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Griffin on Question Time......what question would you ask?

Yes, but it's still the exact same format. Questions to the panel, each answer in turn, few commnets from the floor, panelists respond. Dimbleby is not going to let anything different happen. It's not an hour with Nick Griffin.

Lot’s of questions are clearly aimed mainly at one particular panellist tho.

I’d have thought any question on how to ‘save’ the economy would leave him floundering a bit. Narrow economic nationalism isn’t really a convincing argument.
 
2 rottweilers at home and Martin Reynolds out and about
I was imagining something more along these lines:

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Lot’s of questions are clearly aimed mainly at one particular panellist tho.

I’d have thought any question on how to ‘save’ the economy would leave him floundering a bit. Narrow economic nationalism isn’t really a convincing argument.
bad choice!

qoute

"Globalisation has caused the export of jobs and industries to the Far East, and has brought ruin and unemployment to British industries and the communities who depend on them. Accordingly, the BNP calls for the selective exclusion of foreign-made goods from British markets and the reduction of foreign imports. We will ensure that our manufactured goods are, wherever possible, produced in British factories, employing British workers. When this is done, unemployment in this country will be brought to an end and secure, well-paid employment will flourish.

We further believe that British industry, commerce, land and other economic and natural assets belong in the final analysis to the British nation and people. To that end the BNP will restore our economy and land to British ownership and will take active steps to break up the socially, economically and politically damaging monopolies now being established by the supermarket giants.

Fully cognisant of the reality that economic growth is driven primarily by true free enterprise, a BNP government will seek to give British workers a stake in the success and prosperity of the enterprises whose profits their labour creates. Such schemes are the only guarantee of workers being motivated to ensure the success of their employers.

- The renationalisation of monopoly utilities and services, compensating only individual investors and pension funds. Privatising monopolies does not benefit either the consumer or the country. All that happens is the ‘family silver’ is sold off and monopoly utilities and services are asset-stripped, often by foreign competitors.

The economy should be managed for the benefit of the nation. The other parties are enslaved to laissez-faire globalism, which means that British workers must compete against those in China and India who work for as little as a pound a day..... " etc etc

i doubt this will lose them any votes
 
it's all to do with the lingo y'see. 'Roots' n' that...

ps might be wrong, but apparently his children are bi-lingual (english/ welsh)

Confirmed, and do the voice overs for any welsh langauge broadcasts in the run up to elections there
 
bad choice!

qoute

"Globalisation has caused the export of jobs and industries to the Far East, and has brought ruin and unemployment to British industries and the communities who depend on them. Accordingly, the BNP calls for the selective exclusion of foreign-made goods from British markets and the reduction of foreign imports. We will ensure that our manufactured goods are, wherever possible, produced in British factories, employing British workers. When this is done, unemployment in this country will be brought to an end and secure, well-paid employment will flourish.

We further believe that British industry, commerce, land and other economic and natural assets belong in the final analysis to the British nation and people. To that end the BNP will restore our economy and land to British ownership and will take active steps to break up the socially, economically and politically damaging monopolies now being established by the supermarket giants.

Fully cognisant of the reality that economic growth is driven primarily by true free enterprise, a BNP government will seek to give British workers a stake in the success and prosperity of the enterprises whose profits their labour creates. Such schemes are the only guarantee of workers being motivated to ensure the success of their employers.

- The renationalisation of monopoly utilities and services, compensating only individual investors and pension funds. Privatising monopolies does not benefit either the consumer or the country. All that happens is the ‘family silver’ is sold off and monopoly utilities and services are asset-stripped, often by foreign competitors.

The economy should be managed for the benefit of the nation. The other parties are enslaved to laissez-faire globalism, which means that British workers must compete against those in China and India who work for as little as a pound a day..... " etc etc

i doubt this will lose them any votes

Apparantly according to some posters people only vote BNP if they live next door to a Paki
 
hmmm...other than the nationalisation bit, it's utterly devoid of meaning, but it probably would make a decent sound bite

indeed .. but that is their skill .. soundbites ( meaning or meaningless, honest or not, realistic or not ) .. it is the difficulty of dealing with them on what always amount to their own terms and why i kinda think we need to set our own agenda

i'd like to ask something like "how much are MI5 paying a oxbridge toff scumbag like you to divide the w/c with your lying divisive bullshit so the bosses can carry on milking the country, you fucking scumbag" but i'm not sure i'd get pass the BBC

but they have won already .. and the picket will just make it worse .. everyone i know is looking forward to it! car crash stuff
 
I’d have thought any question on how to ‘save’ the economy would leave him floundering a bit. Narrow economic nationalism isn’t really a convincing argument.



