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firky said:
But if you enjoy it fela, fair does. Still think it is a game largely populated by twats :)

Even if that were true, then why should that stop me taking up the sport? Of course there are a few twats playing the game, maybe more pro-rata than any other sport. But i'm not living my life and making decisions based on other people or twats.

I see many twats playing the game here in thailand. And they are 100% twats. I"m sure they exist in england too, i know it was a very elitist sport when i was growing up. I also know that at the same time as i was growing up in elitist england, people in australia played the game with no such hang-ups.

But i think the game is fucking magical. It can fuck with your mind like nothing else i've known with the exception of trying to give up smoking, but it has rewards i've not found anywhere else in life. When you hit the sweet spot and the ball just flies, defying gravity, then the pleasure is total.

The game also has a lot of teaching for the player about life in general, as well as the game itself.
 
kained&able said:
Golf is shit. Not beacuse its eletist(i dont think it is anymore) not beacuse its not a real sport or any such bollocks.

Its just plain shit.

So that's that then. Golf is shit because it's shit...

Wow, you're on form today mate!
 
johnnymarrsbars said:
oh, and with regard to the dress code. no tshirts, jeans or trainers. thats about it. golfers dont walk around in plaid trousers and beret's.

Funnily enough golf has perhaps the most relaxed dress code of all sports...

i guess though with the exception of darts.
 
That's the airy fairy bollocks I hate about golf, the twee philosophy, the silly conventions, the spoddy pursuit of new equipment.

It's a fucking game at the end of the day, with all the physical exertion of a pub game like pool or darts. You carry a stick round and hit a ball with it - quite a laugh in small doses, but little more.

Give me darts down the local anyday. A game of targets without pretence. And no silly requirements on land or the water table either..
 
fela fan said:
So that's that then. Golf is shit because it's shit...

Wow, you're on form today mate!

yeah beacuse i didnt say anything else after that did i.

and golf has the most relaexed dress code??? funny i don't seem to recall there being a any dress code when i played 5- a side last. Possibly no studs was mentioned but that would be silly on astro turf

dave
 
kained&able said:
sorry refuse to belive they work it out using physics. You know roughly what your trying to do and how to do it and you get it done. Same with tennis same with snooker same with any sport.

No, not the same as any other sport, although you mention snooker, the nearest equivalent.

The difference between golf and nearly every other sport is that you have time to think in golf. And that thinking, mental activity, is the potential undoing of all golf players. In other sports there is no thinking time.

I'm afraid that if golf was as simple as getting 'it done' then the addiction levels to the game would be massively less than they are.

It's the only sport that has widows... and it's the only sport that folk give up through utter frustration.

It is the most challenging of all sports, because of the mental disciplines required. There's simply too much time to think yourself into a bad shot...
 
tarannau said:
That's the airy fairy bollocks I hate about golf, the twee philosophy, the silly conventions, the spoddy pursuit of new equipment.

It's a fucking game at the end of the day, with all the physical exertion of a pub game like pool or darts. You carry a stick round and hit a ball with it - quite a laugh in small doses, but little more.

Give me darts down the local anyday. A game of targets without pretence. And no silly requirements on land or the water table either..

There's no 'twee philosophy' in the golf i play, no silly conventions that i can think of, and no-one i play with or know of who pursues new equipment.

Could it be that you are a slave to the grossest of generalisations tarranau?

Now, where i play i'm in the sun, 35 degrees or so, for five hours. A bit more strenuous than darts i feel.

But in any case, you're just dissing the game for the sake of it, this thread is really for those that care about the game and want to enjoy talking about it.

So run along you cynical boy.
 
kained&able said:
and golf has the most relaexed dress code??? funny i don't seem to recall there being a any dress code when i played 5- a side last. Possibly no studs was mentioned but that would be silly on astro turf

dave

Football, cricket, rugby, hockey, tennis, snooker, athletics, squash, badminton, swimming, baseball, american football, ice-hockey, you name it, all sports have a far stricter dress code than golf.

Apart from five-a-side if you wish kained. But that really is your lot.

