this is true, but the US has its own set of serious problems to deal with.Johnny Canuck2 said:
Glasgow airport attacked by Jeep on fire - 2 arrested
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Really? It was only in 1973 that the special position of the Catholic church was removed from the Irish constitution - to use an example close to home. Up until then the laws passed had to conform to the dogma of that church. It is not the only country where a Christian church received/still receives constitutional backing and/or finance.
The death of Jean Charles de Menezes was NOT the result of determination to make things worse though, was it? It was a tragic outcome from an attempt to make things better by detaining those who sought to kill innocent people.8ball said:
If, by suggesting it was determination to make things worse, you mean the police set out to kill him, believing he was a terrorist suspect, how do you explain the "executions" of the suspects at Glasgow? And Sandbach? And every other location at which terrorist suspects (many of them later convicted) have been detained, not only alive but with no significant use of force at all?
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Detroit City said:
Of course, but that isn't one of them.
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ZAMB said:
There are exceptions to most rules. I'm not familiar with the influence of the church in the republic of ireland pre 1973, but I'd expect that that position of special influence came about at least in part due to the religious underpinnings of the recent history of that country.
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ZAMB said:
I'm not sure which countries give constitutional backing to a christian church; which ones are they, and what does 'constitutional backing' consist of?
As for finances, churches here don't pay taxes, for example, but that applies equally to the Sikh religion, the Islamic religion, etc. in canada.
What is most memorable for me is that mulsim cleric (hook man) preaching race hate for ages around the Finsbury park mosque and was actually guarded by the police for a time. Freedom of speech and all that, in my eyes he was actually being allowed to pollute minds of young Muslims.
I distinctly remembering it taking an age to get rid of him. It appears he had a lavish house and the rest as well, correct me if i'm wrong but wasn't he fiddling benefits as well? (might have misread) .
Now picture two scenarios a) if i were to go to a predominately muslim country and do the same i'd be either killed or imprisoned. b) if i were to stand and preach race hate against Muslims at a Christian church here (i'm not Christian just an example) the law would come down on me with a massive iron fist for sure, and i would wager three times as fast. Or there would be riots.
Thats the problem in my eyes, to sensitive.
I distinctly remembering it taking an age to get rid of him. It appears he had a lavish house and the rest as well, correct me if i'm wrong but wasn't he fiddling benefits as well? (might have misread) .
Now picture two scenarios a) if i were to go to a predominately muslim country and do the same i'd be either killed or imprisoned. b) if i were to stand and preach race hate against Muslims at a Christian church here (i'm not Christian just an example) the law would come down on me with a massive iron fist for sure, and i would wager three times as fast. Or there would be riots.
Thats the problem in my eyes, to sensitive.
Johnny Canuck2 said:
It means different things in the constitutions of different countries. There are over a million links on Google on this topic - do your own searches, for goodness sake.
Here are a couple of links - you could also chck out the row over the new European constitution.
http://www.iheu.org/node/2584
http://www.answers.com/topic/status-of-religious-freedom-by-country
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ZAMB said:
Sorry, but I'm not going to run off and try to track down every half baked thing that you say.
If you want to aver something, give a link backing it up, or else don't bother saying it.
sleaterkinney
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For example, the US outlaws polygamy.
Johnny Canuck3
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sleaterkinney said:
... but has tended to turn a blind eye to those Mormon sects who secretly still practice it in the Utah outback.
even among the Mormons only the most radical have more than one wife. its hard enough to keep one woman happy....how the hell would you keep 6 wives happy?Johnny Canuck2 said:
Johnny Canuck3
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This PhD in a higly-relevant subject rather changes the plausibility of the "horror fireball bomb" stories...
NOTE: the person alleged to have been in the Jeep with him in Glasgow is now charged. Any speculation above on what he may or may not have done must be disregarded by the jury and no more may be made.
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laptop said:
But isn't one of them a neurologist?
The thought of engineers flipping out doesn't surprise me all that much.
Psychonaut
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sorry if this has been posted already, its a heart-warming story.
Hero Cabbie: I kicked burning terrorist so hard in the balls that i tore a tendon
Hero cabbie: Police took my good Nike trainers
Hero Cabbie: I kicked burning terrorist so hard in the balls that i tore a tendon
Hero cabbie: Police took my good Nike trainers
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One of the would-be mass murderers has just died of the burns he sustained in the jeep attack.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/glasgow_and_west/6928854.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/glasgow_and_west/6928854.stm
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Clearly silenced by MI5 working with mossad. All very very convenient.
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Is this what you mean?butchersapron said:
Ahmed, a doctor at the Royal Alexandra Hospital, Paisley, has been in a coma since the incident and most burns experts believe he is already effectively dead. But last week it emerged that special shark skin implants costing £20,000 were being used to treat his injuries.
A senior police source said: "It has been made very clear to the doctors by the 'powers that be' that they are to do anything and everything to keep Ahmed alive."
Another police insider said: "Obviously, MI5 is hoping they will be able to speak to Ahmed but the possibility of him ever being fit for interview is virtually nil. The one thing the authorities do not want is anything to exacerbate the situation and they believe the longer he lives, the calmer things will get."
A senior police source said: "It has been made very clear to the doctors by the 'powers that be' that they are to do anything and everything to keep Ahmed alive."
Another police insider said: "Obviously, MI5 is hoping they will be able to speak to Ahmed but the possibility of him ever being fit for interview is virtually nil. The one thing the authorities do not want is anything to exacerbate the situation and they believe the longer he lives, the calmer things will get."
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Nope
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