It would have everybody floundering, however, not least the left.
 
indeed .. but that is their skill .. soundbites ( meaning or meaningless, honest or not, realistic or not ) .. it is the difficulty of dealing with them on what always amount to their own terms and why i kinda think we need to set our own agenda

i'd like to ask something like "how much are MI5 paying a oxbridge toff scumbag like you to divide the w/c with your lying divisive bullshit so the bosses can carry on milking the country, you fucking scumbag" but i'm not sure i'd get pass the BBC

but they have won already .. and the picket will just make it worse .. everyone i know is looking forward to it! car crash stuff


I've yet to hear anybody mention it. I think, by and large, people are pretty much unaware of, or indifferent to, the fact that Griffin's appearing on the show. He will convince those who want to be convinced and maybe perform in a reasonable enough manner to neutralise a lot of moderate hostility.

The trouble with mentioning possible MI5 connections is that outside the far left and far right hardly anybody believes that the state seeks to control or manipulate 'radicals'. Griffin would laugh at the suggestion and so would the watching nation.
 
Lot’s of questions are clearly aimed mainly at one particular panellist tho.

I’d have thought any question on how to ‘save’ the economy would leave him floundering a bit. Narrow economic nationalism isn’t really a convincing argument.

Problem is that with capitalism going belly up, economic nationalism is on the face of it a credible alternative to capitalism-especially with the trade defecit as is is. If it is kept to the level of "rebuild our industries/ ban goods we can make ourselves/ nationalise the banks/ BJ4BW" in the context of a 2 minuite answer, it is superfically attractive-especially with 3 panelists espousing globalisation as the solution
 
:)

Always been my gut suspicion as well.

Not mine. I think Griffin has progressed the BNP far too much for a spook- if he was once he would have kept it at low teens councillor level. He has made tactical errors,but on the whole has progressed the BNP organically over the past few years
 
but they have won already .. and the picket will just make it worse .. everyone i know is looking forward to it! car crash stuff

the picket will either be hugely successful, a peaceful mass blocade of the BBC and QT being cancelled, or audience members getting battered and abysmal publicity

as to them winning, no. i think the arguement for No Platform has been strengthened
 
Not mine. I think Griffin has progressed the BNP far too much for a spook- if he was once he would have kept it at low teens councillor level. He has made tactical errors,but on the whole has progressed the BNP organically over the past few years

Depends.

I think that the rise in electoral support for a far right political party must have been quite predictable for all sorts of reasons not least the fact that certain segments of this countrys population have not benefited from multiculturalism.

So therefore it would make sense, at least in my eyes, for the security services to want to have people involved with it not least of all to enable them to spot people on the way up through the ranks who might be dangerous.

And as you say Griffin has made some real tactical errors and promoted some real jokers along with causing rather a lot of dissent within the ranks of the far-right.

I accept that its not possible to back this up with facts but the whole idea of running a disruption operation from within its leadership ranks is not beyond the realms of possibility and whilst the BNP has enjoyed some electoral success its possible that somebody else might have been able to make it a lot more.

Maybe I have read to many cheap thrillers and aspire to write them myself so I accept that this might seem unlikely but I cannot help but think that something is not right about it all.
 
the picket will either be hugely successful, a peaceful mass blocade of the BBC and QT being cancelled, or audience members getting battered and abysmal publicity

Jim this is madness. This is real phantasy stuff. There is going to be no storming of the QT studio.
 
