Geldof cancels Italy concerts after low turnout

[TeeJay]

Funny coincidence that you hopped across from the other thread to snipe at me here rather than respond to my posts on there.

You are correct - it is a coincidence. At 1.30am there are only a few active threads so the chances of this are very high, as I am browsing "New Posts". You seem to dislike 'telepathy' - so how you claim to know why I 'hopped across' to this thread (I simply browsed New Posts) and why you claim to know that I came to this thread to snipe at you (whereas in reality until I read this thread I didn't even know you had posted in it), I do not know.

As for 'Any chance you plan to actually engage with the argument...' ... it seems that you are the one stalking me, by "following" me here to discuss something from another thread. If I have anything to say about that I will say it in the other thread, and will do so when I feel like it.

 

[In Bloom]

As for 'Any chance you plan to actually engage with the argument...' ... it seems that you are the one stalking me, by "following" me here to discuss something from another thread. If I have anything to say about that I will say it in the other thread, and will do so when I feel like it.

Actually, I was talking about the topic of this thread, you know, the one you stormed in on and started throwing insults about on without actually bothering to engage with the subject at all.

 

[Julie]

I don't mind Bob Geldof. He seems genuine regarding ridding the world of poverty, but I'm sure he's got a healthy ego. Don't all performers?

As for his music though... erm..... bleugh

 

[TeeJay]

You want some kind of intelligent analysis of this, your first post:

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Erm...

...sorry I can't think of anything to say about that.

 

[In Bloom]

You want some kind of intelligent analysis of this, your first post:Erm...

...sorry I can't think of anything to say about that.

Yep, because that was my only post on the topic of this thread, wasn't it?

And yet people are still starving and most of the money goes to some lard arse executives milking the third sector cash cow for all it's worth. Sorry, how is this helping the "third world" again?

In any case, there's fuck all I can do. Just like there's fuck all Geldof can do. At least I admit it.

 

[TeeJay]

The fact that hunger and disease has not been eliminated from the world does not mean that the work of NGOs and charities does not good whatsoever. In fact their actions save a lot of lives and help a lot of people avoid a lot of misery. It might be second best to proper government action and widespread reforms but it is something that private individuals can contribute independently from government. More recently Live8 and MPH have addressed a range of political issues and asked for political pressure and engagement not for more money. You seem to suffer from the sectarian disease of claiming that anyone who doesn't subscribe to your exact political position on anything is automatically useless and won't achieve anything.

While it might be true in your view that your preferred solution (global class-struggle anarchist revolution maybe?) is best, this doesn't mean that anything that isn't equally radical doesn't actually impact positively on people's lives and will do an immense amount of good in the world while people wait around for you to launch your revolutionary front.

Frankly though if your speeches to mobilse your cadres are as negative nit-picking and bitchy as your posts here about anyone else who actually does stuff then I don't hold much hope for you inspiring the masses to take up arms for your cause.

 

[twistedAM]

but surely the point is that geldof's music is a pile of pish

would anyone on here pay money to hear him sing?

 

[pk]

Can't blame the Italians for not wanting to pay for the dubious honour of having Geldof roar at them, but on the face of it Geldof has done more for global equality than a million 'anarchists' have ever achieved or ever will.

That's why they all hate him.

 

[fishfingerer]

More recently Live8 and MPH have addressed a range of political issues and asked for political pressure and engagement not for more money.

But what sort of political pressure and engagement? Geldof's big idea is that people should vote for someone else if the government doesn't tackle global poverty. Is that not laughable? He was gobbling canapes on a yacht with Blair and Putin while people were getting gassed and battered in Genoa and then had the nerve to condemn them for attempting to apply a bit of political pressure and engagement.

 

[pk]

But what sort of political pressure and engagement? Geldof's big idea is that people should vote for someone else if the government doesn't tackle global poverty. Is that not laughable? He was gobbling canapes on a yacht with Blair and Putin while people were getting gassed and battered in Genoa and then had the nerve to condemn them for attempting to apply a bit of political pressure and engagement.

Political pressure, translated as spraying @ logos on war memorials?

Intellectualise it all you like, but Geldof has done more to politicise young people in this country and many others than anyone else, and I for one am glad he doesn't align himself with a transparent and evasive sectarian political ideology that had all but died out before Che Guevara was ever considered cool.

Mind you, that Bono's a bit of a bollocks, with all his sucking up to the pope and the Catholic Church's insistance that contraception is sinful on one hand, then pleading with people to tackle the African AIDS issue on the other...

 

[fishfingerer]

Political pressure, translated as spraying @ logos on war memorials?

If only they'd wear (sweatshop produced) wristbands instead.

Intellectualise it all you like, but Geldof has done more to politicise young people in this country and many others than anyone else, and I for one am glad he doesn't align himself with a transparent and evasive sectarian political ideology that had all but died out before Che Guevara was ever considered cool.

What I'd like to know is, who has he politicised, in what way, and what have they achieved.

Mind you, that Bono's a bit of a bollocks, with all his sucking up to the pope and the Catholic Church's insistance that contraception is sinful on one hand, then pleading with people to tackle the African AIDS issue on the other...

I concur.

 

[pk]

If only they'd wear (sweatshop produced) wristbands instead.

I'd like to see evidence that the official MPH wristbands were produced in sweatshops, because I don't believe a word of that!

What I'd like to know is, who has he politicised, in what way, and what have they achieved.