Except for darts, but i already mentioned that.
 
fela fan said:
Football, cricket, rugby, hockey, tennis, snooker, athletics, squash, badminton, swimming, baseball, american football, ice-hockey, you name it, all sports have a far stricter dress code than golf.
Indeed! Golf club houses have a long and splendid history of being welcome to all, regardless of their dress, gender and race!

In an alternative universe, that is.
 
tbh golf is always going to be slated by a lot of people on this board. its never really been popular with the lefty eco warrior communist type...
 
fela fan said:
Football, cricket, rugby, hockey, tennis, snooker, athletics, squash, badminton, swimming, baseball, american football, ice-hockey, you name it, all sports have a far stricter dress code than golf.

Apart from five-a-side if you wish kained. But that really is your lot.

Except for darts, but i already mentioned that.

what level are you basing this at? Professional/semi pro(as in sunday league) team games? or in am an enthusiast using my local club way? as in the way YOU play golf? At least compare like for like.

If enthusiast there is no dress codes for any of the above mentioned with the exception of cricket sometimes . I have never gone to a lcoal sports centre and been told i cant play because of a tee-shirt or jeans or beacuse im wearing trainers and i highly suspect if i choose to play squash/football whatever in a suit everyone would do nothiung but laugh. And im not saying football has no dress code in a jumpers for goalposts situation as im well aware you can hit a golf ball around a park in whatever dress you feel appropriate so the comparisoin would be silly, much like yours.

Out of intrest whats the dress code for ryder cup? Matching polo shirts all of the same colour? same coloured trousers? Thats your uniform covered at the only level golf is played as a team sport.

dave
 
fela fan said:
The difference between golf and nearly every other sport is that you have time to think in golf. And that thinking, mental activity, is the potential undoing of all golf players. In other sports there is no thinking time.

It is the most challenging of all sports, because of the mental disciplines required. There's simply too much time to think yourself into a bad shot...

Here comes the bullshit then. And people wonder why I think golfers talk their game up far too much - 'most challenging of all sports' indeed. Love the way you inflate it.

Nearly every sport requires thinking time and mental discipline. Games of snooker, darts and the like require even greater accuracy, unerring nerves and a lack of self doubt, just as golf does. Other sports require immediate reactions and thinking time - think of the role of Quarterback in American Football for example. It's guff to say that golf has a monopoly on mental discipline, just because it requires so little physical activity.

Golf's generally a game for those who aren't good, or are getting too old for, physical sports. It's a simple game with some merit, it's the tossers who waffle on about being the 'ultimate challenge' that get my goat - it's still a passive game with balls and sticks
 
tarannau said:
Give me darts down the local anyday. A game of targets without pretence. And no silly requirements on land or the water table either..

You mean Caber tossing? ;)
 
tarannau said:
Golf's generally a game for those who aren't good, or are getting too old for, physical sports. It's a simple game with some merit, it's the tossers who waffle on about being the 'ultimate challenge' that get my goat - it's still a passive game with balls and sticks

i can't even be arsed arguing with you. coming out with such a misinformed fucking idiotic statement really doesn't warrant a rebuttal. :rolleyes:
 
johnnymarrsbars said:
i can't even be arsed arguing with you. coming out with such a misinformed fucking idiotic statement really doesn't warrant a rebuttal. :rolleyes:

What do you not agree with - that golf is a game played with balls and sticks?

Or do honestly believe that the majority of the best young athletes have enough time to play golf?. I was a middling, county level at best, sportsman, but the chances of me finding enough time to play a round of golf were minimal - Saturday and Sundays were dedicated to club sports and/or practices. A game of pitch and putt or the odd round in holidays perhaps, but I can't think of many athletic types at school or slightly later who were serious golfers. Not to say that people don't take it up later, but I'll stick by the original point.
 
editor said:
Indeed! Golf club houses have a long and splendid history of being welcome to all, regardless of their dress, gender and race!

In an alternative universe, that is.

I don't play golf in any bloody club house, i play it on the course. It's an outdoor game editor!

