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Glastonbury 2017

Discussion in 'festivals' started by Riff, Sep 22, 2016.

  1. William of Walworth

    William of Walworth Festographer

    We were chatting loads about Glastonbury on Saturday evening during my London visit, I was left tempted to look at clashfinder to find all about these so called line-up leaks but then I decided against looking. I'd rather just indulge in the odd bit of idle, baseless speculation and wishful thinking** :D

    **About Glasto 2017 weather, not the lineup :p
     
  2. Gerry1time

    Gerry1time pities the neurotypical

    You are. Glastonbury Festivals Ltd gets very cross at staff who refer to festival goers as punters. They insist on not using the phrase in fact. They call them festival goers, and they see them as the most important people on site.

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  3. wiskey

    wiskey Albatross Admirer

    Having said that it's common to hear ticket holders called punters across the festival scene although there's a definite drive to phase it out.

    It's the ticket holders who make the event, it's them who finances everything, them who bring vibrancy and energy when crew are fading fast, them who vote with their feet ... if the people don't come festivals fail - Bestival, Big Chill, SGP, Sunrise. Glastonbury must be doing something right.
     
  4. William of Walworth

    William of Walworth Festographer

    Thanks for that Gerry1time and wiskey -- there's always something Info crew need to be reminded about.

    I did know, but I've been guilty (on here and on site) of using the 'punter' word myself sometimes ... often, even :oops: :oops: :(

    And I don't recall this particular thing as something that's been emphasised in our crew training. So if the need to avoid calling festivalgoers 'punters' isn't brought up by our team leaders at our Taunton training this year, I'm going to make a point of raising the matter myself ... in a nice way like :)
    I'm sure they agree anyway.
     
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  5. William of Walworth

    William of Walworth Festographer

    Assuming our jobs actually get confirmed :eek: :hmm: :p
     
  6. JTG

    JTG Angry about not being able to be an astronaut.

    I don't see the problem tbh. They get treated with the appropriate care and respect whatever I call them. Same as when I worked in the NHS
     
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  7. William of Walworth

    William of Walworth Festographer

    That's also fair enough! :)
     
  8. wiskey

    wiskey Albatross Admirer

    We definitely have service users, but then we provide a service.
     
  9. Tort

    Tort Well-Known Member

    Is there? Going to have to do a serious re-write of the FAQs if that's the case. e.g. 3rd paragraph "the contents of this piece of work are based entirely on my own independent punter's perspective." :eek:
     
  10. chainsawjob

    chainsawjob Cautiously impulsive

    Yeah I've noticed a drive to phase it out, I remember it being mentioned not to use it maybe 4-5 years ago, and now it feels slightly awkward to say it, like there's some value judgment in it. Ok if festival-goers describe themselves as punters, less comfortable when it's crew saying it.
     
  11. mojo pixy

    mojo pixy unquantifiable hazards

    Sound like the new terminology should comprise Ticketholding Snowflakes, Site Crew Snowflakes, Organizer Snowflakes, Catering Snowflakes and Performing Snowflakes. Awwwww.
     
  12. alsoknownas

    alsoknownas some bloke

    I use the term punter all the time, both when it applies to me, and when it doesn't. It's fine. Everybody knows it's a bit tongue in cheek.
     
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  13. William of Walworth

    William of Walworth Festographer

    I might just politely ask in May about the view of the use of 'punters' on our crew then, as neutrally as possible! :oops: :confused:
     
  14. alsoknownas

    alsoknownas some bloke

    I mean if you really want to talk about something, let's talk about 'Babylon' :D.
     
  15. JTG

    JTG Angry about not being able to be an astronaut.

    Yup. I use it to describe paying football fans, people who go to the cinema etc etc. It's a descriptive word for somebody who has paid for a ticket/service/experience.

    Meh
     
  16. JTG

    JTG Angry about not being able to be an astronaut.

    Aha. Nail on the head there :D
     
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  17. William of Walworth

    William of Walworth Festographer

    I've actually been asked where Babylon is ... Not sure whether the 'punter' wanted to head towards or away from there though ... :p
     
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  18. newbie

    newbie undisambiguated

    yes, I can't see what the fuss is about, it's been in common usage for as long as I can remember.

    Long gone are the days when punter was a word used only by bookies (or prostitutes) to describe their clients or whatever it is that's supposed to be derogatory about it. Google reveals that modern dictionaries seem to agree that it's got a meaning of "a customer; a user of services or buyer of goods", or "A customer or client, especially a member of an audience". That meaning also occurs in our paper Collins, from 2001 but not in our Shorter OED from 1973, which only mentions the gambling definition.

    And let's face it: buying a ticket for Glastonbury is a gamble, there's no guarantee of having a good time, just a high likelihood (ie the exact opposite of betting on the horses, with a high expectation of losing).
     
  19. phillm

    phillm Trolling through Life (TM)

    You do realise Mr Green Tea that Glastonbury was founded and continues to be run by the nearest thing we have to a living god - and your comments - if one could call them that - amount to low level blasphemy. And if Michael were more demonic than he is absolutely not then such heresy ought to be rewarded by burning you at the Stone Circle. And as trolls go you are not fit to wipe the un-fluorodated silver colloidal sweat from Jazzz's brow.

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  20. wiskey

    wiskey Albatross Admirer

    Steady on :D
     
  21. JTG

    JTG Angry about not being able to be an astronaut.

    He's a daft old farmer who fancied a go at hosting a party. He's as silly as the rest of us
     
  22. phillm

    phillm Trolling through Life (TM)

     
  23. wiskey

    wiskey Albatross Admirer

    He's an incredibly privileged middle class white bloke from a very prosperous family based in a very rich village. He went to posh school and got a very good education, he then built on the fortunes of his ancestors on the family farm.

    I'm not saying he isn't a lovely chap, but there's more to him than just 'music festival God', shrewd businessman for starters.
     
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  24. Gerry1time

    Gerry1time pities the neurotypical

    Hugely. One whose heart and intentions are entirely in the right place, but he's very canny when it comes to bargaining. Comes from attending so many cattle auctions apparently. Don't know if it's still there, but a few years ago I noticed down at Red Gate, outside of the festival time, once all the security and signage is cleared away, there's still a proudly displayed and permanent looking sign about him being a breeder of premium holstein cows.
     
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  25. William of Walworth

    William of Walworth Festographer

    While I do agree ...

    TBF I think phillm was taking the piss a bit there :D
     
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  26. newbie

    newbie undisambiguated

    don't quote me on this but I think that relates to the dairy unit which is or was his neighbours.


    this says he has Holstein cattle
    Top Dairy Farming Honour For Glastonbury Festival Founder Michael Eavis | Auto Trader Farm UK
     
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  27. jimbarkanoodle

    jimbarkanoodle Well-Known Member

    eh:confused:. Yes it is! having a ticket/going to Glastonbury is surely absolutely guaranteed you will have a good time!

    Even if it shat it down with rain the entire time, my tent got robbed, and i had to spend a night in the medic tent through overindulgence, im sure i would still be able to have a blast :D
     
  28. Riff

    Riff B@nned from eGofestivals

    Anyone else receive their "ticket balance reminder" e-mail today? :)
     
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  29. colacubes

    colacubes Well-Known Member

    Yep :thumbs:
     
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  30. JTG

    JTG Angry about not being able to be an astronaut.

    It's not for everybody and I had a genuinely shit time in 2007. I've known other people give it a go and hate it
     

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