Let me put it another way - can you name one other person who has publicised the grave unfairness of the global economic system to the detriment of the Third World more than Geldof has?

 

[pk]

NGOs and charities are largely completely useless.

Not as useless as you are clueless though, it must be said.

 

[fishfingerer]

I'd like to see evidence that the official MPH wristbands were produced in sweatshops, because I don't believe a word of that!

http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=12464

Let me put it another way - can you name one other person who has publicised the grave unfairness of the global economic system to the detriment of the Third World more than Geldof has?

Sub Commandante Marcos, Ken Saro Wiwa, and Naomi Klein I suppose would be amongst the most famous examples of specific individuals who may have genuinely politicised people. Then there's a host of other less well known individuals throughout the world who have been toiling away for years on global justice issues without celebrity status, oodles of cash or the patronage of our leaders.

 

[pk]

Sub Commandante Marcos, Ken Saro Wiwa, and Naomi Klein

Nice try, but you're not even close. The average Brit kid knows none of the above - yet they'll have heard of Geldof and his stop poverty concerts.

 

[Jambooboo]

Nice try, but you're not even close. The average Brit kid knows none of the above - yet they'll have heard of Geldof and his stop poverty concerts.

Because Geldof is a self-publicist.

 

[fishfingerer]

Nice try, but you're not even close. The average Brit kid knows none of the above - yet they'll have heard of Geldof and his stop poverty concerts.

Maybe, maybe not, but how have they been politicised as a result of MPH? And what do they think of Geldof's grand plan to force our leaders to deal with poverty; ie people should simply vote for someone else. The great and good must be laughing their arses off at him behind his back the stupid fucking mug.

I'm with St.Augustine - charity is bollocks.

 

[lights.out.london]

What was it Lou Reed said on the New York album?

"Another rock singer who has a direct line to God? ", or similar. Reed was singing about Bono, I believe.

The Rats were a mediocre punk band. Oops. Sorry. New Wave band. Very average both in the studio and live. A couple of songs that they all eventuallly learned to play in the same key.

45 out of 12,000? He needs a word with his management company and tour promoter.

His charity work? It's a dirty job and I'm not sure anyone has to do it.

 

[fishfingerer]

The Rats were a mediocre punk band. Oops. Sorry. New Wave band. Very average both in the studio and live. A couple of songs that they all eventuallly learned to play in the same key.

He claimed recently that they were in the top 10 groups of that era. (!)

 

[lights.out.london]

He claimed recently that they were in the top 10 groups of that era. (!)

Really? Then Bob has been smoking Paula's stash.

Boomtown Rats? Top ten? LMAO. Made my day. Thanks for the giggle!

 

[hammerntongues]

Really? Then Bob has been smoking Paula's stash.

Boomtown Rats? Top ten? LMAO. Made my day. Thanks for the giggle!

By record sales he is probably right , records sales usually = popularity.
I saw the Rats in the very very early days , they rode in on the wave of Punk and quickly moved MOR , there were a lot shittier bands trying to do the same thing and what they did they did well.

I`ve heard him do a not bad version of The Redemption Song that is the best I can say about his music post Rats

 

[Hi-ASL]

"M-m-m-Mary of the 4th form".

He was into schoolies.

They were pretty good though.

 

[Hi-ASL]

Top 10 punk bands:

1. The Clash!!!
2. The Sex Pistols
3. Buzzcocks
4. The Ruts

Erm.. that's it really.

 

[bluestreak]

i quite liked the rats, and like i said i think his heart is in the right place but i don't think it's helped. in fact the whole MPH thing doesn't seem to ahve made much difference at all. pk's points about awareness can stand, but when it comes down to it no-one seems to give a shit anyway. the only people who gained from MPH are the bands who played at live8. where's all the money gone - has it been spent wisely or pissed away?

has anyone actually met anyone, anywhere, who has become politicised because of live8?

 

[lights.out.london]

Top 10 punk bands:

1. The Clash!!!
2. The Sex Pistols
3. Buzzcocks
4. The Ruts

Erm.. that's it really.

1. Black Flag
2. The Clash
3. Agnostic Front
4. Buzzcocks
5. The Ramones

 

[Neva]

Aren't the Dead Kennedys punk anymore

 

[Hi-ASL]

1. Black Flag
2. The Clash
3. Agnostic Front
4. Buzzcocks
5. The Ramones

Top 10 punk bands:

1. The Clash!!!
2. The Sex Pistols
3. Buzzcocks
4. The Ruts
5. The Ramones
6. The Dead Kennedys
7. The Damned (for the kiddies).

We're slowly approaching that ultimate list.

And Bob's yet to get a mention.

 

[lights.out.london]

Aren't the Dead Kennedys punk anymore

Indeedy deed. But I only picked 5. The DKs would have been my #6 or there abouts. I lost a lot of respect for them as men after all the court cases over royalty payments. Not that they lost any sleep over my opinion!

 

[lights.out.london]

6. Dead Kennedys
7. Husker Du
8. GBH
9. Discharge
10. The Exploited

 

[Neva]

Indeedy deed. But I only picked 5. The DKs would have been my #6 or there abouts. I lost a lot of respect for them as men after all the court cases over royalty payments. Not that they lost any sleep over my opinion!

I've never listened to much Black Flag and they're number #1 on your pretty damn fine list so I guess I'll go give them a listen. Any stand-out tracks?