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moono said:
Might be better just to make the Zionists go home?
They are home. And there they will stay unless and until they are forcibly removed. Given the present disorganization, ignorance, and corruption of Israel's enemies, I expect that won't happen for a long time to come, if ever.
 
moono said:
You paint a grim picture from your entrenchment, M'ears. Unfortunately, your easel has only one leg;
So lets say the Muslim countries achieve even half of what you so smugly imply they are genuinely undertaking, do you really think that democratic, prosperous Muslim states would freely choose to squander it all by attacking Israel?
 
They are home. And there they will stay unless and until they are forcibly removed. Given the present disorganization, ignorance, and corruption of Israel's enemies, I expect that won't happen for a long time to come, if ever.

Nevertheless, it is something to look forward to, isn't it. Christmas in Bethlehem and stuff without a Zionist in sight. Nice one.


Edit; Whoops, nearly forgot. Christmas present for you, yam. Leave your message on the wall.
http://www.openbethlehem.org/
 
Palestinians to get Russian aid


Yo Lavrov.

Happy Easter. everybody.

bethlehem.jpg

Bethlehem, 2005
 
moono said:
Nevertheless, it is something to look forward to, isn't it. Christmas in Bethlehem and stuff without a Zionist in sight. Nice one.


Edit; Whoops, nearly forgot. Christmas present for you, yam. Leave your message on the wall.
http://www.openbethlehem.org/

moono. Zionists won't just disappear after all this is over.
and not all Zionists view Palestinians (Christians/Arabs) as 'enemies'.
 
TL, it really is up to Zionist moderates to make their mark upon the Zionist movement, otherwise people like myself are going to continue to use the term 'Zionist' as an umbrella for something very nasty indeed. It is a political movement after all.
You see that big wall up there ? Zionists built that. I do appreciate though that some Zionists have written a few rude words on it.
 
Belly Laughs...

Tangent: "Mista'Avr'yeem" are not assasins. They function as hard intel conduits. They do not attack nor physically harm anyone.

You need to brush up on your Islamic theology. Wahhabi are Sunna. Sunna and Shia refer to a schism over the caliphate. Wahhabi are a more fundamental Sunna.

"Zionists go home..." Again, you need to do soem studying. Arabs from Arabia, Jews from Judea...hmmmm...

Cemerty: The "democracy" you laud in Iran was one where candidates had to be "approved" by a central committee and voters were heavily encouraged to preserve the status quo.

Tangent: Actually, very few Israelis view any Arab as an enemy. They view certain movemtns as such but Arabs are a vibrant part of the sraeli mosaic. they serve in thge armed forces along with other Israelis and so on. It is the Arabs belonging to and actively supporting the roughly 2 dozen "Palestinian" militias that are the enemies in most Israelis' [including Israeli Arabs] eyes.
 
Zionist umbrella...

Moono: You reserve the right to use the word Zionist as an umbrella for everything you see as vile and nefarious with regard to the region and its people. However, let another person claim that same right with regard to Arabs or "Palestinians" and you sit piss and vinegar. See a bit of hypocrisy maybe? The world is not balc and white. You will never have a clue about the region or its people until you master that axiom.
 
Zionism is as Zionism does, rachamim, and currently Zionism is the ogre of the 21st century. Sharon ushered in the new millenium with a policy of murder and ethnic cleansing. It's going to take decent Israelis a looooong time and a new government before anybody is going to forget what Israel has done for the world.
 
Moono...

Only in your eyes, and sorry but your opinion doesnt count for much in terms of world opinion . Your villification of Zionism is infantile. As I strain to say, the world is NEVER black and white.
 
TAE said:
'the russian bear' ?

People still use that phrase?


Firstly, yes, we still use that phrase. Why not? Russia is still a huge force to be reckoned with. I still wouldn't recommend to any army to march on Moscow. And the way Putin behaves is very very scary and Stalinesce.

