Gordon Ramsey's F Word

[beesonthewhatnow]

The pigs are gonna get it , i can't watch

Do you eat meat?

 

[Kanda]

I like the way he done that and the way it was portrayed. Film some pigs and people for a few weeks and see people (including GR) create an attachment to it then show them being prepared just like any other pig.

And what Bees said, everyone that eats meat should see it.

(I eat all meat apart from veal )

 

[oddworld]

Do you eat meat?

Yes and I did watch really, I watched it because I do and it would of been hypocritical. Its hasnt put me off and I respect Gordon for going to watch it and be part of it.

 

[futha]

im not too sure of the argument that if you eat meat you should see it being prepared and killed. you use public toilets but you wouldnt want to clean them out after would you? but i do see what your saying, loads of people would eat mcdonalds without a second thought but seeing a free range animal get killed makes them feel sick. why exactly is that? is it because we arnt used to it and are used to having it done in a conveniantly out of the way place.
out of sight out of mind?

 

[lunatrick]

I like the series and the man. The pig thing was graphic but fair play to him for showing this stuff - people need to realise where their tea comes from....and stop being such blind consumers....

 

[lunatrick]

im not too sure of the argument that if you eat meat you should see it being prepared and killed. you use public toilets but you wouldnt want to clean them out after would you? QUOTE]

well somebody has to.......at least your aware of the need for them to be cleaned if you see what I mean?

 

[futha]

yeah i do see what you mean. people can be blind consumers as you put it.
wouldnt expect someone to think of it everytime they ate it though, just be aware and not freak out when they see an animal dying.

 

[Kanda]

wouldnt expect someone to think of it everytime they ate it though, just be aware and not freak out when they see an animal dying.

Of course. Everyone should be aware of how/where their food is prepared/comes from.

 

[futha]

i agree

 

[zed]

I knew a bloke once who had a pig as a pet. It only had three legs and I assumed that was why he kept it as a pet and I asked him about it. He told me that the pig had saved his live once when his house caught fire and the pig ran into the house and up the stairs and made enough piggy squealing noises to wake everyone up. After that, he said he didn't have the heart to eat him all at once.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

Anybody else watching this series , have to say I really enjoy it.

Last weeks episode involved - how to prepare jellied eels, which I have to say was quite graphic

I like the little bit that Janet Street Porter does about searching for low fat meats - which so far has included goat and crocodile!

I don't think he is going to be able to kill those piggies though, he has raised them really well and got too attached.

Is that what it's called?

I've only seen Hell's Kitchen, and the Restaurant makeover show.

Half the time I think he's ok, and half the time I think he's a prick.

 

[chainsaw cat]

Didn't GR feed a veggie a meat pizza one time?

if so, he's a cunt.

 

[H.Dot]

Do like this show but watched it last night and have to say the swearing is getting a bit ridiculous. I mean, I fucking swear as much as the next person but when its every other fucking word and they are just talking about fucking food it kinda looks a bit try hard wannabe Channel 4 trendiness. Not offended by it and when he's in the kitchen its kind of reasonable but saying fuck just to be cool is just fucking silly. Cunt.

I'd like to see him swearing like that at some of the kids round here... it would be like "blud i ain't choppin dat 4 no manz get me" and they'd beat him up.

 

[ymu]

yeah but they are free
It seemed to be more about knowing who is taking what from the rivers and where rather than becuase they wanted you not to fish them
I know a guy who works for the countryside service, he was telling our kids about them and the damage they do which is why we were so interested last night

Ill ask him what the deal is with fishing the little buggers yourself if people are interested
They taste fab

Bit late to the thread but ...

I think the licence thing is because native crayfish are endangered (because of the alien ones taking over the rivers). They're happy for you to take to monster invader ones, but not the native species, so I guess they want to know that you know what you're doing (and where you're doing it).

 

[Grandma Death]

If you aren't prepared to gut an animal yourself you shouldn't be eating it IMO.

Nonsense. We live in a world where things are packaged for convenience and there is no necessity to be involved in the process anywhere along the line.

