Get your piece of anti-expansion Heathrow land here

[laptop]

While we're thiking about 1970s Japanese precedents:

The farmers whose land was being CPOed for the airport built a wooden tower at the end of where the runway was going to be - as I remember it, my few square centimetres were under the tower.

Then they hauled vats of shit up the tower.

Then the riot police arrived to evict them...

 

[Hocus Eye.]

Just wait and see, now that Editor is a landowner he will start voting for Boris and walking around with a shotgun while wearing Wellington boots and cord trousers. But will he go for Barbour or Burberry I wonder, when he gets his jacket?

I suppose being an interested party in the land means that you get a say at any Compulsory Purchase enquiry. (Do they hold an equiry or does a minor clerk under threat of redundancy just use a rubber stamp?) The CP will go ahead of course but perhaps some publicity can be gained from the tactic.

Why we need to expand airports at a time when airlines are struggling to make a profit because of falling custom is a mystery to me. Smaller airlines are being gobbled up by larger ones and the whole green issue itself is causing people to cut down on flying. Meanwhile the world economy is failing. The business customers are not going to be there in any great numbers in the future. My money is on computer networking as the business tool to replace international air travel. It has been slow coming though. But the canals eventually gave way to rail.

 

[Idaho]

You wouldn't get the planning permission, it'd be blocked from above.

Of course - but the fact that there was planning in process must slow the process down.

 

[rocketman]

Ho-hum, by way of apol for unintended thread derail, I thought it worth saying, I'm now a landowner too. Sure it may not work, but if everyone does it then it's one hell of a petition!!!

 

[DownwardDog]

David Cameron has ruled it out anyway so the third runway is probably never going to happen.

 

[belboid]

the darned submit button doesnt seem to work

how irritating

 

[SpookyFrank]

While we're thiking about 1970s Japanese precedents:

The farmers whose land was being CPOed for the airport built a wooden tower at the end of where the runway was going to be - as I remember it, my few square centimetres were under the tower.

Then they hauled vats of shit up the tower.

Then the riot police arrived to evict them...

This is the kind of thinking we need

 

[belboid]

the darned submit button doesnt seem to work

good o, it did eventually. I hope being a landowner wont affect my dole

 

[wiskey]

There was a man a few years ago who sold off bits of his garden in 1ft sq plots to people all over the world to stop it getting built on. Dunno if he succeeded.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/152...ls-garden-plots-for-£1-to-thwart-council.html

 

[teuchter]

I have signed up but am not fully clear about what exactly it means to be a "beneficial owner".

They say they can only have four "legal owners". I wonder if they thought about splitting it up into hundreds of little pieces of land each a square centimetre in area and selling those off to people.

 

[geminisnake]

http://www.greenpeace.org.uk/blog/climate/join-plot-stop-airport-expansion-20090112

editor (landowner)

So where do you fly to NY from??

 

[untethered]

I have signed up but am not fully clear about what exactly it means to be a "beneficial owner".

They say they can only have four "legal owners". I wonder if they thought about splitting it up into hundreds of little pieces of land each a square centimetre in area and selling those off to people.

It's a trust. The "legal owners" (trustees) hold the property on behalf of and for the benefit of the beneficial owners and have a duty to maintain and improve it to the best of their ability.

It makes no difference to the title how many trustees or beneficiaries there are in a trust.

 

[Stoat Boy]

All very clever but if I understand recently there has been recent legislation passed which means that if a sale of land is deemed to be 'malicous' (not sure if thats the term ) then there can be a court order deeming it irrelevant and they can just ride rough shod over the individual claims.

But this is all very much based on me just glancing at something and might be all BS or me just getting the wrong end of the stick.

 

[Maggot]

So where do you fly to NY from??

He doesn't want to destroy Heathrow, just prevent it's expansion.

 

[geminisnake]

He doesn't want to destroy Heathrow, just prevent it's expansion.

But why? London is already a flight path. Just how much worse would another runway make things?

 

[Maggot]

But why? London is already a flight path. Just how much worse would another runway make things?

Much worse. We need to cut carbon emissions, not increase them. There are already too many planes flying over London, we don't need any more.

 

[free spirit]

http://www.greenpeace.org.uk/blog/climate/join-plot-stop-airport-expansion-20090112

editor (landowner)

which bit's yours then?

have we found a venue for the long rumoured urban 75 summer camp/festie?

 

[tufty79]

^^

i'll chip my bit in as well - then we might have 2 square centimeteres

bit like 'how many urbans can dance on the head of a pin'?

 

[free spirit]

But why? London is already a flight path. Just how much worse would another runway make things?

