General Dulwich Hamlet chat

Discussion in 'Dulwich Hamlet FC' started by editor, May 2, 2014.

  1. ForwardHamlet

    ForwardHamlet Well-Known Member

    Hi all,

    We've found some time to record another podcast. This episode includes:

    The end of our holiday in Morden and the return to CH
    A brief summary of the season so far
    The recent upturn in form
    A Torquay preview
    Transfer updates
    Anything else we've forgotten

    You can get the episode from wherever you get your podcasts from, or here:

    As always we're very keen for feedback and suggestions on what to cover in future episodes. Please let us know!

    Hope you enjoy,

    FTH x
  2. PartisanDulwich

    PartisanDulwich Well-Known Member

    Brilliant to have you back Forward The Hamlet podcast
    Don't ever make it a chore
    But really enjoy - so look forward to follow up

    Would welcome update on players in, community work with schools, charities, rabble songs and how we get more noise, update on clubhouse, possible terracing, fans meeting we held with Club, planning application (factual), Torquay away
    always love the stats

    But most of all thanks, can never get enough
    Last edited: Feb 21, 2019
  3. editor

    editor hiraethified

  4. jnrknight

    jnrknight James Knight

    Short piece on the precarious nature of football beyond the highest echelons of the game featuring ex-Dulwich player Francis Duku:

    Striking Back
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  5. B.I.G

    B.I.G Well-Known Member

    Ben Henderson in the Southwark news:

    “The outcome of this month’s relegation battle will have ramifications that go further than the football pitch. Hamlet’s attendance on Saturday was 3,243, a Champion Hill record. However, relegation will surely mean a smaller gate. Even attendances of 1,500, highly respectable in the Isthmian League, would be difficult to take for the club, when the corresponding reduction of revenue from the bar and merchandise sales is added to loss of ticket earnings.”

    Care to put a justification to the quote “relegation will surely mean a smaller gate?”
  6. pettyboy

    pettyboy Well-Known Member

    Would relegation mean a smaller gate? Personally, I really don't think that it would. If football was the main driver for the boom in crowds, then frankly we'd be better off relegated. We won a lot more regularly in the Isthmian Prem and the quality of football was much better.

    Either way, this is a bizarre take from Southwark News.
  7. Pink Panther

    Pink Panther Well-Known Member

    I can only think he's maybe taken one or two comments from an informal conversation with a club official out of context, or looked at the difference between our attendance figures before and after the ten months in exile either side of our promotion, and jumped to conclusions. Our average attendance in the Isthmian before we were evicted was around 1,500 and we all thought that was amazing at the time. I don't think anyone expected that average to leap to well over 2,500 in the eight or so matches since we returned, and I don't think it would now suddenly plummet back to 1,500 again especially if we were winning most games and challenging for promotion as was the case in the last eight seasons. Even if it did we'd still be comfortably the best supported club in the Isthmian even though attendances there seem to be increasing impressively across the board, with Worthing now pulling 800-1,000 at most games.
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  8. pompeydunc

    pompeydunc Well-Known Member

    IMO, the additional fans have been attracted by, in order of importance:

    - The very fact we were evicted, and the exposure this provided...but I wouldn't recommend this to other clubs!
    - Our new found ability to serve beer in enough locations and quickly enough to keep people sated, and enough toilets to deal with the result.
    - The higher league

    Relegation would have an impact; but I wouldn't expect to go back to 1500, except for perhaps bad weather, August and midweek games. I don't see any reason why the nouveau-nouveau-nouveau 2019 fans would decide not to come because we are playing Leatherhead instead of Concord Rangers?!
    Last edited: Apr 10, 2019
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  9. Nivag

    Nivag Well-Known Member

  10. Pink Panther

    Pink Panther Well-Known Member

    Why not? I think he lives at Streatham these days.

    (I'd draw the line at Piers Morgan though.)
  11. Nivag

    Nivag Well-Known Member

    I didn't realise he lived there. I've only ever read he was a Celtic supporter and never mentioned any other club.
  12. ForwardHamlet

    ForwardHamlet Well-Known Member

    Long shot but can anyone name any faces in this pic??

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  13. EDC

    EDC A Slightly Less Invisible Cyber Fan These Days

    Mishi, over by the back wall.
  14. Dulwich Mishi

    Dulwich Mishi Old Skool Terrace Dinosaur-embracing the new-veau!

