General World Cup 2022 qualifiers thread

[Lord Camomile]

Guardian's dedicated live thread (with thanks to two sheds )

 

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Ireland are shite.

 

[Lord Camomile]

Meanwhile, it's half time in Europe. Germany and Poland are both 4-0 up at home to Armenia and away to San Marino respectively, while France are beating Georgia 3-0 at home.

 

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Guardian's dedicated live thread (with thanks to two sheds )

I hope they insist the game is completed! After all wales were expected to play with players isolating, and some refused VISAS to enter Russia. If we have to suffer then its only right that Argentina do to. Any other decision bring the integrity of the competition into disrepute.

 

[two sheds]

Brazil sees the UK as a coronavirus threat

 

[two sheds]

“As much as I disagree with most of what the Brazilian authorities have been doing, they are right in this,” says our Brazilian friend Mateus.

“When the Argentinian players based on England entered Brazil, they were required to quarantine, and were informed by authorities they should. When they went to the match, it became clear they had not complied with the quarantine rules, so the authorities went to the stadium to stop the match.

“As you mentioned before match, it was widely announced before the match, and the Brazilian authorities notify AFA. They thought they could get away with after the match had started.”

I do not agree that the rules should be followed but the fact this match started before they tried to carry out their orders is silly.

 

[two sheds]

Also from Guardian page:

A World Cup qualifier between Brazil and Argentina was halted just minutes after kick-off on Sunday after Brazilian health officials objected to the participation of three Argentine players they say broke quarantine rules.
Argentina walked off the pitch at the Corinthians arena after the officials entered the pitch to stop the game.
The players went to the dressing room, although the two coaches, along with Argentina captain Lionel Messi and Brazilian players, gathered at the side of the pitch a few moments later to discuss the stoppage.
It was not clear whether the game would continue.

The incident occurred just hours after Brazil*s health regulator Anvisa said four Argentine players must isolate and could not play in the match.
The three were among four Argentine players who play in England*s Premier League.

Under Brazilian rules visitors who have been in the UK in the 14 days before entering the country must quarantine for 14 days on arrival.
Brazil’s health regulator were tipped off the four did not state that information on their immigration forms and on Sunday said they confirmed the details given were “false”.

“Anvisa considers the situation a serious health risk and so has asked local health authorities to determine the immediate quarantine of the players, who are stopped from participating in any activity and should be prevented from remaining on Brazilian soil,” Anvisa said in a statement.

 

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“As much as I disagree with most of what the Brazilian authorities have been doing, they are right in this,” says our Brazilian friend Mateus.

“When the Argentinian players based on England entered Brazil, they were required to quarantine, and were informed by authorities they should. When they went to the match, it became clear they had not complied with the quarantine rules, so the authorities went to the stadium to stop the match.

“As you mentioned before match, it was widely announced before the match, and the Brazilian authorities notify AFA. They thought they could get away with after the match had started.”

I do not agree that the rules should be followed but the fact this match started before they tried to carry out their orders is silly.

So Argentina have played players that weren't eligible to play, the only sanction is disqualification, but they wont be!

 

[Lord Camomile]

So Argentina have played players that weren't eligible to play, the only sanction is disqualification, but they wont be!

Isn't forfeiting the match (and maybe some fines) the usual kind of sanction for fielding ineligible players?

 

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Isn't forfeiting the match (and maybe some fines) the usual kind of sanction for fielding ineligible players?

No, its disqualification.

 

[two sheds]

The Brazilian goalkeeper has just rifled in a goal and is celebrating in front of the fans. What a training session.


6m ago 21:20

So now I am watching a live feed of a training session on a Sunday night. What a life I have made for myself.


10m ago 21:16

On the upside, the Brazilian training session involves one of the goalkeepers playing in defence, so this could be fun.

 

[belboid]

No, its disqualification.

It isn’t. Articles 31 and 55 of the FIFA Disciplinary Code state clearly it’s a 3-0 forfeiture & fine.

 

[belboid]

Meanwhile Guinea v Morocco is off due to a coup attempt.

 

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It isn’t. Articles 31 and 55 of the FIFA Disciplinary Code state clearly it’s a 3-0 forfeiture & fine.

I was asked what is the USUAL sanction, and thats disqualification. Try playing an ineligible player in the FA Cup and see where it gets you.

 

[Lord Camomile]

I was asked what is the USUAL sanction, and thats disqualification. Try playing an ineligible player in the FA Cup and see where it gets you.

That's a cup match though, so if you forfeit the game you are defacto out of the competition.

Alongside being the FA, rather than FIFA.

 

[Lord Camomile]

Meanwhile Guinea v Morocco is off due to a coup attempt.

Fucking hell, things have escalated from the days of streakers and waterlogged pitches

 

[belboid]

I was asked what is the USUAL sanction, and thats disqualification. Try playing an ineligible player in the FA Cup and see where it gets you.

Well you’re wrong there too. In knockout competitions a 3-0 defeat means you’re out. Not to mention that this is played under fifa rules, not fa.

Celtic gained from the rule in 2014. They lost 2-0, 6-1 on aggregate, but Legia Warsaw has fielded an illegible player so were deemed to have lost 3-0. Celtic went through on away goals.

 

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That's a cup match though, so if you forfeit the game you are defacto out of the competition.

Alongside being the FA, rather than FIFA.

It depends who you are as well tho. Wales v Russia play off some years ago, Russian tests positive for drug use, no sanction, Russia go to Euros!

 

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Well you’re wrong there too. In knockout competitions a 3-0 defeat means you’re out. Not to mention that this is played under fifa rules, not fa.

Celtic gained from the rule in 2014. They lost 2-0, 6-1 on aggregate, but Legia Warsaw has fielded an illegible player so were deemed to have lost 3-0. Celtic went through on away goals.

Its irrelevant anyway, its Brazil and Argentina, there will be no sanctions.

 

[Lord Camomile]

It depends who you are as well tho. Wales v Russia play off some years ago, Russian tests positive for drug use, no sanction, Russia go to Euros!

Ok, so, again, not disqualification

 

[not-bono-ever]

So have in Ingerland won the WC yet ? They might as well abandon the tournament and fedex the trophy from Qatar to London now I reckon