northernhord
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Hi Brixtonhatter
thanks for your support mate, top notch!
thanks for your support mate, top notch!
Guns of Brixton
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northernhord
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Hiya guinnessdrinker
So there isnt a housing problem in Brixton due to affluent middle class peeps buying houses, if this touches a raw nerve then so be it, it just shows the effects of the disparity of income and mobility regardless of whether I live in London or not, its usually best to say what you think rather than shut up
So there isnt a housing problem in Brixton due to affluent middle class peeps buying houses, if this touches a raw nerve then so be it, it just shows the effects of the disparity of income and mobility regardless of whether I live in London or not, its usually best to say what you think rather than shut up
Crispy
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Happens everywhere - but the nerve is particulalry raw in Brixton because of the strong identity that seems to be eroding. It's a money thing, and there's no force more powerful (at the moment).
PS. White middle class here, and Lakota's a fantastic club, and you can feed me drum and bass till my ears bleed
PS. White middle class here, and Lakota's a fantastic club, and you can feed me drum and bass till my ears bleed
RubberBuccaneer
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This isn't just a Brixton problem - it's countywide .
MArket forces really, people can't afford to buy houses in areas where they grew up. Sad really but unless there's a programme of affordable housing done - it's going to get worse.
If you're on about people moving to an area thinking it's a bit risque, then again I would imagine every city has them
MArket forces really, people can't afford to buy houses in areas where they grew up. Sad really but unless there's a programme of affordable housing done - it's going to get worse.
If you're on about people moving to an area thinking it's a bit risque, then again I would imagine every city has them
northernhord
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hi crispy
Lakota, worra fuckin top club, blue mountain's a good one too and of course ravin on a boat the thekla, drum and bass is fuckin awesome I write my own d+b with dub reggae influences
Lakota, worra fuckin top club, blue mountain's a good one too and of course ravin on a boat the thekla, drum and bass is fuckin awesome I write my own d+b with dub reggae influences
chegrimandi
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some good points well made northern....though as others have said its not just a brixton based phenomenon - its a class thing, nationwide....
specifically for brixton the process seems to be accelerated - hordes of yuppies have invaded brixton in the last 3 or 4 years.....driving prices sky high and forcing locals out of the market. Though suggesting so, is not always met with great joy here.
specifically for brixton the process seems to be accelerated - hordes of yuppies have invaded brixton in the last 3 or 4 years.....driving prices sky high and forcing locals out of the market. Though suggesting so, is not always met with great joy here.
chegrimandi said:shordes of yuppies have invaded brixton in the last 3 or 4 years.....driving prices sky high and forcing locals out of the market. Though suggesting so, is not always met with great joy here.
Erm. Can anyone point to any kind of proof for this remarkable assertion?
In the wider scheme of things there has of course been migration of people in and out of the area, for better and worse. But I've been living in pretty much the same area of central Brixton for 10 years ago now (back & forth for over 30!) and I see absolutely no evidence that the last 3 or 4 years have been particularly rapid. If anything I'd say property price rises have slowed or even dropped in the last 3-4 years.
Locals have always been priced out of the market in the most part. Watching the programme about the riots last night it really struck me how few of the people and families I grew up with ever owned their own properties in Brixton. For most of our families the idea of buying one of those terraces (even the familiar ones on the frontline) was pie in the sky stuff - they often needed major work, new windows, expensive new central heating - and in a run down 'risky' area` with few good schools and a badly 'ghettoised' reputation as well.
In retrospect, if they could have purchased those Zone 2 properties they'd have done beautifully well financially, but ime many of those families opted for safer, more suburban properties out of choice (hence the apparent 'flight' to Streatham, Norbury, Norwood and beyond), not because they were forced out by 'white incomers' or property developers.
tarannau said:
you're quite right about this, and i had this from the horse's mouth (or an estate agents) fairly recently. The recent surge Cheg is suggesting is simply non-existent.
chegrimandi
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Dubversion said:
my sources are irrefutable and absolute.
