Glastonbury 2017

Discussion in 'festivals' started by Riff, Sep 22, 2016.

  1. newbie

    newbie undisambiguated

    My teenage years were spent with the Vietnam war on the telly every night and I'm finding repeatedly reading 'Napalm Death' really quite unsettling. :( Couldn't they have called themselves Fluffy Kittens or something?:thumbs:
     
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  2. JTG

    JTG Angry about not being able to be an astronaut.

    I don't think it would be consistent with their music tbh ;)
     
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  3. JTG

    JTG Angry about not being able to be an astronaut.



    Didn't see these by the Pyramid and interstage apparently. Wow.
     
  4. wiskey

    wiskey Albatross Admirer

    thats what was in the bottom of the stone circle the last few years isn't it? the pee lit the urinal at night.
     
  5. alsoknownas

    alsoknownas some bloke

    Ah, so that explains the weird sign I saw:

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  6. JTG

    JTG Angry about not being able to be an astronaut.

    Can't remember tbh, I'm up there so little
     
  7. JTG

    JTG Angry about not being able to be an astronaut.

    Where did the Underground Piano Bar get to this year? I gave someone directions only to find that when I finally got up there on Monday morning it was nowhere to be seen! Just some heras and a crew camping sign at the entrance to Dragon Field
     
  8. alsoknownas

    alsoknownas some bloke

    It moved by about 100m I think.
     
  9. JTG

    JTG Angry about not being able to be an astronaut.

    In which direction?
     
  10. alsoknownas

    alsoknownas some bloke

    Up the hill is all I know (didn't go there myself).
     
  11. William of Walworth

    William of Walworth Festographer

    Not sure why we gave a few songs by Ed Sheeran a go on iPlayer just now :oops: , but bloody hell he really is as boring as we'd thought!! :rolleyes:
     
  12. William of Walworth

    William of Walworth Festographer

    Glad we weren't asked about the Piano Bar when working, we'd be told by one of our lot at the main Info Point by Williams Green that the PB had moved, but none of had been and none of us knew where it had moved to ...
     
  13. JTG

    JTG Angry about not being able to be an astronaut.

    :confused:

    Sort of past the trees round the back of the Kings Meadow I spose.

    Probs Dragon Field crew campers fed up of public wandering through and evicted them
     
  14. alsoknownas

    alsoknownas some bloke

    I heard it was a bit bigger than usual with an outdoor area. My friend said it had become 'overly sanitised'.
     
  15. JTG

    JTG Angry about not being able to be an astronaut.

  16. wiskey

    wiskey Albatross Admirer

    That is appalling and the festival needs to get on and make a statement
     
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  17. JTG

    JTG Angry about not being able to be an astronaut.

    I think the festival industry sweeps a lot of stuff under the carpet tbh. Not seen anything else quite that bad but the management of various crews and agencies are notoriously awful to their workers
     
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  18. wiskey

    wiskey Albatross Admirer

    I can imagine some of the 'everyone should get paid' crew are going to have a proper rant about this
     
  19. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

    This is disgusting. If there's a hands off agreement then it mirrors the culture and irresponsibility of you know what and where.
     
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  20. newbie

    newbie undisambiguated

    appalling way to treat people.

    I had no idea litter pickers were recruited from outside the festival (or online). Nor that there were so many hundreds of people involved.
     
  21. wiskey

    wiskey Albatross Admirer

    I had no idea anyone would travel from europe!

    mind you the person I know who's done litter picking recently refused to stay on site after the first night and stopped doing it after a week (two years ago). And three years ago the 'ketamine cage' (the bit by the green barn at the top of cockmills) was notorious for bad behaviour.

    perhaps they stopped recruiting on site.

    there was less litter this year though.
     
  22. JTG

    JTG Angry about not being able to be an astronaut.

    I know they still recruit people by advertising around site on the Sunday but perhaps this has become subject to diminished reliability

    So: are they employed by GFEL or by an agency? Same end result obviously but affects whether the festival can try and hide behind ignorance

    I can't find much more about this story yet. I've found a JustGiving account to support the workers but have no idea of whether its kosher and is hasn't raised any money yet.

    Anybody have any clues? Seriously unhappy about this
     
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  23. JTG

    JTG Angry about not being able to be an astronaut.

    I mean, I appreciate that it's hard to know how much work there will be given weather, attempts to stay on top of litter during the show etc

    However. As a bare minimum it's out of order to throw people off when they have nowhere to go and have earned minimal funds. The festival knows that it has always relied on the labour of marginalised people to some extent.
     
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  24. William of Walworth

    William of Walworth Festographer

    I read that Independent article earlier -- absolutely unacceptable :mad:
     
  25. sim667

    sim667 Licking windows on the 303 bus.

  26. Gromit

    Gromit International Man of Misery

    Festivals are a tricky business.
    What can make you decent money one year can through no fault of your own can bleed millions the next.

    I know of a couple who bankrupted themselves trying to run one.

    To mitigate as much risk as possible they do shit like keep the ability to ditch workers at the drop of a hat. It not nice but necessary.

    What isn't necessary is Glastonbury having no financial issue and ditching people. That was just to increase profits rather than cut losses.
     
  27. sim667

    sim667 Licking windows on the 303 bus.

    I reckon Glastonbury have paid a firm for the clean up, the company have brought all these people over in the expectation of a muddy one, but due to lack of rain and litter picking during the festival, they haven't been needed and the company have not had them working in the interests of profit.
     
  28. fractionMan

    fractionMan Custom Title

    Litter picking used to be done via oxfam - free ticket, but you have to pick up all the shit afterwards. No idea why that changed.
     
  29. JTG

    JTG Angry about not being able to be an astronaut.

    Oxfam have done gate stewards for the last 25 years - not sure they've ever done litter picking.

    Recycling crew during the show are volunteers - work until Monday morning. After pick has always been paid afaik, ads placed around site on the Sunday to report to the farm Monday to register. They still did this this year but evidently had also recruited elsewhere before hand. Unsure whether it's a GFEL thing or a contractor here - I'm gonna assume contracted out but don't know for definite.

    Either way, the festival still has an ethical duty to take an interest of the welfare of workers on the farm and keep a handle on what's going on
     
  30. alsoknownas

    alsoknownas some bloke

    There were signs put up on Sunday for extra litter staff, I saw them myself :facepalm:. Actually there is a lot of economic exploitation at the festival - people working arty jobs just for a ticket (which I suppose mirrors the sort of 'work for exposure' culture in the real world), and a lot of bar workers, etc. who turn up expecting a wristband, but are never provided with one (they are expected to sneak about). :(

    eta - Obviously these practises are not sanctioned by the festival itself, but they still have a responsibility to keep tabs on what's going on.
     

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