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My Boss is on tonight- Martin Pease..............:eek:


he is having a big party at his house tonight and i bet they are popping champagne right now!!!!:D


:D you not invited then.

hardly homely, was plan boring were the character. cold looking
 
I pity the two little kids having to grow up in a flawless, lifeless non-space like that tbh.

I wouldn't pity them too much, not only did they look like happy and well adjusted kids as they ran around their new home, but the family are clearly so rich you could turn them into pate.
 
I wouldn't pity them too much, not only did they look like happy and well adjusted kids as they ran around their new home, but the family are clearly so rich you could turn them into pate.

The kids are indeed lovely, however the dogs are a pain and would make much better pate than the kids :D
 
That was a horrible house. Among many things that annoyed me about it were the fact they only had three poky little bedrooms and yet a vast amount of empty space hanging above the 'lounge' (although how anyone can lounge about in right-angled furniture is beyond me). Then there's the near total absence of any colour or form whatsoever. I pity the two little kids having to grow up in a flawless, lifeless non-space like that tbh.

The trade secrets program afterwards was good because it showed that 'minimalist' doesn't have to mean no colour, no curves and no warmth.

frank - you dont much like people who are fortunate enough to have the money to build their own home do you? :confused::D

you are like a one man crusade.
 
frank - you dont much like people who are fortunate enough to have the money to build their own home do you? :confused::D

you are like a one man crusade.

I normally really like Grand Designs, even though I disapprove of rich people in general it's nice to see people realise their own ideas. This current series is a bit of a bust where interesting designs are concerned though; the one last night was just endless right angles and flat white surfaces- no real individuality anywhere that I could see.
 
I normally really like Grand Designs, even though I disapprove of rich people in general it's nice to see people realise their own ideas. This current series is a bit of a bust where interesting designs are concerned though; the one last night was just endless right angles and flat white surfaces- no real individuality anywhere that I could see.

yeah - because you see those houses all over the place these days dont you? :confused::D
i cant get to work in the morning without seeing at least a few dozen that look like that. :rolleyes:
 
frank - you dont much like people who are fortunate enough to have the money to build their own home do you? :confused::D

you are like a one man crusade.

you are a one man spittle crusade defending the well off against the unwashed of urban, catch a grip man!
 
yeah - because you see those houses all over the place these days dont you? :confused::D
i cant get to work in the morning without seeing at least a few dozen that look like that. :rolleyes:

'Unique' is not the same as 'personal' you know. Perhaps the reason few people build houses like that is because few people wish to live in what is effectively a mini office block. Their 'living room' looked like it should have a big curvy desk in it with some blond girl with a bluetooth headset asking people if they'll hold.
 
'Unique' is not the same as 'personal' you know. Perhaps the reason few people build houses like that is because few people wish to live in what is effectively a mini office block. Their 'living room' looked like it should have a big curvy desk in it with some blond girl with a bluetooth headset asking people if they'll hold.

it was what they wanted. therefore it would be personal to them. do you really think they would spend all that time and money building something that was not 'personal' to them?! - we all have different tastes frank.
 
you are a one man spittle crusade defending the well off against the unwashed of urban, catch a grip man!

get back in your hole. how many times are you going to follow me on the boards. if you have nothing relevant to say then dont say anyhting please. or pm me so i can ignore you.
 
Just started watching the giant sugar cube with glass walls... don't think I'd like to live there. Looks like a bar not a home.
 
Just started watching the giant sugar cube with glass walls... don't think I'd like to live there. Looks like a bar not a home.

Looks like the set of a colgate advert, that woman is a div. The garden is ace, the kitchen is shite, the tap is arse, and the upstairs reminds me of the red light area in amsterdam. Load of arse. More money than sense.
 
It wasn't bad, I wouldn't live there as I don't go in for pure minimalism but it was clearly what they wanted and was an excellent example of how to manage your own build... Look at many of the previous programmes, they go over budget because the owners completely fail to think through the build (and often have far too much confidence in their own abilities). Sure, they spent £1k on a tap, but they saved about £30k by knowing what they were doing. Given the amount of absolutely top end features and the quality of the construction and finish the cost was pretty low. Still, when the kids grow up they're gonna kick themselves in the teeth for having that open wall on the master bedroom.