London would have no chance of not regularly breaching the EU air quality laws, which means for certain that people will die in significant numbers, and many more will suffer ill health. Also hundreds of thousands more people will suffer from significant additional noise pollution problems, which interferes with sleep patterns, affects mental health etc.

then there's climate change and the message it sends about whether this country is serious or not, and whether people will be inclined to take personal action on CO2 emissions when the government obviously doesn't give a shit.

 

[geminisnake]

London would have no chance of not regularly breaching the EU air quality laws, which means for certain that people will die in significant numbers, and many more will suffer ill health. Also hundreds of thousands more people will suffer from significant additional noise pollution problems, which interferes with sleep patterns, affects mental health etc.

then there's climate change and the message it sends about whether this country is serious or not, and whether people will be inclined to take personal action on CO2 emissions when the government obviously doesn't give a shit.

Thank you for that. I can see the point about air and noise pollution.
The govt AREN'T serious about CO2 imo but it doesn't stop me trying to do summat.(this does not however stop me occasionally flying )
Not in or out of Heathrow btw.

 

[glenquagmire]

Wahey. John McDonnell's just been thrown out of the Commons for a week over this.

 

[Frampton]

I feel vaguely smug to be a landowner. In fact it feels rather fine. As soon as I get the deeds I'm putting in a planning application to erect a 30ft black flag.

 

[Bakunin]

http://www.greenpeace.org.uk/blog/climate/join-plot-stop-airport-expansion-20090112

editor (landowner)

Done, and done.

 

[bluestreak]

received this from greenpeace today

Hey Airplotters,​

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Exciting things are afoot.​

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We're busy preparing the next phase of the Airplot, which will begin with a chilled-out, spring-themed launch event at the end of April, with a very exciting celebrity guest host.​

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It's amazing that we have 41,875 Airplotters signed up, but unfortunately that means there isn't room to invite all of you!​

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If you'd like a chance to come along for a nice day on the plot, here's what you have to do:​

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We'd like you to take a photo of yourself holding a sign saying ' I'm an Airplotter' in the most imaginative 'green space' you can think of. Whether that's a field, a forest, your bathroom or maybe Greenland, (if you can get there without flying) - surprise us.​

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Then, get it to us in one of two ways...​

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1. If you're on Facebook, add your photo to the photos for our 'Secret Airplot Spring Event' in the Airplot: Join the Plot to Stop Airport Expansion group.
2. If you're not on Facebook, upload your photo to the photo sharing website Flickr, and 'tag' it with the word airplotter. We'll grab all the photos tagged with that word. (If you don't have an account, you can sign up for one on hte Flickr homepagehttp://links.mailing.greenpeace.org...TYxMTQxNDE1NQS2&b=0&j=NDcyMzc0ODgS1&mt=1&rt=0 - it's free.) Make sure your photo is publicly visible, that you 'tag' it with the word airplotter, and that we can download it.

We'll need to receive your photos by the 22nd April, so you've got two weeks...​

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Our judges will pick the most imaginative photographers to come along to the very exciting launch day. We'll show you around, introduce you to the Airplot team, and you'll get to meet our top-secret celebrity guest host. You'll need to be able to get to London, and to have some time free in the week beginning the 27th April. If you can't make it this time, don't worry, there will be lots of other opportunities to get involved as the Airplot unfolds.​

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We're going to take all of the photos we get and use them in a snazzy video to show the government and BAA some of the many people who oppose the expansion of the airport.​

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Looking forward to seeing your photos... And we'll be in touch to let you know how it all goes.​

​

Christian
Greenpeace Webteam​

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So let me get this straight, I have to enter a competition to engage in some of direct action or political campaign on behalf of an organisation whose aims i signed up to help? stroll on. if i want to help and you ask me, i'll help, but asking me to compete to see who wants to help most of all is fucking so very facebook it's properly twattish. stroll on.

 

[kabbes]

"Stroll on" is even better than "jog on" as a dismissive comment, IMO. I'd not heard it before either. Well done.

 

[teuchter]

received this from greenpeace today



So let me get this straight, I have to enter a competition to engage in some of direct action or political campaign on behalf of an organisation whose aims i signed up to help? stroll on. if i want to help and you ask me, i'll help, but asking me to compete to see who wants to help most of all is fucking so very facebook it's properly twattish. stroll on.

I think it's healthy to introduce a bit of competition into the direct action marketplace. It will do wonders for efficiency.

 

[Bob_the_lost]

I think it's healthy to introduce a bit of competition into the direct action marketplace. It will do wonders for efficiency.

Direct action should be privatised.

 

[teuchter]

Direct action should be privatised.

At the very least, restructured and re-branded.

 

[Prince Rhyus]

Section 106 of http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2008/ukpga_20080029_en_8