Wrong you are. They do not have a databse per se but make the request via Interpol and certain nations with which they have reciprocal agreements like the UK, as well as most EU, Canada, and the like. this is exactly why you must wait 3 days for almost all incoming International flights to the States when booking. I face the very same scrutiny when trying to book those same nations on my US passport, even for transiting. As for disclosure, they have a nice little trick where you are facing a felony for not fully disclosing and as i said, they DO have access to your records if coming from the nations i mentioned so always be prepared. Wackenhut run Immigration joints stuck out in Long Island are not fun places.
going to usa - do you need a visa these days
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I really find this site so confrontational and really do not wish to get antagonistic over such a mindane issue but I have to be honest, you are not giving accurateinfo. If you say you fly from Europe,including the UK of course, into the States oin 24 hour purchase, you are lying. It is not possible . I last flew there July 3rd, well arrived the 4th but it is one and the same. I do hold a US passport (I am dual) and even that did not allow me to buy within 3 days. I did not plan on going there, as I was coming to the Philippines from Israel but has apartment nonsense that needed sorting in NYC. Wanted to buy my ticket on short notice June 28th and was told not a chance. Not the first time, but still i tired and it is impossible.
While I did not originate in UK, I clarified the policy once again and it is as it has been since a bit after 9/11.
(Edited because I deleted a repeated post and inserted this updated post in response to previous comment).
While I did not originate in UK, I clarified the policy once again and it is as it has been since a bit after 9/11.
(Edited because I deleted a repeated post and inserted this updated post in response to previous comment).
How dare you call me a liar, you really are a pillock. If I say I have done this then that is what happened. Just because you had problems does not mean that it is a general problem for everybody.rachamim18 said:
Why do you come out with information that is clearly shown to be wrong and then get all snotty when someone says so? Are you really so insecure?
I have problems? As a drug felon it is a given but it does not matter...It is policy, and easily found should anyone care to look into it. I hesitate to call anyone a lair,m much less a facelss cyber personality but it is what it is. Perhpas though, liar is incorrect. Perhaps badly mistaken is more apt, as well as highly emotional.
Perhaps if I have time later I will provide a few links that will give folks a bit of an idea about reality.
Perhaps if I have time later I will provide a few links that will give folks a bit of an idea about reality.
You can post all the links you like, I was still able to do so. It was last year, therefore well after all the new regulations were introduced. Clearly you don't hesitate to call someone a liar because that is exactly the wording that you used, and yes, I do get upset at being called a liar, I may get things wrong from time to time, but I don't lie.
Getting things wrong is different than unequivocally claming you are correct and then standing by it when it is pointed out otherwise but If you made a mistake, not a problem. I do it all the time. In this caser though, it is indeed cut and dry. i really would not care enough to even broach it but feel this is an important subject as most do not have cash to waste on failed trips, etc.
Pingu: You can gain entry, you need only admit to it on the forms they hand you. Of course, people can get over because those forms,etc. depend on human vigilance and we all know how that goes. However, there is now ay to count on getting over and the risk, at least finaicnially for me and most of mine is too much to just wing it.
Pingu: You can gain entry, you need only admit to it on the forms they hand you. Of course, people can get over because those forms,etc. depend on human vigilance and we all know how that goes. However, there is now ay to count on getting over and the risk, at least finaicnially for me and most of mine is too much to just wing it.
The requirement of 72 hours applies to all and all must fill out the wavier form for a visa, even those form the UK, regardless of their past. Again, you are WRONG but enbough has been said about it in my view. I will let you have the last word as i am sure it will follow (smile).
One more thing, it spplies to US citizens flying home as well so of course you would have not been able to buy it 24 hours in advance.
Pingu
Credo
rachamim18 said:
he doesnt admit it on the forms
and if i wanted to i could book a flight on the 10.25 tomorrow morning (well technichally this morning) from manchester to orlando (returning on 4th sept ) for £582.40 on virgin atlantic - it let me get as far as the "give us your money" stage with no problems whatsoever. You do have to provide vaious bits of info though (APIS), it does say they want a weeks notice but looking it up on the US customs and border rotection web site they are happy provided the information is supplied "at time of departure"
so dunno... I have to book some flights to the US soon so will ask then. TBH thoiugh dont think I would want to take the risk if it were me flying (but it wont so we shall see how "terry" the human APIS gunniea pig" gets on in about 3 weeks time)
My last post on the subject because you are being a complete idiot and you have nothing more to add to this as far as I am concerned. You simply can't admit that you are wrong. I got the ticket with 24 hours of notice. At that time I didn't have a visa and had to use the 90 day waiver (thankfully it was for a simple business meeting, not for phyical work). Now I don't really care that much if you think (or that YOU do need 72 hours to get a ticket). I certainly WAS able to get one faster than that. Nor do I really care about your patronising '(smile)'rachamim18 said:
Nor does everybody need to fill out a visa waiver form (As of April I now have a 10 year B1 visa and only need to fill out a customs form). I'm not going to ask the rhetorical question, I'm simply going to state it, as a regular visitor to the US who is going to now how long it takes to get a ticket? Especially since as I have stated I got one in 24 hours. So you can stuff your comment about 'you would have not been able to buy it 24 hours in advance' right up your arse. Is that clear enough for you.
