Gurkhas win court case over immigration.

[free spirit]

about fucking time - this situation has been one of many things that have made me ashamed of this government.

why is it that the courts seem increasingly to be a lot more in tune with what's morally right than our elected politicians.


I really can't see why any government minister couldn't have taken even a quick look at this situation, realised it was blatantly immoral, and sorted it out. Why did they make the gurkha's take this to court to force them to do the right thing. It shows a complete lack of respect from this government IMO.

 

[Dr Jon]

I really can't see why any government minister couldn't have taken even a quick look at this situation, realised it was blatantly immoral, and sorted it out. Why did they make the gurkha's take this to court to force them to do the right thing

Because the country is bankrupt.
Morally and financially.

 

[free spirit]

Because the country is bankrupt.
Morally and financially.

well we could always work out a one in one out* style exchange policy where we send one politician or immigration service bigwig over to live out their retirements in nepal on a pension adjusted to reflect local living costs in exchange for every gurkha coming over here.

*with the one in one out policy being in favour of the gurkhas of course

 

[Dr Jon]

well we could always work out a one in one out* style exchange policy where we send one politician or immigration service bigwig over to live out their retirements in nepal on a pension adjusted to reflect local living costs in exchange for every gurkha coming over here.

*with the one in one out policy being in favour of the gurkhas of course

I don't think the Nepalis would thank us for sending them our toxic waste..

 

[free spirit]

I don't think the Nepalis would thank us for sending them our toxic waste..

yeah, I was thinking it was a bit harsh on the nepalis


maybe we could offer to build them some immigration detention centres (sorry I mean luxury retirement homes) so the Nepalese never have to interact with them, in exchange for the nepalese confiscating their passports as soon as they land in the country.

obviously we'd market it to the politicians and immigration peeps as being a free no questions asked holiday, then the nepalese could legitimatly arrest them for corruption.... fuck I think I'm getting a bit too into this idea

 

[DRINK?]

Let the daft c*nts in; have you seen their lovely hats..We should be justly proud of our UK ninjas or whatever it is they do

 

[free spirit]

Let the daft c*nts in; have you seen their lovely hats..We should be justly proud of our UK ninjas or whatever it is they do

is it time for a 'ninja vs pirate vs gurkha' thread?

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Aldershot?

there is a bit of the shopping area which is fully Nepalese.

about the best bit of Aldershot

Best bit of Aldershot? That's like comparing different terminal sexual infections.







Love the Gurkhas tho. They get english Officers who have to learn not to shout at their men, cos they don't need shouting at and they think it's rude.

 

[Jessiedog]

about fucking time - this situation has been one of many things that have made me ashamed of this government.

why is it that the courts seem increasingly to be a lot more in tune with what's morally right than our elected politicians.


I really can't see why any government minister couldn't have taken even a quick look at this situation, realised it was blatantly immoral, and sorted it out. Why did they make the gurkha's take this to court to force them to do the right thing. It shows a complete lack of respect from this government IMO.

Oh!

And this too, of course.




Woof

 

[scalyboy]

Some good news for a change.

Up the Gurkhas!

(Ooh don't missus)

 

[scifisam]

Bloody good job too. Shame they had to fight for it at all.

 

[Dravinian]

I think Lumely was right when she said that this was an embarassing and shameful stain on the entire country. Of all the people to deny entry to this country these guys should have been at the very bottom of that list.

The sheer amount of immigration over the last ten years we had to deny these people the right to entry....really?

 

[JHE]

I'm glad the Gurkhas have won. Best of luck to them!

I don't think the strange arrangement that is the Gurkha Regiment should continue, though. If Nepalese men are going to be soldiers, they should be soldiers in the Nepalese Army. The British Army should recruit Britons.

Britain owes a debt of honour to the Gurkhas and to Nepal. The Gurkhas should be phased out and the income from Britain that has gone to Nepal, via remittance from the Gurkhas' salaries, should instead go to Nepal in the form of aid (and the sum should probably be increased).

 

[Gingerman]

A good result,anyone who completes their stint in the French Foreign Leigon is automaticially granted French citizenship I believe,the same should go for anyone serving in the Brit army.Saw a docu on the selection course wannnabe Gurkhas had to complete in order to be picked,looked a lot harder than the equvilent one in this country,suppose its because they are much more fitter than their British counterparts.

 

[Dhimmi]

About bloody time, full marks to Joanna Lovely for making the effort to help...

 

[Teaboy]

A good result,anyone who completes their stint in the French Foreign Leigon is automaticially granted French citizenship I believe,the same should go for anyone serving in the Brit army.Saw a docu on the selection course wannnabe Gurkhas had to complete in order to be picked,looked a lot harder than the equvilent one in this country,suppose its because they are much more fitter than their British counterparts.

Yeah but we can't recruit enough, the British army relies heavily on foreign nationals.

I'm very happy that this injustice should be overturned (should because this was only a test case), I'm amazed it was'nt a given that they got citizenship.

