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I'm 53 minutes in now and still keep smiling at what they've done.

I have no idea what's required in terms of behind-the-scenes code to achieve this, but nothing stands out as a massively big jump technologically.

What does keep making me mutter 'fuck me...' is the brilliant way that they've designed this - the way they've intergrated numerous existing functionalities into one tool, and then extended them a bit for good measure. And they've done it in a way that looks incredibly intuitive.

I'm impressed.
 
I'm in awe at the developers.

Even having the foresight to realise that people won't want stuff turning up on Google servers if a google client isn't included in that part of the convo.

My only criticism is that there was no mention of deleting or recalling messages.

You just have to love that translation gadget. I can see how thats going to make the world a smaller place than it was before.

I don't think it will destroy bulletin boards etc untill such time as they find away to discover new friends and networks.
 
sheeeeeet! dynamic translation. WTF?? Looks like it's emacs for the net in the sense that it can (almost) do everything. I loved that video
 
what excites me about this is the fact that they are releasing the API to developers in parallel. Look at all the cool stuff that people have done with Google Maps since it came out, and in fact how much impact gmaps and the 1000's of clever implementations have had on the web. If Wave kicks off it could get very, very interesting. All of a sudden the "read HTML for Dummies and call yourself a web developer" era is over. The client is in Java and Python (fingers crossed for a .net version soon), the embed APi is running pretty clever Javascript. Its grown up HCI, full communications apps happening in a web browser. I was reading the docs for the v3 of the gmap API the other day and realised just how far its evolved. Wave isn't even available to the average user yet and its already a massive paradigm shift. imagine what will happen once everybody can get their hands on it.

Bare in mind though that Wave is actually based on an entire new protocol, so its not going to be so widely adopted right away. Lots of people (ie the entire internet) are getting excited about this based on an hour+ demo - it will be interesting to see what real-life stuff comes out the end.

I wonder if this is why Google are pushing their Chrome so hard? IE can't cut it (and hasn't since it shat all over Netscape back in the dawn of time) firefox is great but getting a bit bloated (3.5 might fix that though) but if google can push browser-based client cleverness themselves and have a browser that can handle it they can start pioneering innovative communcation tech much easier.
 
Shippou-Chan said:
i don't think it will kill boards the boards will still act as the comunity hubs it just the way you read them may change
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Wave is currently shaping up to be a method of communicating with people and groups - I think there will always be a need for public places for people to intially meet.
 
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Sign up here! https://services.google.com/fb/forms/wavesignup/

More: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2350552,00.asp
 
Five things abut Wave:

1.) Does Wave replace Gmail and Google Docs? I asked this question at the press conference. Vic Gundotra, who was referred to as the vice president of engineering at Google, danced around the answer, however. Wave does bring together Gmail and Google Docs, he said. However, he characterized Wave as "an early developer release". "Over the next several months we'll figure out how to bring these things together," he said, referring to Gmail and Docs.

Fortunately, other journalists kept at it. I don't think it would be a surprise to anyone if Wave became the evolution of Gmail, Docs, and maybe even Blogger. In a telling point, Rasmussen admitted that he would like "one communication tool for all my needs".

So who is Wave good for? The informal consensus among the people I talked to was that it would be a fun tool for tech-savvy young people, great for collaborative work in a corporate environment, and way too complicated for email-savvy grandparents. (Sorry.)

2.) The real-time aspect. There's been much ado about Twitter, and its real-time search capability, which provides any user with a real-time feed of what users are talking about. All of the acquisition rumors (which are all false, at this point) point to that engine as the meat of any transaction.

Well, here's the thing: Google Wave is real-time: real-time search of Waves, real-time linking, real-time remote control object manipulation (say I embed a map in a wave, and then manipulate it remotely while you're looking at it), real-time translation. (Yes, on a character-by-character basis. Imagine a Google Doc translating your words into Spanish as you type.)

3.) Real-time search. As you can see from the post above, real-time search is just one aspect of the real-time capabilities of Wave, so focusing on this one issue sort of misses the forest for the trees. But, in some ways, the air has just been let out of Twitter's sails.

To recap: Lars Rasmussen, the project lead for Google, saved a wave with the title of "wav", minus the final "e". Stephanie Hannon, the project manager and co-presenter, began a search for "wave," with an "e". No results. Rasmussen re-saved as "wave". Pop! The search immediately turned up Rasmussen's result. Rasmussen then resaved as "wav". Poof! It vanished. The two went back and forth several times in several seconds. A parlor trick, but an impressive one nonetheless.

But here's what hasn't been made clear: is the real-time capability across all Waves? Or just the ones that you have interacted with or is in your circle of friends? I asked Gundotra whether Google could ever position its search page as a *ahem* Live Search. Gundotra's response, was, essentially, that Google is constantly improving its response time to get close to real-time results, but that real-time is an absolute that will be approached, but never actually met.

4.) Mobile waves. Not surprisingly, Rasmussen said he sees the mobile experience as one that's absolutely essential to the future of Wave, especially as more and more people generate and consume content while on the go. Gundotra also highlighted an on-stage demo where both an Android phone and an iPhone ran Wave via the Google Web Toolkit, proving that the browser is indeed the OS of the future. There are no plans for a native iPhone Wave app, Hannon said.

Bonus point: waves can be embedded in Web sites, and Web site operators will be able to determine how they handle them, Rasmussen said.

5.) Fighting spam. Although Gmail does an excellent job fighting spam, some does get through. And spammers have become adept at sending you unwanted ads on your mobile phone, via Facebook, and through other media.

Google has had some of its "top security guys spreading magic crypto fairy dust" on Waves to ensure they have come from who they say they come from, Rasmussen said, as well as to ensure that they haven't been altered. Google also plans to whitelist contacts.

Did I miss anything? Google has now posted the on YouTube, for everyone to enjoy.
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Via: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2347872,00.asp
 
Well I applied but no invite as of yet. If anyone gets it and wants to use up one of their five invites I'll be happy to accept o ne. :)
 
Looks good, but it's quite similar to Facebook isn't it? In that people can post something like "I'm going to the dog and duck for a pint tonight if anyone fancies it, there from 7" and there will be replies from friends saying "ooh yeah I fancy a pint, see you there" "you're always in the pub!" "No I'm not, just once in a while" "bunch of pissheads" etc etc etc...
 
Yes and no. It's like every good communications ap on the net rolled into one without the need to leap around to different sites and applications. And from memory take email to the next level.
 
If they could invent something to access all of my email accounts at the same time (work, Yahoo and googlemail) that's free to use then I'd be in like Flynn.
 
It's basically someone reinventing email and messaging to match what is now possible and incorporating other innovations that are floating about. It does look great.
 
If it could be used to discuss visual stuff like drawings (and let people scribble on them in real time) either online or in combination with a phone call I can see it being really useful in a work context.
 
I asked first remember peeps :p :)

Hmm Wave for Android but not iPhone. Not sure I'm too happy about that. As it's going to be open source though some bright spark will be able to develop an iPhone ap without Google's help though won't they?
 
My daughters dad is or will be beta testing this. Its caused quite the stir in his nerdy household. :D

Im still not sure what it is. Maybe I will call him and ask for an invite and see....:)
 
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