    At least I got a ticket... you were asking for any spares outside!
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  15. MrFab_JP

    MrFab_JP Member

    Looks like the Shining
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  16. Cyclodunc

    Cyclodunc Where's the slam tent, mate?

    Was going to say the same!

    All work and no play...
  17. Pink Panther

    Pink Panther Well-Known Member

    Steve Dye Sr looking straight at the camera in the bottom left corner.
  18. Son of Roy

    Son of Roy Really?

    Pa Wilson with the moustache. With a load of hipsters!
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  19. Son of Roy

    Son of Roy Really?

    With Havant, Aldershot, Braintree and Maidstone relegated and Dorking +1 promoted it will be interesting next season in the National league south. East Thurrock who beat us in the Isthmian League playoff final may be relegated? Bognor and Margate are outside the playoff places so it's a dissapointing season for them.
    Last edited: Apr 15, 2019
  20. Noss

    Noss Well-Known Member

    I assuming that two teams currently in South will find themselves in North next season, maybe Oxford and Gloucester? Depends on your definition of North I suppose - Braintree is actually closer to the Artic Circle than Oxford but can't see them leaving South
  21. Noss

    Noss Well-Known Member

    And in terms of promotion, looks like Weymouth will join Dorking (5 points clear, three to play) and the third spot will come from the 'super play off' position which currently includes Met Police, Taunton, Salisbury and Poole from Evo-stik and Worthing, Haringey, Carshalton and Tonbridge from Isthmian. Taunton sounds like a fair swap for Weston, assuming we stay up :)
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  22. Jimbob73

    Jimbob73 The Wanley Road Massive

    Anyone know when the club normal announce season tickets for next year and also costs?
    I need to budget accordingly as I doubt we will get another £125 bargain like this year.
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  23. Dulwich Mishi

    Dulwich Mishi Old Skool Terrace Dinosaur-embracing the new-veau!

    I hear they are being sorted out this week, 21 home games in National League South, 23 in Isthmian Premier.
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  24. Pink Panther

    Pink Panther Well-Known Member

    Leatherhead, Merstham, Bishop's Stortford and Folkestone are all within 3 points of the Isthmian play-off places so the list goes well beyond those teams listed, and the recent form guide suggests one or two of those may be involved:

    Bostik League Premier Division | Form Guide

    In the Southern League it's more cut and dried with only King's Langley (near Watford) having a realistic chance of gatecrashing the top five. I've been to Taunton a couple of times for cricket, and whilst the cricket ground is nice with an excellent pub (The Ring O' Bells) just around the corner it's not a town I'd be rushing to revisit. Salisbury is a decent trip although the ground is a long way out of town; a few of us went there for a Capital league (Reserves) match around 12 years ago. I've never been to Poole. As for Met Police - well, I like to have one or two weekends away up north during the season so the date of that fixture always makes it easy to plan one of those!
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  25. Cat Daisy

    Cat Daisy Active Member

    Poole's ground - unless it has massively changed in the last couple of seasons - is very basic. Even at Step 3 it left a lot to be desired. KIngs Langley's ground is a bit better and has a "club DJ" - if we play there, he will probably be on this forum ahead of the game asking for (musical) requests. The ground is a bit of a hike from any station (although the walk along the canal to get there is an option if the weather is good). Weymouth's ground (even though they keep talking about wanting to move again) is quite modern with a main stand that has a good view of the pitch. Also it is a bit of a hike from the station but at least there's a beach to visit!
  26. Dulwich Mishi

    Dulwich Mishi Old Skool Terrace Dinosaur-embracing the new-veau!

    The Weymouth ground is a much longer walk than Kings Langley. Weymouth by far the better ground, a fairly modern one.
  27. Pink Panther

    Pink Panther Well-Known Member

    Poole were in the National South until last season, when they went down. A couple of seasons ago they qualified for the play-offs along with Hungerford, but both were barred from competing due to their grounds being short of the minimum requirements for promotion.
  28. editor

    editor hiraethified

    I like grounds that fall short of the minimum requirements for promotion :)
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  29. Dulwich Mishi

    Dulwich Mishi Old Skool Terrace Dinosaur-embracing the new-veau!

    In which case why harp on about why we need a much bigger ground when we move next door?:D
  30. editor

    editor hiraethified

    Because I like visiting small grounds where I can easily choose a convenient viewpoint for watching the game. That's not possible at Hamlet and that's why we need a bigger ground. SImples.

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