Glasgow School of Art on fire again (June 2018)

[teuchter]

I lived there for a number of years, that why I asked you to explain what you were on about.

There were only ever a handful of crossing points between the old and new towns because prior to the existence of the railway, the Nor'Loch occupied most of that area. Plus, before the new town was built there were some villages and Leith on the north side, and the crossing points represent roughly where road access to these places always was. In the case of North Bridge it is now somewhat elevated as the station occupies part of where the route to Leith was (iirc).

I know.

You seem to be advocating that if the railway wasn't there, prince's street gardens should be built upon,

No I'm not.

yet also arguing that railways shouldn't intrude into the centre of a town or city.

No I'm not.

Railways are part of a city, trying to bury them away because they offend your sensibilities in some way (aesthetically? Audibly?) is frankly a bit bizarre considering fuck all can be done about it in this day and age.

They don't offend my sensibilities and I don't want to bury them away.

ESPECIALLY ON A THREAD ABOUT THE GLASGOW SCHOOL OF ART FIRE - FUCK OFF TO THE TRANSPORT FORUM AND ARGUE ABOUT WHY YOU HATE TRAINS THERE FFS.

You started this bizarre argument and it looks like you want to argue about a load of stuff I've not even said. You seem determined to willfully misunderstand everything I write. Initially I just made the straightforward point that Edinburgh is unusual in the fact that the railway passes through the very centre of town at surface level. Get a grip.

 

[equationgirl]

I know.



No I'm not.



No I'm not.



They don't offend my sensibilities and I don't want to bury them away.



You started this bizarre argument and it looks like you want to argue about a load of stuff I've not even said. You seem determined to willfully misunderstand everything I write. Initially I just made the straightforward point that Edinburgh is unusual in the fact that the railway passes through the very centre of town at surface level. Get a grip.

I think you need to get a grip. You're the one who keeps moving goalposts and arguing bizarre things about railways. Transport Forum --------->

 

[equationgirl]

There are concerns that the east and west elevations may collapse without warning into the streets below. The exclusion cordon is still being enforced.

 

[equationgirl]

The fire has moved the facade by up to 6 inches in places; danger of collapse still present.

 

[Baronage-Phase]

There are concerns that the east and west elevations may collapse without warning into the streets below. The exclusion cordon is still being enforced.

The fire has moved the facade by up to 6 inches in places; danger of collapse still present.

 

[equationgirl]

BBC news website has an article with a trade body claiming that components for the fire suppression system had started to arrive on site, but that it would have still been weeks before the system was online.

 

[equationgirl]

Parts of the art school will be dismantled starting 2nd July.

Meanwhile, residents in the immediate vicinity have been told they may not be allowed back to their properties for three months.

 

[farmerbarleymow]

Parts of the art school will be dismantled starting 2nd July.

Meanwhile, residents in the immediate vicinity have been told they may not be allowed back to their properties for three months.

It's a shame it's going to be dismantled. Presumably it would cost an absolute fortune to reconstruct it from scratch.

It must be a nightmare for the neighbours not being allowed back home for so long. Makes you realise the risks of living in densely populated urban areas with lots of old buildings that are prone to fire. There are lots of Victorian mills near where I live, and the empty ones always have a risk of being torched.

 

[Fedayn]

It's a shame it's going to be dismantled. Presumably it would cost an absolute fortune to reconstruct it from scratch.

It must be a nightmare for the neighbours not being allowed back home for so long. Makes you realise the risks of living in densely populated urban areas with lots of old buildings that are prone to fire. There are lots of Victorian mills near where I live, and the empty ones always have a risk of being torched.

Not simply or cost possibly cost related but due may not to the possibility/likelihood of parts of the building collapsing without warning thus creating a safety hazard possibly life threatening.

 

[farmerbarleymow]

Not simply or cost possibly cost related but due may not to the possibility/likelihood of parts of the building collapsing without warning thus creating a safety hazard possibly life threatening.

That's the risk of densely built urban environments - if a building is gutted it will threaten those structures around it.

 

[danny la rouge]

Presumably it would cost an absolute fortune to reconstruct it from scratch

Sometimes the less expensive option is to start from scratch.

 

[equationgirl]

At present, there is no suggestion the remains of the building as left after the fire will be demolished completely. Parts of the east and west walls will be dismantled to mitigate the risk of collapse. This process may mean that parts of the North facade and the south rear wall may also need to be reduced in height, depending on what is found during the dismantling.

 

[equationgirl]

In related news, another Mackintosh building, the Hill House in Helensburgh, is about to undergo restoration work. A fire suppression system has been ruled out - it currently doesn't have one - on the basis that it would damage an already frail interior.

 

[teuchter]

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[equationgirl]

Dismantling will take a minimum of 8 weeks, each brick/stone needs to be carefully assessed before removal.

 

[teuchter]

Glasgow School of Art’s Mackintosh building, which was gutted by fire last month, will be rebuilt, the school’s director has told the Guardian.

The commitment by Tom Inns ends weeks of speculation about the fate of the 110-year-old building, after many experts raised fears that the scale of the blaze would make it impossible to rescue and rebuild it.

In his first interview since the fire, Inns said: “We’re going to rebuild the Mackintosh building. There’s been a huge amount of speculation about what should happen with the site and quite rightly so, but from our point of view and that of the city of Glasgow, it is critically important that the building comes back as the Mackintosh building.”

Mackintosh building will be rebuilt, says Glasgow School of Art director

There really should never have been any question that it be rebuilt.

 

[equationgirl]

teuchter true but see some of the posts in this thread that claimed rebuilding was about sentimentality. It isn't.