The39thStep
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Smart move by the BNP to stand on a troops out platform.Should be the biggest anti war vote in th election
Griffin to stand as Mp
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Rod Sleeves
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And if Griffin chooses two main negative issues to campaign on that will be one of them.
newbie
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B&D has a reputation for being a rightwing sort of place, so maybe Hodge voted to reflect the views of her base?
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Why has her vote dropped election after election after doing the above then? It's almost halved in that period.
Yes he can and the UAF will give him all the publicity he needs. Dont deal with the problems that have lead to the small rise of the nazi's ,just shout nazi scum of our streets.
Until we have a left wing etc who are to deal with the community at a grass roots level ,the bnp will get bigger.
Rod Sleeves
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I don't know, I was just struck by the assumption that her base had necessarily to be anti war, pro civil liberties and so on.
Not that those are a litmus for left/right anyway.
# Voted moderately against introducing ID cards. votes, speeches
# Voted moderately against introducing foundation hospitals. votes, speeches
# Voted strongly against introducing student top-up fees. votes, speeches
# Voted strongly against Labour's anti-terrorism laws. votes, speeches
# Voted moderately against the Iraq war. votes, speeches
# Voted very strongly for an investigation into the Iraq war. votes, speeches
# Voted very strongly for replacing Trident.
Ken Clarke, Shadow Secretary of State for Business
I wonder how Griffin MP would have voted?
Not that those are a litmus for left/right anyway.
# Voted moderately against introducing ID cards. votes, speeches
# Voted moderately against introducing foundation hospitals. votes, speeches
# Voted strongly against introducing student top-up fees. votes, speeches
# Voted strongly against Labour's anti-terrorism laws. votes, speeches
# Voted moderately against the Iraq war. votes, speeches
# Voted very strongly for an investigation into the Iraq war. votes, speeches
# Voted very strongly for replacing Trident.
Ken Clarke, Shadow Secretary of State for Business
I wonder how Griffin MP would have voted?
Also, confirmed BNP fighting about 200 seats at the GE. Some seats will be self evidently where they have doen well in the past, as a flavour of the "new" areas they are fighting in 2010, I have Durham North, Aberdeen South, Workington and Carshalton and Wallington as already announced
he's 'barking' alright!
Or more like she's a despicable new Labour toady. No wonder the BNP do well there with THAT as opposition!
bring the boys home and if We get in we'll use em to drag darkies out of their houses and shove em on boats
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
That would be a near doubling of candiates - and potentially allow them two election broacasts this time round.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Against ID cards
Against Foundation hospitals and the creeping NHS privatisation
Against student tuition fees
Against anti-terrorism laws
Against Iraq war
For Iraq War investigation
For Trident (reading between the lines anyway)
That's going by their last GE manifesto anyway.
and this is whats worrying, a raving nazi is starting to sound better than a LABOUR politician...
newbie
undisambiguated
Which puts him more or less in the same place* as Clarke and apparently somewhat to the 'left' of Hodge, yet she, and the government she so loyally serves, have been re-elected time and again. Have her views made her noticeably unpopular amongst her base in her constituency?
*On those issues, obv, which don't include the elephant on the sofa. No election Griffin is involved in will be decided on tuition fees or Trident.
el-ahrairah
forward communism, forward gerbils!
JHE makes my eyes bleed.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Well, as i said her vote has dropped by 8000 since 1997. Whilst the BNP has rose by 4000.
King Biscuit Time
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I'm surprised by this to be honest. I don't think he has much of a chance of winning, and I wouldn't have thought he'd want to sully his recent electoral success with a likely electoral failure.
And it's a bit of a red herring to say that the people agree with a lot of the BNP's policies. People do. I agree with a lot of them, but that's because on all issues other than those concerning immigration or race, they just take the most popular line.
The bottom line is still how distasteful people find their flagship policies on race and immigration. They could promise renationalisation of the railways, a 70p tax rate for those earning more than £100,000, and free fish and chips for the whole nation on a Friday, but I still wouldn't vote for them, because they think that British = White.
