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pbman said:
He wasn't a draft dogger, that low rent commie propganda. :rolleyes:

http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a5_004.html

It's all "low rent commie propaganda" to you - isn't it? Pull your head out of your arse, you Nazi. ;) John Wayne was fond of spouting off about the military, national security but never served in the armed forces. He dodged the draft in WWII while others served. He made some real stinkers like the films already mentioned. If he hadn't died, he would have been president instead of Reagan. I'll bet that would have pleased you. But then when it comes to presidents you would rather have a persona in office than a real person.
 
pbman said:
Pilgrim said:
I didn't say that, and you know it.

I just don't like the idea of someone making a number of movies extolling the virtues of going to war, while having no intention of risking a bullet themselves.

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WTF do you know about his intentions?
quite a lot, bearing in mind he died a long, long way after he became too old for military service.
Bit like you letting yourself get a tad too past it to volunteer, chickenhawk.
Take your low rent commie propganda, and stick it.
oh dear, leadhead's talking shit again. John Wayne - like you - spouts balls about the wonders of wars you've never ever once got withina thousand miles of.
ooh dear, leadhead lookie stoopid again.
 
Originally Posted by pbman
He wasn't a draft dogger,

Bloody hell a lot of U75ers would volunteer for that, they would not need conscripting.
 
RE: John Wayne Was a Hero (#23705)
by wolf_meister on November 19, 2003 at 1:24 AM
I agree with Kevin Cook. John Wayne was a draft dodger. For one thing, why didn't he join the Navy in 1926? Oh he wanted to go into the Navy IF he could get into Annapolis. He couldn't, so he went on to college with a football scholarship. If he were such a self-sacrificing American, why didn't he join the Navy as an enlisted man? Oh I guess he didn't want to join the deck-swabbing navy. There are so many reasons you hear why "the Duke" never went into the service - he had kids, an ear infection, a bad knee, etc. Isn't it funny that the American people who idolize this guy so much as the tough American male are so willing to believe that he was also 4-F. Give me a break. Kevin Cook mentioned some Hollywood heroes - here are some others - Audie Murphy (most decorated WW2 soldier - 5'5" tall - he's no John Wayne) Neville Brand (4th most decortaed), Lee Marvin, Jack Palance, Jason Robards Jr, etc. It is always stated that John Wayne NEVER wanted to discuss why he didn't serve and it bothered him to do so. So what happened? His admirers made up all kinds of bullsh*t and this allowed Wayne to become a "Monday morning patiot". Then all that crap about his begging Washington DC to let him in the service during WW2. Hey I am a proud American and it upsets me that this guy is supposed to represent the USA. It is time the truth be told. Why don't you folks read about the other people I mentioned and then see John Wayne for the phony he is. If no one else, read about Audie Murphy - a REAL hero who fought in a REAL war.

http://hnn.us/readcomment.php?id=10442


I dunno: would this guy dodge the draft?

http://www.surfnetinc.com/chuck/wilsey2.jpg
 
Andy the Don said:
British officer when asked what he thought of the US special forces..

"well there appears to be rather a lot of them..."

When that boat patrol was captured by the Iranians last year, everyone in HQ MND(SE) was flapping and trying to work out what was going to happen next and blah blah blah. One of the American liason officers offered the SEALs for any rescue mission that may be planned, to which the Royal Navy liason officer replied "why? so they can fuck another op up?"

Never seen a Yank shut up and leave so quickly :D
 
Interesting how this thread has jumped around.
It seems again that anything that disproves what everyone wants to believe gets forgotten again.
Johne Wayne Explained in detail what the situation was with his military/ carreer situation, During the War. It is on tape some where.
John Ford,.... John Waynes friend and mentor had told him that he wanted him to stay a civilian. Ford knew that for the war effort, Waynes best place was in front of a camera.
Wayne followed the instructions of his friend and mentor.
As the war progressed the recruiting tempo in hollywood became brisk.
Wayne still wanted to join but it was counciled by Ford to stay put.
John Wayne served in the American War effort as a Actor and USO contributing performer
 
Rentonite said:
John Wayne served in the American War effort as a Actor and USO contributing performer

they must have been quaking in their movie theaters right across berlin and tokio ;)
 
Rentonite said:
John Wayne served in the American War effort as a Actor and USO contributing performer

I hear the actors took heavy casualties at Midway and the Solomon Islands.


Hold on, nope. That was real soldiers, not some lanky coward.
 
ViolentPanda said:
I hear the actors took heavy casualties at Midway and the Solomon Islands.


Hold on, nope. That was real soldiers, not some lanky coward.

Yes but he did raise the flag on the sands of Iwo Jima..

iwo_jima.jpg
 
nino_savatte said:
In fact, I wear a Basque beret: the kind you never see Frenchmen wearing anymore. :p

Different kettle of fish, my learned friend. The fine, independent Basque beret should not be confused with lesser types.

Hell, the yanks even faked, er re-enacted that classic photo...
 
Poi E said:
Different kettle of fish, my learned friend. The fine, independent Basque beret should not be confused with lesser types.

Hell, the yanks even faked, er re-enacted that classic photo...

I tell you what, I don't think much of those Yank berets...they're a little too...er, pretentious...too stiff...obviously faked.
 
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