HB, IS, AK.
tommers
Currently in investor / advisor mode.
what I don't understand is....
if it is getting harder and harder for people to buy somewhere in london, let alone brixton, as house prices go up by a rate far exceeding inflation.
and this pattern is carried over across the country (some of the highest increases in property prices are occurring in the north of england at the moment I think)
and therefore more and more of the population cannot afford to buy property
then who the f**k is buying these houses?
and where did they live before?
if everywhere is gentrifying then where is de-gentrifying? cos they've both got to be going on, in equal measures.
if it is getting harder and harder for people to buy somewhere in london, let alone brixton, as house prices go up by a rate far exceeding inflation.
and this pattern is carried over across the country (some of the highest increases in property prices are occurring in the north of england at the moment I think)
and therefore more and more of the population cannot afford to buy property
then who the f**k is buying these houses?
and where did they live before?
if everywhere is gentrifying then where is de-gentrifying? cos they've both got to be going on, in equal measures.
Yossarian said:
Sadly I think that's particularly true. In many ways the growth of buy-to-let speculators, property developers and second home owners fuels gentrification more than any other factor.
The availability of cheap rented housing stock was one of the reasons why Brixton became such a centre for the West Indian community. The rush to improve and invest in such properties, removing many affordable rented stock, only accelerated the divide between the haves and have nots.
chegrimandi said:my sources are irrefutable and absolute.
HB, IS, AK.
how terribly amusing
chegrimandi
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Dubversion said:
cor - you managed a post without calling someone a cunt!
when did you lose your sense of humour dud?
chegrimandi said:
how about "when did you start being such an unfunny cunt"?
and there, a 'cunt' just for you
Oh come on Cheg. When was the last time you were funny?
Every other post and it's a silly little attempt to stir it up from you. If it's not mentioning 'quaffage' in a suspiciously famiiar fashion (yawn) or calling people po-faced for querying your intentions, then it's the more than slightly predictable route of mentioning the three posters who, for whatever reason, almost certainly caused more controversy and bad feeling on the Brixton forum than anyone else. I've got some time for at least one of them as it happens, but I don't regret their absence from here for one second.
Nice work son. Nothing better to do?
Every other post and it's a silly little attempt to stir it up from you. If it's not mentioning 'quaffage' in a suspiciously famiiar fashion (yawn) or calling people po-faced for querying your intentions, then it's the more than slightly predictable route of mentioning the three posters who, for whatever reason, almost certainly caused more controversy and bad feeling on the Brixton forum than anyone else. I've got some time for at least one of them as it happens, but I don't regret their absence from here for one second.
Nice work son. Nothing better to do?
tarannau said:
probably one of the ever more frequent 'slow days' elsewhere
chegrimandi
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Dubversion said:
I'm amazed the boards are still going to be honest - aftter all weren't they going to be fucked by now my little charmer? as you and kp confidently predicted? They're doing very well cheers. However both TTG and libcom are down at the moment.
So I thought I'd take this opportunity to reacquaint myself with urban.
Is that ok sir?
chegrimandi
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tarannau said:
oh. I thought they did a good job of questioning received opinion and added a great deal to the Brixton forum. Shows how history can be reworked eh?!
i'll tidy that up for you..
and then probably put you on ignore
chegrimandi said:
and then probably put you on ignore
chegrimandi said:
or interpreted differently. but then you were never very good at accepting that perhaps your view wasn't the only one, eh?
chegrimandi
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Dubversion said:
you have your view of things - I have mine. I however can still laugh about things. You - evidently can't.
anyway ******* gang is back up now - cheerie bye smiler.
Ho hum.
i'm sure people will be heartened to learn you only pop over to cause some trouble on Urban when the other site is down..
chegrimandi
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Dubversion said:
'cause some trouble - cause some trouble'
I suggest you get things in perspective dub. Many horrible things happen in the real world. I would suggest to you that me being on urban for an hour isn't really causing trouble. Maybe take a break from the computer eh? Get a bit of perspective like.
chegrimandi said:
back already? ah, that's right, it's still down isn't it..
