Reno
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What, you don't think a more-of-the-same sequel to a film which ripped off Romero's zombie classics was groundbreaking ?
Ground breaking films
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What, you don't think a more-of-the-same sequel to a film which ripped off Romero's zombie classics was groundbreaking ?
stdPikachu
Plughole in bathtub curve
you jest
Nonsense, it's a brilliantly straight-faced send-up of the original, I was laughing from beginning to end.
Think I like the way Rutger Hauer put it most - "the future is old". I watched the final cut t'other day and I stil don't think I've seen a film that seems to have such timeless design. Personally, I think it'd the progenitor behing most of the modern rash of "dark" sci fi (there was plenty of paranoid sci fi in the 50's and early 60's but it seemed to die out after that). Identity crisis had probably been done a hundred times before but I've never seen a film beofre blade runner that was so subtle about it.
As you may have guessed, it's one of my favourite films of all time. I'm a sucker for Dick's work, a great deal of which revolves around our perceptions of our own reality (BR, Total Recall, Scanner Darkly) which mirrored his own, somewhat fractured and drug addled, mind.
obviously).dream_girl
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I wish I found it funny - no - just tedious.
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
Its difficult to say how much I disagree with the above statement. Crouching Tiger is hugely overrated, there have been far better martial arts films (to say nothing of far better Chinese/HK films of other genres) before and since, it was relatively generic from a Chinese perspective, and its "reinventing of itself" did not to any real degree open up a larger audience, at least in the West (look at the delays in having Hero (a far better film) released, for instance).
The Motorcycle Diaries was the film that instantly turned me from an apolitical capitalist to a misanthropic lefty.
terrythomas
An absolute shower
A great film. Why do you think it was ground breaking?
Colour of Pomegranates is the weirdest film I have ever seen, by a very long distance.
bluestreak
HomosexualityIsStalin’sAtomBombtoDestroyAmerica
i've never actually seen that. must get round to it sometime.
CharlieAddict
nekomimi rocks!!!
excellent film.
Paulie Tandoori
shut it you egg!
the wizard of oz was pretty groundbreaking imo, a truly wonderful film, that had so many good things in it.
As i said earlier in the thread, I agree 100%. Endlessly copied.
dream_girl
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Being John Malkavich
That is one film that I never got tired of watching. Must have seen it about 10 times now.
I thought the first Nightmare on Elm Street was not exactly groundbreaking, but in terms of slash/horror films, the idea that it could happen when you fell asleep was really intriguing to me at the time, as a full-on horror film lover
Yes.
This was another film I have watched repeatedly. I absolutely LOVED everything about it. Made the experience even better when my daughter got heavily into it, and we could discuss it. Although it did take me about 6 months to convince her it wasn't real. She found the website and book to back it up
I guess the context I see it in (being born after it was made) doesn't make me the best judge in terms of its innovation, but I'd always read it as the daddy of all straight-faced comedies. Is it inaccurate to see it as such?
I think you are wrong. It ushered in the summer blockbuster. Jaws was released in June (which may have been early at the time) but that was not what it was groundbreaking for.
Return of the Jedi was the first big Memorial Day weekend film.(post Jaws)
The Mummy was the film that pushed the summer back to early May.
The fact that Shoe Shine, an Italian language film, won an honorary Oscar in 1947 suggests that the English-speaking world knew that "non-English cinema could cut it at the very highest level" before the release of Seven Samurai in 1954.
After picking holes in other's suggestions, I thought I would say that this does not seem a bad list.Not entirely convinced that Chaplin's shorts were groundbreaking, nor Clockwork Orange nor Four Eyed Monsters.May post my own opinions when sober.
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
How many people have heard of Shoe Shine, though?
skyscraper101
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I put A Clockwork Orange in there for a few reasons. It's far from my favorite film I should add - but as the focus is on 'groundbreaking' I'd say this broke ground in a few unique ways. Firstly the wider social commentary that the film inspired was unparalleled and still to this day evokes comment and reference in light of crime and youth. Secondly the censorship issue, it was rated X in America and was was of the first to be so. In the UK it was banned for 27 years and achieved a cult status because of it which only fed into the notoriety of the film which ultimately ensured a successful re-release. Thirdly, the use of the soundtrack - predominantly a Moog synthesizer. I think it was pretty unique for its time to soundtrack the film in a particularly stylised way that it did and it has been inspirational to cinema as a result.
Four Eyed Monsters was my wild card. Again, its far far from being one of my favorite films but this is truly a film set in the reality of 2007, the age of now - the web savvy twenty somthings and the 'myspace generation' for want of a better description. From its semi-fictitious storyline to its conception as a film and process in getting recognition when no major producer will back it is a story in itself but the way two people drove worldwide interest in the film - much of it online - is something I haven't seen before. It's an indie film down to the last and it's one of the few films where watching the DVD extras about making the film (which are also the podcasts and myspace videos) is more intriguing than the film itself and it's the real characters and the reality of two people trying to make a film successful against all the odds (money, representation, business advice, logistics etc) that makes this film groundbreaking in its method.
All just my opinon of course.
I'm not sure how relevant that is. I was just pointing out that other non-English language films had been recognised as very good films in the English-speaking world prior to Seven Samurai and Shoe-Shine was the first "foreign" film that I could see that had won an honorary Oscar to prove the point.
Others since then to be honored before Seven Samurai was released were:
Monsieur Vincent
The Bicycle Thief
The Walls of Malapaga
Rashomon
Forbidden Games
Gate of Hell
Heard of some of those? Even Kurosawa was recognised by the Academy before the release of Seven Samurai.
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