Secondly, I didn't mean 'the Russian bear', I meant, the Russians (not Russians') bear much responsibility.
 
rachamim18 said:
Tangent: "Mista'Avr'yeem" are not assasins. They function as hard intel conduits. They do not attack nor physically harm anyone.
Not all Mista'aravim are assassins, no. Some infiltrate peaceful demos, throw stones at the IDF, which gives them an excuse to use tear-gas and plastic salted bullets at the peaceful procession. Others act as spotters and informers, for targeting paramilitary palestinians. Others travel in disguised groups, as assassination squads, knocking on doors, checking names, and 'pow' - if they get the wrong man, there's no criminal redress for murder, since the wrongly assassinated man is classed as 'collatoral damage'.

You need to brush up on your Islamic theology. Wahhabi are Sunna. Sunna and Shia refer to a schism over the caliphate. Wahhabi are a more fundamental Sunna.
YOU need to brush up on yours, obviously. Wahabist are Salafists not Sunni/a/im, who systematically destroy any 'idol' that glorfies any part of Islam or pre-Islam, be it a humble dwelling where Mohammed was offered hospitality, to a pre-Islamic shrine to an ancient Arabian pantheon, they are fundamentalists to the core, whether they be simple adherents or jihadis.
 
moono; Zionism is as Zionism does, rachamim, and currently Zionism is the ogre of the 21st century. Sharon ushered in the new millenium with a policy of murder and ethnic cleansing. It's going to take decent Israelis a looooong time and a new government before anybody is going to forget what Israel has done for the world.

rachamim; Only in your eyes, and sorry but your opinion doesnt count for much in terms of world opinion . Your villification of Zionism is infantile. As I strain to say, the world is NEVER black and white.

Well, let's not look back, where the evidence of Zionist fascism is abundant,let's just watch the events as they unfold and see what the world as a whole thinks of Zionism. I wouldn't want to speak for the whole world. Not before breakfast anyway.


astronorks;
Secondly, I didn't mean 'the Russian bear', I meant, the Russians (not Russians') bear much responsibility.

Thank you for the clarification. It looked like a grizzly error.
 
Well, you go back and look at your first, unprovoked and erroneous attack on me. Then apologise, then I will.
 
Forget it man. If you can't remember the point at which you go out of your way to offend people then I withdraw my offer. Blunder on.
 
astronaut said:
Firstly, yes, we still use that phrase. Why not? Russia is still a huge force to be reckoned with. I still wouldn't recommend to any army to march on Moscow. And the way Putin behaves is very very scary and Stalinesce.

Secondly, I didn't mean 'the Russian bear', I meant, the Russians (not Russians') bear much responsibility.

He was yanking your chain/winding you up/teasing you. :)
 
moono said:
Forget it man. If you can't remember the point at which you go out of your way to offend people then I withdraw my offer. Blunder on.



Perhaps you hold even small grudges well past their use-by date?
 
Please spare me your further attentions. You're no gentleman and your behaviour is becoming foolish.
 
astronaut said:
Firstly, yes, we still use that phrase. Why not? Russia is still a huge force to be reckoned with. I still wouldn't recommend to any army to march on Moscow. And the way Putin behaves is very very scary and Stalinesce.

Secondly, I didn't mean 'the Russian bear', I meant, the Russians (not Russians') bear much responsibility.
Sorry, my fault; I misread your post.

I remember 'the russian bear' as a rather vile german propaganda phrase, similar to 'the jew'.
 
TAE said:
I remember 'the russian bear' as a rather vile german propaganda phrase, similar to 'the jew'.


I don't think it was solely a German propoganda phrase - I think the Russians used it themselves.
 
astronaut said:
I don't think it was solely a German propoganda phrase - I think the Russians used it themselves.
African americans may call themselves 'niggers', but I wouldn't use that phrase myself.
 
The phrase relates to the country, doesn't it, not the people ?

In the hug of 'the bear' one is stuffed, so to speak.
 
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