW
支那暗杀团
It was Israel broke the cease-fire:
http://www.3quarksdaily.com/3quarks...the-6-month-ceasefire-in-israelpalestine.html
Spion
I hear ya
Of course you forget the siege and Israeli bombardments of Gaza, in which case taking those into account it might be more like, "We want a ceasefire and to negotiate on the basis of the 67 borders but if you keep starving us and bombing us we'll make sure there's a price to pay"
FridgeMagnet
Administrator
There isn't.
You're going to continue posting your google results aren't you? I'll just state it once and I don't expect it to be addressed: there is no evidence of any sort of actual significant pattern of anyone positioning military targets near civilian ones that would justify attacks on civilian targets. It is now and has always been an excuse for attacking civilians, because they are part of the infrastructure of the society that the aim is to destroy, and/or for psychological impact. I imagine I could go back to the point at which artillery and bombers started to be used and find the same rhetoric.
Spion
I hear ya
Worth quoting:
"On November 12, the [New York Times]’s Jerusalem reporter, Isabel Kershner, wrote: “At least six Palestinian militants were killed in a clash and an Israeli airstrike on Nov. 4 after an Israeli force entered Gaza for the first time in five months."
Therefore, the rockets into Israeli territory after nearly six months of cease-fire followed – rather than preceded – the Israeli invasion into, and the killings of Palestinians inside, the occupied Gaza Strip."
I said in another thread, that Hamas has a right to resist Israel's army. To be fair, the Israelis also have a right to defend their people.
Hamas has no chance against the IDF, they have only killed one Israeli soldier since the ground invasion(at this time of writing). I think we lost 15 troops in Afganistan in December alone.
The best thing Hamas could do, is promise not to fire rockets into Israel, and then the IDF will return to Israel.
Not ideal I know, but fighting and losing is not a great idea either.
Hamas has no chance against the IDF, they have only killed one Israeli soldier since the ground invasion(at this time of writing). I think we lost 15 troops in Afganistan in December alone.
The best thing Hamas could do, is promise not to fire rockets into Israel, and then the IDF will return to Israel.
Not ideal I know, but fighting and losing is not a great idea either.
Bernie Gunther
Fundamentalist Druid
Doesn't matter in JCworld I expect.
I must admit though, I'm interested to see how he'll try to twist the facts to fit his 'Israel is always right and Palestinians are disgusting terrorists who deserve everything they get' narrative.
scott_forester
probably talking shite
Not going to happen is it.
butchersapron
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Any comment on why your fucklwitted OP was wrong?
scott_forester
probably talking shite
What makes you think I'm interested in debating with you?
butchersapron
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Your body language.
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