Modernism meaning minimalism is a bit of a fallacy that has came to itself in the late C20th, modernist buildings often appear minimal simply because they are entirely geared around function. if you build a block of flats for 400 people you can't say to yourself 'well so-and-so will live here, they like this, so I'll do that' so you create a clean, functional, well-lit space that people can then occupy and call their own. Of course there are a hell of a lot of staggeringly bad builds that are kind of by the numbers modernism; the sort of brutalist mass-housing that sprung up in the 60s and 70s but these are that way because they were built on the cheap with very little thought for the occupants. In fact there are also some extremely well thought out buildings from that period too; if you walk down Gospel oak road for example you see some fairly blank looking modernist terraces, slit windows and a lower brick (or possibly tile) portion... Go round the back though and you see that they also have outdoor spaces, go inside and they have large, open rooms which are well lit from above and behind, the street view is minimal (the slit widows), but then why would you want to see that?

Sorry, going off on one a bit - basically I'm pointing out that modernism is about a space that does exactly what it is supposed to do; and this is the key, a blank, white crisp house is not necessarily fulfilling that role. To do away with ornamentation and create something that is easy to organise and keep clear of clutter is one thing, but it is far too easy to push that too far and create something sterile. This is where critical regionalism comes in, the idea that modernism can draw on elements of the past, or the materials and traditions of the area to inform a build. It is about creating a modern space but one which responds to its environment, rather than simply being inserted into it. Tactility is important, materials should help inform the experience. It is most certainly not about using directly from the past, rather it is about using key elements, often in a manner that would not be associated with that technique/material etc. Note that it should not be confused with regionalism.

Critical regionlism is post-modern (which is a very misleading term, not postmodern style, simply a response to modernism), but there are elements of it in many of the works of the great modernists, particularly in dwelling spaces. Although not always expressly drawn from the area the qualities of the tactile, the sensory are often there.

Anyway, to get to the point, minimal modernism is a bit of an odd path to walk in a home (although it may be entirely appropriate for flats and offices), it is entirely possible to create a clutter-free, light, modern and spacious building that also brings in some natural qualities and that uses the tactile and the intriguing... At the end of this week's episode they talked about bringing the house outside, but at the same time one should consider bringing the outside in.
 
Be nice if Class War turned up and decorated their walls.

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I didn't like the house particularly - and thought they went about it strangely. But I approve of people expressing themselves and their own ideas. Kevin is such a design snob that he doesn't really approve of people going it alone.

Anyone else bored of his "but will it all go wrong" narration on every project?
 
I loved the house and the fact it wasn't finished!

The couple knew what they wanted and it was refreshing to see something different....I want a spooky house. :mad:
 
I thought that house was fantastic, particularly considering it was designed by someone who had no idea what she was doing. Mind you, I worked at an architect's firm for all of a week and even I know that the plans she was using weren't accurate enough to build from :eek:
 
Anyone else bored of his "but will it all go wrong" narration on every project?

hypercritically yes.

the knob is a felcher of Architecture and tbff I think the programme is now anchronistic, redundant & envirimentally reductionist and ignorant.

on a par with Grange Hill in fact. :D

but good tellypr0n for the aspirational nu_nouveau riche wannabies mind...thank fkk C4 still caters for minorities eh?:p
 
I didn't like it but thank fuck they showed something that wasn't a minimalist wank fest for Audi-driving, polo neck wearing design snobs. Im sick of white walls and glass fronts on GD...show us something different*.

*or am I crediting people with too much originality to not build a white/glass box :hmm:
 
it was a mess and an example of what happens when you give someone with no taste money to spend. why create an old gothic feeling house? just buy one and renovate it and then you get the real deal. you cant create history. what a totally pointless thing to do. spending money on new building should be about pushing boundaries and moving architectural styles forward not creating some pastiche of a jumble of different eras.
 
it was a mess and an example of what happens when you give someone with no taste money to spend. why create an old gothic feeling house? just buy one and renovate it and then you get the real deal. you cant create history. what a totally pointless thing to do. spending money on new building should be about pushing boundaries and moving architectural styles forward not creating some pastiche of a jumble of different eras.

Who are you to say what people spend their money on? Some kind of architectural fascist? :confused:
 
spending money on new building should be about pushing boundaries and moving architectural styles forward not creating some pastiche of a jumble of different eras.

No it doesn't - because you end up with the usual glass fronted crap GD has on most weeks. The best examples of new builds i've seen have been the flat packed buildings people have imported that don't push things forward but are sympathetic to the surrounding environment.
 
I didnt like it at all, but that women is worthy of admiration for her efforts.

Yeh she failed at many many things (Those plans!! :D) but you have to admire her dedication throughout the project.

They also didn't have loads and loads and loads of money like some of the others, there's hope for us yet! (maybe!)
 
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