Graphic Design software for beginners..

[dada]

illustrator is great. i love illustrator, use it lot to draw, especially i like my work to be flexible in size.

agree with what firky said, learn to draw by hand before using a machine.

and idea should always comes first.

i'm not very impressed with 'design' using zillions of photoshop filters.

 

[GarfieldLeChat]

Pen and pencil before you move onto anything. Its not the ability to use the software that makes a designer its the ability to create something original. It must not purely look cool it must have some function. Content with out clutter and all that... white spaces.

bad workman blames his tools cos only a bad workman would have bad tools...

 

[Firky]

this thread is teh fuhnni specially that rabbit thing ROFL wtf??!!

Think its glowing edges or solarise filters

 

[Firky]

illustrator is great. i love illustrator, use it lot to draw, especially i like my work to be flexible in size.

agree with what firky said, learn to draw by hand before using a machine.

and idea should always comes first.

i'm not very impressed with 'design' using zillions of photoshop filters.

I don't know. Lens flare can add a certain bit of class to an otherwise dull BID

 

[free spirit]

<sniff> hmmm great i'm sure that's wonderful, no vector, no designer, no intrested. potatoe shop is good for web and phototouch up sure you CAN use it for other things but then i CAN use a tank as a shopping trolly, i just might get better results and be more competant at the task of shopping if i used the trolly designed for the purpose.</sniff>

quite possibly true, but then the guy's saying he's got photoshop and needs to knock up one design, you're saying he needs to get a vector based package to do this, I'm just pointing out that it is actually perfectly possible to knock up a decent and printable design using photoshop if you've got a decent image / idea to work with.

OK so you're probably not gonna win design awards with it, or be able to scale from a6 to 6 sheet billboard but being as he's starting from scratch that's kinda unlikely anyway.

 

[Firky]

or be able to scale from a6 to 6 sheet billboard but being as he's starting from scratch that's kinda unlikely anyway.

Yeah you can, you just need RIPS. Most people don't know how powerful PS et al are.

 

[bruise]

RIPS <curious only>

 

[Firky]

Raster image processing,

http://desktoppub.about.com/cs/rip/a/rip.htm

There's an awful lot of people on the internet (and on Urban) who don't have a clue what they're talking about at varying degrees. Be aware!

 

[Structaural]

link to the larger images although i swaer that i see liberal use of glowing edges there, in which case i may have to take you round the back of the design bike shed and thrash you to within an inch of your life

I think he should use a lense flare - they're 'in' at the moment.

 

[Structaural]

I don't know. Lens flare can add a certain bit of class to an otherwise dull BID

*note to self, read thread first

 

[Structaural]

<sniff> hmmm great i'm sure that's wonderful, no vector, no designer, no intrested. potatoe shop is good for web and phototouch up sure you CAN use it for other things but then i CAN use a tank as a shopping trolly, i just might get better results and be more competant at the task of shopping if i used the trolly designed for the purpose.</sniff>

Depends what you're creating. I've used photoshop for nuff designs... A2 @ 450dpi is good for almost anything. Plenty of designs cannot be done in vector. I finished the 2002 World cup logo in pshop because you can't shade it properly in illustrator, - same goes for the last 2 brands I did, you can't do decent airbrush shading with illustrator or decent textures. If it involves 3D rendered work then you'll be using photoshop....

With Text layers, SmartObjects, Effects and vector path layers you're not constrained size-wise with most things anyway.

 

[gabi]

Nice, you designed this?

Why couldn't that be done entirely in Illy tho?

 

[Firky]

I thought Andreas Abold did it

edit to add: Oh sorry, that was last years:

http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/o/e/logo.html

 

[Structaural]

Nice, you designed this?

Why couldn't that be done entirely in Illy tho?

Not designed - artworked with the designer. It has very soft shading to create the 3D effect - all drawn by hand. Not replicable with the emboss filter basically. Need a bigger shot to show it - I've only got it on paper.

 

[Firky]

Cool

My only claim to fame is this one:

My only real input was the navy blue (clever huh?! ) colour and compass. I whinged an awful lot that it lookedlike the Sydney opera house but they did not listen.

 

[pengaleng]

Not designed - artworked with the designer. It has very soft shading to create the 3D effect - all drawn by hand. Not replicable with the emboss filter basically. Need a bigger shot to show it - I've only got it on paper.

what emboss filter? have you never heard of gradient mapping?

 

[Crispy]

Yeah, even I could do that in illustrator, painful though it'd be.

 

[pengaleng]

Yeah, even I could do that in illustrator, painful though it'd be.

if you have trouble with paths and objects you'd kill yourself after trying to use a gradient map

 

[Structaural]

what emboss filter? have you never heard of gradient mapping?

I meant an emboss style in illustrator to clarify.

I'm an Adobe registered Photoshop and Illustrator Expert btw so don't come da clever clogs wiv me girl - I was using photoshop when you were six .

Gradient mapping is good for recolouring but it's of no use to create a 3D or embossed effect, I use it all the time when retouching or turning dark chocolate into white chocolate for example.
Or did you mean Gradient Mesh in illo?

We did create a pure illustrator version of the logo, Crispy, but it had to be simplified, that photoshop version has a lot of detail that can't be seen in a 100x250 pixel image - think Japanese woodcuts - it was made at A0 at 300dpi and fucking killed the computer I was working on. In fact I created about 25 different versions for every type of printing method including 10lpi line work and crosshatch versions for any backwater mono-printer out there - it had to be able to be printed in any country in the world.

Nice logo Firky. Your link to last years World Cup says that Whitestone did the 2002 one - but I was freelancing for Interbland, Newank and Sorry. Maybe theyr'e called that now... biggest c*nts I ever worked for, got sacked eventually for badmouthing the boss result.

 

[Firky]

t_p's pretty fly at what she does, show him your fairy tp

 

[Structaural]

t_p's pretty fly at what she does, show him your fairy tp

I think teeps is a wicked artist, I've seen her stuff.

Just sticking up for meself there... rather too robustly - hadn't had me morning coffee soz

 

[GarfieldLeChat]

I think teeps is a wicked artist, I've seen her stuff.

Just sticking up for meself there... rather too robustly - hadn't had me morning coffee soz

yeah i'm betting that was adobe certified robustness... charlie pants head...

 

[Structaural]

yeah i'm betting that was adobe certified robustness... charlie pants head...