nino_savatte
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belboid said:
Aye, that's the feeling that I get.
George Galloway Debate
- Thread starter Udo Erasmus
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Aye, that's the feeling that I get.
nino_savatte
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Belushi said:
I remember the Paxman interview, not one of his finer moments.
cockneyrebel
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Paxman is a fuck wit though and that interview showed it.
What's so sad and sickening is that with the current level of class struggle those bastards in parliament can get away with almost anything.
What's so sad and sickening is that with the current level of class struggle those bastards in parliament can get away with almost anything.
cockneyrebel
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I think you're kinda missing the point. It's the establishment fitting someone up because they seem him as being too left and too much of a thorn in their side. Lets face it, whatever you think of him, what other MP asks questions from an anti-imperialist point of view?
glenquagmire
Rightwing NuLab apologist
Bit of a vague turn of phrase there, but I'd nominate Jeremy Corbyn, John McDonnell, Neil Gerrard and a few others.
KeyboardJockey
Clowns to the Left of me
cockneyrebel said:
LOL at the idea of Galloway being 'too left'.
Still at least he can spend more time with what he loves most - himself.
cockneyrebel
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The point is, it's not about defending Galloway, it's about the fact that the establishment is fitting someone up because, in their eyes, he is too left wing.
It's like saying that because I disagree with islamic fundamentalism then I'm not gonna care about some bloke getting six years for holding up a placard.
It's like saying that because I disagree with islamic fundamentalism then I'm not gonna care about some bloke getting six years for holding up a placard.
cockneyrebel
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They might make anti-war points, but they clearly don't make as starkly anti-imperialist speeches as Galloway. Can't remember any of them saying that they support the right of insurgents to resist US/UK troops for instance.
Chris Hitchens's reaction
http://www.slate.com/id/2170981/pagenum/all/#page_start
"I do not think that an 18-day suspension from the House of Commons is anything like enough punishment for what Galloway has done, first on behalf of a sadistic and genocidal megalomaniac and second to steal food and medicine from the mouths of desperate Iraqis."
"Just look at the gang that strove to prevent the United Nations from enforcing its library of resolutions on Saddam Hussein. Where are they now? Gerhard Schroeder, ex-chancellor of Germany, has gone straight to work for a Russian oil-and-gas consortium. Vladimir Putin, master of such consortia and their manipulation, is undisguised in his thirst to re-establish a one-party state. Jacques Chirac, who only avoided prosecution for corruption by getting himself immunized by re-election (and who had Saddam's sons as his personal guests while in office, and built Saddam Hussein a nuclear reactor while knowing what he wanted it for), is now undergoing some unpleasant interviews with the Paris police. So is his cynical understudy Dominique de Villepin, once the glamour-boy of the "European" school of diplomacy without force. What a crew! Galloway is the most sordid of this group because he managed to be a pimp for, as well as a prostitute of, one of the foulest dictatorships of modern times. But the taint of collusion and corruption extends much further than his pathetic figure, and one day, slowly but surely, we shall find out the whole disgusting thing."
http://www.slate.com/id/2170981/pagenum/all/#page_start
"I do not think that an 18-day suspension from the House of Commons is anything like enough punishment for what Galloway has done, first on behalf of a sadistic and genocidal megalomaniac and second to steal food and medicine from the mouths of desperate Iraqis."
"Just look at the gang that strove to prevent the United Nations from enforcing its library of resolutions on Saddam Hussein. Where are they now? Gerhard Schroeder, ex-chancellor of Germany, has gone straight to work for a Russian oil-and-gas consortium. Vladimir Putin, master of such consortia and their manipulation, is undisguised in his thirst to re-establish a one-party state. Jacques Chirac, who only avoided prosecution for corruption by getting himself immunized by re-election (and who had Saddam's sons as his personal guests while in office, and built Saddam Hussein a nuclear reactor while knowing what he wanted it for), is now undergoing some unpleasant interviews with the Paris police. So is his cynical understudy Dominique de Villepin, once the glamour-boy of the "European" school of diplomacy without force. What a crew! Galloway is the most sordid of this group because he managed to be a pimp for, as well as a prostitute of, one of the foulest dictatorships of modern times. But the taint of collusion and corruption extends much further than his pathetic figure, and one day, slowly but surely, we shall find out the whole disgusting thing."
KeyboardJockey
Clowns to the Left of me
cockneyrebel said:
But there are people in the house of commons who are far far more traditionally left wing than Galloway, Dennis Skinner for instance but Skinner isn't self serving divisive scum like Galloway. Galloways little 'project' has probably done a lot to increase islamophbia than almost any other political party by making it respectable (scuse pun) to have poltics based on race and religion because of the backlash that has ensued. For example the comments I heard about Respect when I was living in Dagenham were on the lines of 'well the muslims have got their party' (meaning respect) 'why can't we have ours?'
Wish Galloway would piss off to his Spanish villa and leave British poltics.
bluestreak
HomosexualityIsStalin’sAtomBombtoDestroyAmerica
can i take a middle ground on this one. on the one hand i see galloway as acareerist self-serving twat etc., on the other i watch as a bunch of other careerist self-serving twats stitch him up because he asks difficult questions and can't be cowed to the whip and the paymaster.
but i wouldn't have expected anything different. the establishment will protect its own through lies and smears and sanctions, through violence and shutdowns. it will do what it takes, to ensure that it, and the paymasters, capitalists, landlords, moguls and all that kibble, are not threatened.
if i was a believer in teh sanctity and morality of parliament i'd be shocked and disillusioned. but i'm not, so i'm not.
but i wouldn't have expected anything different. the establishment will protect its own through lies and smears and sanctions, through violence and shutdowns. it will do what it takes, to ensure that it, and the paymasters, capitalists, landlords, moguls and all that kibble, are not threatened.
if i was a believer in teh sanctity and morality of parliament i'd be shocked and disillusioned. but i'm not, so i'm not.
KeyboardJockey
Clowns to the Left of me
Simon B said:
Thats seriously unfair to pimps and prostitutes in my opinion.
jiggajagga
Judge_Mental
TAE said:An elected MP who is excluded from parliament was quite possibly being framed and you ask 'why am I supposed to give a fuck' !
I'm afraid that just about sums up modern society UK 2007 mate!
Too many walk through life in a daze of ringtones and tesco 'buy 1 get 1 free" rattling through their sieve-like minds.
God help us all if that is the total sum of political enquiry in the UK!
cockneyrebel
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Once again you're missing the point. The point is that a left figure is being fitted up by the establishment because he's anti-war and seen as left wing. What Galloway is actually like is almost irrelevant.
Skinner has also stayed within the sanctity of the Labour Party.
And that slimey, slobbering, pro-war shit can crawl back under the rock he came from. How he can say this while supporting Bush and Blair shows what a hyprocritical vile piece of slime he is. He really makes my skin crawl, a total creep. He reminds me of the office sneak or slimely bloke with no social skills who makes women's skin crawl.
He is bitter that Galloway has raked him over the coals so often and also of Galloway's perceived charisma and "gorgeous george" label while he sits like a slug or Golum like character who most people (even of the same political persuasion) have nothing but contempt for.
cockneyrebel
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He owns a second home in Portugal.
KeyboardJockey
Clowns to the Left of me
cockneyrebel said:
Up to a point I agree its a situation where a turd is attacking another turd.
KeyboardJockey
Clowns to the Left of me
cockneyrebel said:
Thank you for the correction I had the right part of europe but the wrong country.
nino_savatte
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Simon B said:
"Chris" Hitchens? You're that familiar with the gin-soaked auld pish heid?
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