 

[ViolentPanda]

They were used historically to put down revolts though. But they're nice brown wrinkly soldiers, so let them stay.

If you look into the history of the British and Indian armies you'll find that non-native troop formations, wherever possible, were used to put down revolts, purely because there was much less chance of them mutinying.

 

[Al Kahul]

I'm glad the Gurkhas have won. Best of luck to them!

I don't think the strange arrangement that is the Gurkha Regiment should continue, though. If Nepalese men are going to be soldiers, they should be soldiers in the Nepalese Army. The British Army should recruit Britons.

Britain owes a debt of honour to the Gurkhas and to Nepal. The Gurkhas should be phased out and the income from Britain that has gone to Nepal, via remittance from the Gurkhas' salaries, should instead go to Nepal in the form of aid (and the sum should probably be increased).

aid - to be wasted by government departments on pointless projects and graft.

No-keep the Ghurkas.

 

[ViolentPanda]

I'm glad the Gurkhas have won. Best of luck to them!

I don't think the strange arrangement that is the Gurkha Regiment should continue, though. If Nepalese men are going to be soldiers, they should be soldiers in the Nepalese Army. The British Army should recruit Britons.

The Gurkha regiments were formed to serve the British and Indian armies.

As for the British army recruiting Britons, about 15% of our current strength are Commonwealth citizens, not "Britons". Nowadays too many Britons have moral objections to military service, or "can't be arsed".

Britain owes a debt of honour to the Gurkhas and to Nepal. The Gurkhas should be phased out and the income from Britain that has gone to Nepal, via remittance from the Gurkhas' salaries, should instead go to Nepal in the form of aid (and the sum should probably be increased).

Even if the British army phases out Gurkhas, the Indian army won't.

 

[ViolentPanda]

A good result,anyone who completes their stint in the French Foreign Leigon is automaticially granted French citizenship I believe,the same should go for anyone serving in the Brit army.Saw a docu on the selection course wannnabe Gurkhas had to complete in order to be picked,looked a lot harder than the equvilent one in this country,suppose its because they are much more fitter than their British counterparts.

At present our Commonwealth recruitment policy actually makes absolutely clear to potential recruits that citizenship isn't on the cards. You can fight and die for us, but don't even think about being entitled to come and live here.

Same old same old from our political masters.

 

[Orang Utan]

If you look into the history of the British and Indian armies you'll find that non-native troop formations, wherever possible, were used to put down revolts, purely because there was much less chance of them mutinying.

The Wiki entry gives me the impression that they were pretty much mercenary troops for the East India company (who first encountered them fighting against them) and then for local revolts like the Boxer rebellion

 

[DotCommunist]

wiki lol

 

[Belushi]

The Wiki entry gives me the impression that they were pretty much mercenary troops for the East India company (who first encountered them fighting against them) and then for local revolts like the Boxer rebellion

They were one of the 'Martial Races' the Victorians were so fond of, we've stopped idealising Pathans etc nowadays but the Gurkhas still get a good press.

 

[Bakunin]

The Gurkha regiments were formed to serve the British and Indian armies.

As for the British army recruiting Britons, about 15% of our current strength are Commonwealth citizens, not "Britons". Nowadays too many Britons have moral objections to military service, or "can't be arsed".

Even if the British army phases out Gurkhas, the Indian army won't.

I shouldn't think the debacles of Iraq and Afghanistan will have done wonders for domestic recruiting, either.

And I doubt very much that the Gurkhas will be phased out, they're simply too good at their job to be disbanded and it is a source of revenue for the Nepalese, like it or not.

At present our Commonwealth recruitment policy actually makes absolutely clear to potential recruits that citizenship isn't on the cards. You can fight and die for us, but don't even think about being entitled to come and live here.

Same old same old from our political masters.

Stinks, doesn't it?

 

[Orang Utan]

wiki lol

 

[pk]

well we could always work out a one in one out* style exchange policy where we send one politician or immigration service bigwig over to live out their retirements in nepal on a pension adjusted to reflect local living costs in exchange for every gurkha coming over here.

*with the one in one out policy being in favour of the gurkhas of course

Now that's a voteworthy idea.

Can we start with that fucking muppet Bozza Johnson?

 

[Zachor]

I think this is fabulous news. It shows up the utter moral vacuuity of New Labour that they are quite happy for home grown freeloaders to ponce off of the collective but try to wheedle out of supporting those who voluntaryily supported us for decades.

 

[weltweit]

Good, glad the Gurkhas won.

 

[treelover]

'As for the British army recruiting Britons, about 15% of our current strength are Commonwealth citizens, not "Britons". Nowadays too many Britons have moral objections to military service, or "can't be arsed".'


Until this new recession bites

 

[ViolentPanda]

The Wiki entry gives me the impression that they were pretty much mercenary troops for the East India company (who first encountered them fighting against them) and then for local revolts like the Boxer rebellion

They were originally mercenaries, but they were rationalised into the British Indian army (and thence, obviously, into the British army and the Indian army come independence).