I agree that people should understand how the meat industry works and what it takes for that piece of meat to get to your plate but you shouldnt have to be prepared to 'gut an animal' in order to eat it.

Thats a silly rationale.

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

I agree that people should understand how the meat industry works and what it takes for that piece of meat to get to your plate but you shouldnt have to be prepared to 'gut an animal' in order to eat it.

I think it's almost impossible to fully comprehend the process fully without doing so at least once.

 

[fen_boy]

I think it's almost impossible to fully comprehend the process fully without doing so at least once.

I wouldn't feel confident in killing a pig like the bloke last night though - he was very skilled at what he was doing - I'd make a terrible mess and probably just cause a nasty flesh wound in addition to lopping off one of my own fingers or something.
I've gutted animals before, but they've already been dead.

e2a not that I'm suggesting that anyone would gut a live animal

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

Sorry, didn't quite make it clear - I meant the gutting/cleaning process, slaughter is definately a skilled job!

 

[pootle]

Did you see a few weeks ago, when Gordon was shown some footage of factory farmed pigs. He was genuinely shaken by it, and say something along the lines of "it's enough to turn you vegetarian" and then went on to say how he understood now why people were vegetarian.

 

[2 Hardcore]

Perhaps he might moderate his attitude towards vegetarians now (he's always been pretty scathing). It was good to see that he's human
I really enjoy the F Word, but have had to close my eyes for some bits (killing the eels, and the pigs' demise last night). TV cooks have come a long way since Fanny Craddock and her dozy hubby sidekick!!

(And doesn't he have the most intensely electric blue eyes!!!)

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

I really enjoy the F Word, but have had to close my eyes for some bits (killing the eels, and the pigs' demise last night)

You're a veggie then?

 

[2 Hardcore]

You're a veggie then?

Nope, not entirely - just seems I rarely eat meat these days; more to do with not particularly wanting to watch animals being dispatched

 

[Grandma Death]

I think it's almost impossible to fully comprehend the process fully without doing so at least once.

Ridiculous statement. I havent been to Baghdad before but I know I wouldnt want to have a 2 week holiday there.

Animals get slaughtered-depending on how you view the issue its not nice-but shit happens. I dont feel the need to witness a slaughter or take part in it-I know what it involves thats enough.

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

Ridiculous statement

I think not - you only had to see Ramseys reaction last night to realise that. No matter what you think you know about the realities of meat production there is nothing that can quite prepare you for seeing, and experiencing, it first hand.

Likewise, I'd say a soldier on the ground in Iraq has a far better idea of the realities of war than someone who's mearly seen it replayed on TV.

 

[Grandma Death]

I think not - you only had to see Ramseys reaction last night to realise that. No matter what you think you know about the realities of meat production there is nothing that can quite prepare you for seeing, and experiencing, it first hand.

Likewise, I'd say a soldier on the ground in Iraq has a far better idea of the realities of war than someone who's mearly seen it replayed on TV.

I would say Ramseys reaction was also due in part to the fact he had some emotional attachement to the pigs.

I would agree to an extent that seeing something getting killed in the first person would be grim for SOME people but I dont think you HAVE to witness it to know its grim.

Some people might not be that phased by it and its wrong to assume everyone who eats meat SHOULD witness it or indeed take part in it.

 

[Orang Utan]

The pigs being killed didn't bother me as much as I thought it would - maybe I should become a butcher.

 

[craigxcraig]

just joining in here - the bit that troubled me was the part where they boiled the pig and took several layers of skin off of as well as the hair.

 

[Pieface]

Ill ask him what the deal is with fishing the little buggers yourself if people are interested
They taste fab

please do - I really want to catch some - they look delicious. I'm going to get a crayfish trap

 

[maximilian ping]

as well aws saying fuck and yes all the time he also speaks in couplets:

onions: chop
parsley: in
lamb: cover
beans: soak
oven: 20 minutes
gravy: pour

 

[fen_boy]

just joining in here - the bit that troubled me was the part where they boiled the pig and took several layers of skin off of as well as the hair.

really? surely it's just a carcass at that point.