But in any case, there are countries outside of the UK and US mate. What you describe is a very anglo-american thing. In the countries i play golf no such worries about all that stupid shit. But i am led to believe that golf in the more northern parts of england, along with wales, is open to all and welcome to all, and doesn't cost a fortune to get a round in.
 
johnnymarrsbars said:
tbh golf is always going to be slated by a lot of people on this board. its never really been popular with the lefty eco warrior communist type...


or with a wide range of other people, you clueless cock :D
 
Incidentally, for all posters who like their golf, thailand is a paradise for the game. Costs are low, courses are stunning, caddies deal with your bag and help you read the greens, no mud, hardly ever any rain, and great 19ths.
 
fela fan said:
But i am led to believe that golf in the more northern parts of england, along with wales, is open to all and welcome to all, and doesn't cost a fortune to get a round in.
So, clubs such as the Royal St George’s Golf Club in Sandwich, England, which hosted the British Open in 2003, and which, for many years, had a sign on its property banning ‘dogs and women’, is confident it will be unaffected. A spokesperson said: “We have a single sex membership and will remain that way. Women are welcome to play the course, as are other guests, but, because we already have a single sex membership, we will be permitted to remain so.”
http://www.associationmanager.co.uk/news/7/july2007/newanalysis.asp

Just like football then. Not.
 
Chorlton said:
It is therfore with a certain level of knowledge of the game and the culture associated with it that i can say that it is an absolute cunt of a game played and enjoyed by the sort of utter fucking knob that you would do anything to avoid in any other circumstance - Golf really is a fucking phenomena in anthropology in the way it attracts the greatest most pompous fucking cocks to enjoy its charms

I used to think that way, and I still do a little bit. But it's changed recently.

In the past couple of years, I've gone to a driving range a few times. As it turns out, I'm not bad at that part of it. I don't have a lot of trouble hitting the ball 200 yards. I've never played an actual game, but I've been around courses a little.

There are lots of people with special clothes and shoes, and they look like the kind of people you want nothing to do with. But then I figured something out: most of them are completely shit at the game.

A little while ago, I was going to be going to the driving range with some people I know, and friends of theirs. They all had played golf for awhile. I didn't want to rent a club, so I went to Superstore and bought a driver for about seven bucks.

So out we go, me with my seven dollar club, and them with these bags of super expensive clubs. I can't remember the names.

I start whacking out my 200 yarders, and they start slicing and waffling. One of them brings up this 200 dollar driver and says 'try this: I call it the .......[something like 'hammer', or 'driller'] I try it, and tell him, no thanks, I like my club better.

It's like anything. People spend tons of money on something, and talk all day about it, but underneath it all, they're shit when it comes to actually doing it.

So now, I look at golfers in a whole new light.
 
editor said:

That's a fucking big surprise, golf is not like football.

In the club houses where i go in thailand and australia, and even on the courses i've played in england (probably public courses, don't know, but no membership needed) everybody is welcome, including dogs and cats at my local course. And should we wish to, we can even wear jeans. Wow.

It seems to me that it is only in anglo-american thinking that golf is elitist. The rest of the world just treats it like any other sport. So, golf is not the problem, the problem is british people's attitude towards it.
 
Johnny Canuck2 said:
So now, I look at golfers in a whole new light.

A gross generalisation. An experience you had with a bunch of golfers and suddenly all golfers are the same.

I've played the game for about four years now, still with the same second hand set of clubs i bought at the beginning, although i can hit woods now, so i've bought two of those. All i'm interested in is hitting the ball on the sweet spot and watching the thing fly into the sky.

But plenty of asian men are well into their drivers... it's how you measure your ego innit.
 
fela fan said:
A gross generalisation. An experience you had with a bunch of golfers and suddenly all golfers are the same. .

No, I've been out to at least three golf courses, and probably a half dozen driving ranges, and one or two of those a handful of times each.

I was also partly tongue in cheek, but you missed that.
 
And they're not all the same. Just that a lot of them are shit at it.

Btw, the chinese men at the driving ranges are a force to be reckoned with, by and large. They take lessons, then they practice, then it's 'thwack, thwack, thwack,' each and every time.
 
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