Get Rich or Die Tryin'
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Louloubelle
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JoePolitix
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pootle said:Er What?If you had seen the film, it does actually give a very strong moral message that if you work hard, you'll get rewarded, and in that when Fiddy turns his back on the drug game, and the cartel controlled record labels, he gets his, which is a very positive message imho.
Oh, and do you really know that much about rap culture in the US (the whole is so diverse that I don't think a label such as "rap culture" is a really useful one anyway) because there are some elements of "rap culture" that have been a real force for good and for change in the US. Just look at Jay-Z and Kayne West after Hurricane Katrina....
Don't get me wrong I'm a huge hiphop fan, i actually DJ it and I know about the Mos Defs, Talib Qweles, Q Tips, Ded Prezs, Public Enemies etc of the scene not to mention the more underground acts. I acknowledged Kayne's take on hurrcane katrina in my initial post on this thread.
But the fact remains that the mainstream rap industry promotes Misogyny, gangsterism and materialism. 50 Cent is no exception. Crime and poverty are formost societal issues not individual problems and the mainstream record companies are tied to conglomerates that commit far worse crimes than the drugs cartels.
Im not really interested in fiddy's hypocritcal "moral message" given these factors.
Artie Fufkin
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there's a rumour of the sequel being called 'Get Rich Tie Dying' 
Louloubelle
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JoePolitix said:
I agree 100% about 50 cent and kanye, but 8 mile was such a great film
the message IMO showed how all the standard american phallic extensions (cars and guns) could go wrong, let you down and actually huirt you, like when cheddar joe shot himself in the groin with his own gun.
The film IMo showed the triumph of the pen, itself a phallic symbol but only when used with the brain, the ink flows from the end and the resulting words are more powerful than any gun.
Also at the end of the film rabbit goes back to work, even though he won the battle, I suppose understandinfg that the industry is hard and just because you win a rap battle doens't necessarily mean you;re suddenly rich over night.
Sorry to rant, I just loved 8 mile and thought it was subversive on some quite deep levels.
pootle
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JoePolitix said:
Ahh...I'll give you props in that case. You DO know what you're talking about, and hurrah! for you being a hip hop fan...I shan't point out that it's Talib Kweli..
You are right about the MAINSTREAM....that's why I had issue with the catch all "rap culture" label..
the clips they showed on film 2006 a few weeks back looked hysterical... the film was nicely shot, oddly enough, but the script, dialogue and acting was fantastically bad...
i imagine seeing it at the cinema might add somewhat to the experience - hopefully the seats will be filled with wannabe gangstas with their pants round their knees. they always make me smile...
i imagine seeing it at the cinema might add somewhat to the experience - hopefully the seats will be filled with wannabe gangstas with their pants round their knees. they always make me smile...
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