Not mine. I think Griffin has progressed the BNP far too much for a spook- if he was once he would have kept it at low teens councillor level. He has made tactical errors,but on the whole has progressed the BNP organically over the past few years
don't follow your argument jim .. the bnp serves a great function for the state surely
 
the picket will either be hugely successful, a peaceful mass blocade of the BBC and QT being cancelled, or audience members getting battered and abysmal publicity

as to them winning, no. i think the arguement for No Platform has been strengthened
ditto BA jim .. whatever happens NG has added several hundred thousand votes .. no platform only impresses a minority on the left .. most people think it is wrong whether the support bnp or not
 
no platform only impresses a minority on the left .. most people think it is wrong whether the support bnp or not

skiping over the fact that JP's claims are utterly laughable, the point of No Platform was never to 'impress people', it was to stop the spread of fascism. If the BBC workers could impose a no platform policy, that would be magnificent. Sadly, tho, it has virtually no chance of happening.
 
skiping over the fact that JP's claims are utterly laughable, the point of No Platform was never to 'impress people', it was to stop the spread of fascism. If the BBC workers could impose a no platform policy, that would be magnificent. Sadly, tho, it has virtually no chance of happening.

Surely by that yardstick "no platform" has failed massively?
 
My list:

1. Why has the BNP consistently (Stoke, Burnley Pendle) voted for above-inflation increases in council taxation, despite its claims against council tax increases and property-based council tax in general?

2. Why did Broxbourne BNP vote to block free bus passes for pensioners against their pledge that "pensioners should get free bus passes"?
3. Why did Halifax BNP councillors in abstain from voting to block the closure of a primary school in Mixenden despite election literature promising to defend all primary schools in the area.

4. Why did BNP in Kirklees agree to council service cuts in Sep 2009 declaring "a lot of the silly posts can disappear. I've always advocated that you get rid of 25% of council staff and no-one would notice. We won't be able to guarantee early retirement and gold-plated pensions."?

5. You, Griffin, have expelled certain BNP members for their political actions (including ex-Conservative BNP councillor Geoff Wallace in Halifax for supporting greenbelt housing) but not those who have implemented these above actions which harm the majority whose interests you claim to further. Why is there this discrepancy?

6. Why did you oppose the firefighters' strike of 2002-2003, asserting that firefighters should not have the right to withdraw their labour to renegotiate terms and conditions of work? You declared firefighters "must be placed on the same level as military personnel and police officers and.....forego their ambiguous position of using strike action". Do you still agree with it?

7. Why did Stoke BNP exonerate chief executive Wayne Nutbeen for closing (in 2005) Royal Doulton's last factories. Nutbeen's explanation was the "company isn't owned by Stoke-on-Trent. It is owned by the shareholders. The board has to ensure it does right by them".

8. Why has the BNP agreed to budgets (2004, 2005, 2007) that cut social spending including Citizen's Advice Bureaus, old people's services?

9. Which aspects of the "national good" in "Oriental countries" would you emulate in Britain first -- a 2000% increase in work-related suicides, mass dismissals of workers for attending anti-government meetings or homeless nomad families working in low-wage sectors?

Your manifesto (2009) claimed "Oriental countries such as Japan, South Korea and Singapore have managed their economies to combine private enterprise competition with the national good, and these are the models the BNP would emulate."
 
Surely by that yardstick "no platform" has failed massively?

No, not at all. The tactic of 'No Platform' was enforced by mi.litant anti-fascism in the 70's/80's and 90's when the BNP/NF/C18 etc were driven off the streets on a regular basis. As a result Griffin made if clear that their strategy had to change. Therir move from street confrontations to electoral work doesn't refute No Platform because that move was because of No Platform.
 
who is your greatest political hero?

The answer will be Winston Churchill:

Churchill in 1954 said:
"...further step wd. be immigrn. control over admn. of [British subjects] to UK.
Wd. have to admit in Parlt. tht. purpose of legn. was to control [admission] of coloured.
There is a case on merits for excludg. riff-raff.
But politically it wd. be represented & discussed on basis of a colour limitation.
That wd. offend the floating vote viz., the old Liberals.
We shd. be reversing age-long tradn. tht. B. [subjects] have right of entry to mother-country of Empire. We shd. offend Liberals, also sentimentalists."

Churchill wanted to introduce Keep Britain White as the Conservative slogan in 1955.*according to Peter Henessy's research and interviewing.*
 
You're all aware that on QT a question is asked of the panel right? Not individual members. The best you'll get is a follow up from the floor which would not be allowe to be another full question unrelated to the ongoing discussion.

I forgot about this.
Griffin will overcome his competition on every answer. He will win when contrasted to Greer, Warsi, Straw's answers.
 
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