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God Nirvana are shit...

Chorlton said:
check my tagline - thats what 'the kids' think

next week i will be pontificating on why Monster Magnet were the only band that could truly straddle both the 'grunge' AND the 'stoner-rock' camps... don't miss it....


YEEEEEEEESSSSS get in, just the mention of the Magnet is enough for me
 
Nirvana are ok, can't say I've ever really listened to them but I can fully see the appeal.

Though sadly they were, unknowingly, partly responsible for the atrocious wave of violently shit music that came out in the 90s and has been getting horrifyingly worse and worse ever since then.
 
kyser_soze said:
I'm so glad that, when Nirvana and grunge were á la mode I was busy being deeply, unfashionably happy dancing in fields to bleepy noiseswith a stupid, drug induced grin on my face.

I mean all that angst...

Seconded.

The kids in my school who were into their grunge were fucking nobs and extremely boring to boot.

But

Nirvana was one of the very first non 'ardcore bit of music I got into as a yoot.
 
siarc said:
nirvana were wonderful, everything else mentioned in this thread is shit

worst post ever .

Nirvana were good but hype has made them into what they were . The sadly underrated mudhoney on the other hand were just fucking excellent all the time , they were the Stooges of their generation IMO :cool:
 
onenameshelley said:
*meanders down memory lane*

actually your right he did miss out poor lamb. Saying that i have some right rubbish britpop in my collection, Seahorses or mansun anyone :o

Seahorses are shit.

Mansun had a fucking ace album called 'Six', bubblegum-rock :cool: :cool:


The only pureness left is preached for me by Marx..... BEING A GIRL!!!!

*jumps about*
 
I actually did like that one song of theirs, 'Frances Farmer will have her revenge on Seattle'.

But speaking generally I can only say, there's something deeply, fundamentally wrong with a society where young people make a hero out of Kurt Cobain.

When I was young my hero was Noel Browne, minister of health in Ireland's 1948 coalition government. A far more positive role model in my opinion.
 
Idris2002 said:
I actually did like that one song of theirs, 'Frances Farmer will have her revenge on Seattle'.

But speaking generally I can only say, there's something deeply, fundamentally wrong with a society where young people make a hero out of Kurt Cobain.

When I was young my hero was Noel Browne, minister of health in Ireland's 1948 coalition government. A far more positive role model in my opinion.

perhaps it's you that is strange?
 
Idris2002 said:
But speaking generally I can only say, there's something deeply, fundamentally wrong with a society where young people make a hero out of Kurt Cobain.

as opposed to John Lennon, John Lydon, Ian Curtis, John Coltrane, Jim Morrison, Che Guevara etc etc etc?

not exactly the guestlist for a WI conference, is it?
 
DoUsAFavour said:
Seconded.

The kids in my school who were into their grunge were fucking nobs and extremely boring to boot.

But

Nirvana was one of the very first non 'ardcore bit of music I got into as a yoot.

I was a RAWKER until about 17 when I realised that there was a 1000-1 male to 'female' ratio at most metal gigs, miserable grunger/goths, while at dance tings there were 000s of hunneez, wearing next to nothing, and all smiley and happy and more often than not well up for it without some 20 hour exposition on how important Kurt/Oscar Wilde/Jim Morrison/whoever was to them.
 
Idris2002 said:
When I was young my hero was Noel Browne, minister of health in Ireland's 1948 coalition government. A far more positive role model in my opinion.


My hero when I was a bairn: :cool:

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They've become a bit of a cliche and too many "depressed, angst ridden" teens like them.

But, if you actually think about it, they make good rock songs, no doubt about it.
 
Cobain and Nirvana always seem to me to be the epitomy of the ideology that the greatest thing that can happen to a career is dying. If you die, especially in well marketed emotional circumstances, then you're placed as some kind of human deity who was sacrificed Jesus-style. Other examples of posthumous elevation are Elvis, Buddy Holly, Jimi Hendrix, John Lennon, Keith Moon, Sid Vicious, 2Pac and Notorious BIG. However the difference are that none of these have experienced the chronic overrating that Cobain has. I bought "Nevermind" due to its cannonisation in all the greatest lists but I can't think of a more overrated album. "....Teen Spirit" is grosely outflanked by the Pixies' "Debaser" and Mudhoney's "Touch Me I'm Sick", but they're not dead. Also if you want a guitar outcast genius' early 90s masterpiece you'd be far better off with My Bloody Valentine's "Loveless".
 
stavros said:
Cobain and Nirvana always seem to me to be the epitomy of the ideology that the greatest thing that can happen to a career is dying. If you die, especially in well marketed emotional circumstances, then you're placed as some kind of human deity who was sacrificed Jesus-style. Other examples of posthumous elevation are Elvis, Buddy Holly, Jimi Hendrix, John Lennon, Keith Moon, Sid Vicious, 2Pac and Notorious BIG. However the difference are that none of these have experienced the chronic overrating that Cobain has. I bought "Nevermind" due to its cannonisation in all the greatest lists but I can't think of a more overrated album. "....Teen Spirit" is grosely outflanked by the Pixies' "Debaser" and Mudhoney's "Touch Me I'm Sick", but they're not dead. Also if you want a guitar outcast genius' early 90s masterpiece you'd be far better off with My Bloody Valentine's "Loveless".

Nirvana were far, far bigger than the pixies or mudhoney well before he died. He might have been hyped up since he died but that isn't the only reason.
 
The Pixies are easily the best band I have ever had the pleasure of seeing. And they shit all over Nirvana, yes.

Battle it?
 
Savage Henry said:
worst post ever .

Nirvana were good but hype has made them into what they were . The sadly underrated mudhoney on the other hand were just fucking excellent all the time , they were the Stooges of their generation IMO :cool:

I reckon the Jesus Lizard were closer to the spirit of the stooges.
 
I still remember the first time I ever heard Nirvana, when they did Smells Like Teen Spirit on the Word on channel 4. What a voice, what a band.

Foo Fighters on the other hand.........
 
Idris2002 said:
That gobshite again. Is he never off the fecking box?

Kyser - surely Charles Saatchi is a hero of yours?

Nah - he fucked up and killed S&S by over-reaching. Classic 'fall bought on through hubris' story. I have higher standards for those I would look up to and respect.

Besides, the whole notion of heroes is at the heart of why progressive, egalitarian societies won't happen. But that's a a whole other story.
 
zed66 said:
I still remember the first time I ever heard Nirvana, when they did Smells Like Teen Spirit on the Word on channel 4. What a voice, what a band.

Foo Fighters on the other hand.........

Foo Fighters are just the next stage for fans on their way through puberty:

aged 13........................................................aged 18
Blink 182 -> Foo Fighters -> Nirvana -> Pixies -> Sonic Youth
 
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