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Good things done by Tories

Not sure if anyone has mentioned it, but the Tories made a huge contribution to reducing the amount of 'fit-ups' and miscarriages of justice by introducing taped interviews for suspects.

I think in the PACE Act, 1984?

The days of 'verbals' were never the same again.
Wasn't that more a reaction to the problems of the time with the hoo-haa about abuses from the Regional Crime Squads.
 
Wasn't that more a reaction to the problems of the time with the hoo-haa about abuses from the Regional Crime Squads.

No - to do with the sus laws which provoked the 81 riots and also about the upcoming, and they knew it - they hung on to them as long as they could - GUildford 4, B'ham 6 etc releases...
 
Far more countries were granted independence from the british empire under Tory administration than under Labour. I presume most people reading this would think that a good thing. Probably most Brits too, Probably most people in those countries as well, because 'self-rule' is deemed to be a good thing, even if it really simply transfers power from one elite to another.
 
also remebered something to do with Chamberlains Housing subsidies and the building of council housing to replace slums.
 
I'm not 100% sure of these but; Repeal of the Corn laws, Catholic Emancipation, Home Rule for Ireland. On a more contemporary and local level, when John Major was a Lambeth councillor, he ended the unofficial racial segregation and racist allocation practices in council housing.
 
No - to do with the sus laws which provoked the 81 riots and also about the upcoming, and they knew it - they hung on to them as long as they could - GUildford 4, B'ham 6 etc releases...

Actually it was piloted in Harringay at the time of the Broadwater Farm riots
 
Central Electricity Board and the National Grid 1926

oh yes, the Tories in 1926 were greatly admired!


it's all very well looking for odd examples of stuff they did because they were in power at the time it became inevitable (like the breakup of the empire I mentioned above) but this thread might need a sense of perspective :D
 
Wasn’t it the Tories that first started serious ‘peace’ talks with the IRA that resulted in the Good Friday Agreement?
 
oh yes, the Tories in 1926 were greatly admired!


it's all very well looking for odd examples of stuff they did because they were in power at the time it became inevitable (like the breakup of the empire I mentioned above) but this thread might need a sense of perspective :D

The perspective is that the record of the Labour Party don't look much better. In fact New Labour have been to the right of the Tories most of the time whilst they have been in office.
 
First Jewish Prime Minister - Benjamin Disraeli

First Homosexual Prime Minister - Ted Heath

:D

Yes, the first is true, of course, in a sense - though he had converted to Christianity. He was a Jewish Anglican.

The second one is just a guess. You may well be right, but we really don't know. (And we certainly don't know that none of his predecessors had been gay.)
 
Wasn’t it the Tories that first started serious ‘peace’ talks with the IRA that resulted in the Good Friday Agreement?

when Major overturned Thatchers disgusting and murderous 'we don't talk to terrorists' mantra.

At some point the same crap from Blair/Bush/Olmert will have to be overturned too...
 
The perspective is that the record of the Labour Party don't look much better. In fact New Labour have been to the right of the Tories most of the time whilst they have been in office.

probably true. I did wonder the other day about whether a 'good stuff done by Labour' thread would be longer or shorter.
 
:D

Yes, the first is true, of course, in a sense - though he had converted to Christianity. He was a Jewish Anglican.

The second one is just a guess. You may well be right, but we really don't know. (And we certainly don't know that none of his predecessors had been gay.)

True. :D
 
I'm not 100% sure of these but; Repeal of the Corn laws, Catholic Emancipation, Home Rule for Ireland. On a more contemporary and local level, when John Major was a Lambeth councillor, he ended the unofficial racial segregation and racist allocation practices in council housing.

Listing the first three here is like saying that doing away with the poll tax should count as a tory success.
 
[shaky historical recall] I see your point, but before then the Tories didn't really exist did they? [/shaky historical recall]
 
i dunno it says somthing when the thatcher years are made to look like a relative time of persoanl freedom ( cjb aside) compared to the attack on civil liberties under this nushamebore government in all its forms
 
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Broadwater farm riots were in October 1985 - PACE came in 1984.

You are confused Attica not me. The act was passed in 1984 but the pilot ran into the next year. I had a mate who was an appropriate adult for one of the kids initially interviewed over Blakelock . I was also there .
 
You are confused Attica not me. The act was passed in 1984 but the pilot ran into the next year. I had a mate who was an appropriate adult for one of the kids initially interviewed over Blakelock . I was also there .

Whoopeee fucking do. Well done. You've explained something you've written.
Forgive me for not being excited.:p
 
The perspective is that the record of the Labour Party don't look much better. In fact New Labour have been to the right of the Tories most of the time whilst they have been in office.

Just prior to losing office in 1979 the Tories introduced pilot schemes to make the long trm unemployed do compulsory work for their benefits. However they at least paid an extra tenner a week for this. New Labours proposal appears to be worse than this - no extra money at all.

The pilots actually started after the Labour Party came to power. I was force=d to cut down weeds in an overgrown cemetary for a few weeks. Since we didn't actually remove the weeds, they grew back in time for the next wave of people to come and work on.
 
Just prior to losing office in 1979 the Tories introduced pilot schemes to make the long trm unemployed do compulsory work for their benefits. However they at least paid an extra tenner a week for this. New Labours proposal appears to be worse than this - no extra money at all.

The pilots actually started after the Labour Party came to power. I was force=d to cut down weeds in an overgrown cemetary for a few weeks. Since we didn't actually remove the weeds, they grew back in time for the next wave of people to come and work on.

Geoff I remember the Tories defeating Labour in 1979; which makes your post read a little strangely.

Cheers - Louis MacNeice
 
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