It does not matter if you have a record or not. Even US citizens with a clean record cannot but a ticket for less than 72 hours from departure. It is unbendable.
As for derailing, most here cannot afford to lose 1000 US or more on a ticket they will never use so ti is extremely important that as much info as possible be presented on the issue.
As for derailing, most here cannot afford to lose 1000 US or more on a ticket they will never use so ti is extremely important that as much info as possible be presented on the issue.
gorski
customised free radical
As I'm about to go to NYC - here are the details... freshhhhhhhhhh!!!
Once you book a flight it takes a few days for a confirmation email to come, then you need to give them additional info, like where you're gonna be etc.
Here is the email [and you'll see it takes days to sort it all out to go - and I have no previous convictions, arrests etc.]:
Draw your own conclusions...
Once you book a flight it takes a few days for a confirmation email to come, then you need to give them additional info, like where you're gonna be etc.
Here is the email [and you'll see it takes days to sort it all out to go - and I have no previous convictions, arrests etc.]:
Draw your own conclusions...
Exactly. Glad you posted it because it might save some people heaadaches as well as lost money.
Wait to you get to the airport. You will not be allowed to board. If you follow the 2 hyperlinks I posted you will see just why. They have copiues of your pasport, finances (yep, all of them), and any criminal behavoir. I too can book a flight for later today but I will not be allowed to board. Oh well, it does not make sense to keep repeating it as people have the info I offered , yet it is the responsibility of anyone reading thiws to verify on their own just what the situation is.
I will add this, some airlines will allow you to board without ingoing travel plans but when you arrive at the destination you will be barred. The 72 hours is time for the US ti check your pedigree. As stated, even American citizens need to wait.
I will add this, some airlines will allow you to board without ingoing travel plans but when you arrive at the destination you will be barred. The 72 hours is time for the US ti check your pedigree. As stated, even American citizens need to wait.
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
rachamim18 said:
Hmmmm, you've even come over to this forum to lie. Pathetic.
I dub thee Walter Mitty.
Pingu
Credo
well...
we ahd to send someone to Boston yesterday.
booked flight at 07:00 (ish) he flew on the 13:50 (Lufthansa) changing at Frankfurt before going on his merry way to Boston on United
despite the dire warnings hes sat in the clients office with his rectum intact and had by all accounts a pleasant flight
so... I would call this myth
we ahd to send someone to Boston yesterday.
booked flight at 07:00 (ish) he flew on the 13:50 (Lufthansa) changing at Frankfurt before going on his merry way to Boston on United
despite the dire warnings hes sat in the clients office with his rectum intact and had by all accounts a pleasant flight
so... I would call this myth
Pingu: Good for your client but do you imagine I made those websites up?Whom to believe? You who offers an anecdote or me with offical hyperlinks? Let folks make their own choice and if they lose money it is on them. Frankly it makes no difference to me as I do not plan to ever go there again. All the better.
Having just transited it July 4th...hmmm...I go with me. Anyway,m as the other guy said, enough with me derailing this threa. I offered up what "i did and that is all I can do or all I should care.
Question though came to ming Pingu: Does this person have the new card issued by the US Govt. that allwos people to circumvent these requirements? On July 3rd , at JFK in NYC I saw a sign and desk for it . Frequent flyers to and from the States can apply for an annual fee and breeze through although to be honest it did not say anything about the 72 hour wait. Still, I am curious. If they did not, still think you are lying.
Having just transited it July 4th...hmmm...I go with me. Anyway,m as the other guy said, enough with me derailing this threa. I offered up what "i did and that is all I can do or all I should care.
Question though came to ming Pingu: Does this person have the new card issued by the US Govt. that allwos people to circumvent these requirements? On July 3rd , at JFK in NYC I saw a sign and desk for it . Frequent flyers to and from the States can apply for an annual fee and breeze through although to be honest it did not say anything about the 72 hour wait. Still, I am curious. If they did not, still think you are lying.
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