And it's a bit of a red herring to say that the people agree with a lot of the BNP's policies. People do. I agree with a lot of them, but that's because on all issues other than those concerning immigration or race, they just take the most popular line.
The bottom line is still how distasteful people find their flagship policies on race and immigration. They could promise renationalisation of the railways, a 70p tax rate for those earning more than £100,000, and free fish and chips for the whole nation on a Friday, but I still wouldn't vote for them, because they think that British = White.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
I don't understand why people are suprised - he always stands where he feels there's the best chance of him winning a seat (it's a total non-story in that sense). There's no risk involved and he's likely to get a decent enough vote to make the party look a bit more respectable in terms of parilamentary elections. He be mad not to.
Rod Sleeves
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A small party coming a very close second in a high profile constituency, will not be seen as an electoral failure.
likesfish
You can't park here sir
hodge not well liked and a lot of people hate the goverment.
So depends how much people are pissed off
If you really want to piss on the elite's chips do you vote for a leftie who will burble on about palenstine and lets not be beastly to muslims
Or do you go nuclear and vote for a foaming at the mouth nutter
BNP are never going to be a real political force in the UK but I can see Griffin propping up the bar in the house of commons
Not actually sure if that would be a bad thing would definitly be a shock to the political class
So depends how much people are pissed off
If you really want to piss on the elite's chips do you vote for a leftie who will burble on about palenstine and lets not be beastly to muslims
Or do you go nuclear and vote for a foaming at the mouth nutter
BNP are never going to be a real political force in the UK but I can see Griffin propping up the bar in the house of commons
Not actually sure if that would be a bad thing would definitly be a shock to the political class
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
He wouldn't - not unless they've changed the rules relatively recently. The votes in the NW are nowhere near as hardened and dependable as the B&D area is proving to be. Also, he wants to put Barnbrook in his place.
Rod Sleeves
New Member
No he wouldn't.
The reverend Ian Paisley was MP, MEP, and MLA all at the same time, as I think was John Hume for that matter.
As it happens he may stand down from the European Parliament, I suppose it would depend who was available from the list to take over - it would have to be an unambitious loyalist.
King Biscuit Time
Well-Known Member
I suppose this is the point. The people who voted BNP in the NW were mainly either BNP hardcore who won't care what Griffin gets up to, or the disenfranchised voters who cast a 'punishment' vote, who don't actually look to Griffin as their man in Strasbourg. So no-one will give a hoot if he won't have to go back to the NW with his tail between his legs.
The rules which allowed this were changed this year for all new MEPs
Number 2 on the NW list is Martin Wingfield- who is, I would say, critically loyal to Griffin and relatively Liberal and Populist
The Black Hand
Unclean
I think that's what happened on Question Time, a collective popular front to SHIT on Griffin
This is the mood of the country to tap
I have a feeling it will be over 200. The only specific I have is 23 in Scotland, which is their weakest area in electoral terms, other than Glasgow, so would expect most Labour seats in the North of England to be fought
I think I'm the only one that would love him to stand.
I just know he will come out with a serious pile of bullshit and get grilled like a pig in TV interviews showing himself up for the total cunt he is.
The guy just can't help himself and seeing the real bastard that is Nick (Adolf wonnabe) griffin would be a nice thing.
I just know he will come out with a serious pile of bullshit and get grilled like a pig in TV interviews showing himself up for the total cunt he is.
The guy just can't help himself and seeing the real bastard that is Nick (Adolf wonnabe) griffin would be a nice thing.
The Black Hand
Unclean
I think I'm the only one that would love him to stand.
I just know he will come out with a serious pile of bullshit and get grilled like a pig in TV interviews showing himself up for the total cunt he is.
The guy just can't help himself and seeing the real bastard that is Nick (Adolf wonnabe) griffin would be a nice thing.
I hope they have just stretched themselves to far, and the London crowd can mobilise to shit on Griffin in public
If there's anywhere where parts of the public may lynch/stab Griffin it is here, lets hope so A slogan of 'Turn the Knife Crime on Griffin' maybe good... irresponsible too, funny even, and popular perhaps. If there is a budding graphic designer out there who wants to do it I want a copy
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