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Gears of War

The Groke

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I know this has been discussed a bit on my last Xbox game thread, but it is probably worth a thread of its own now a few of us have the game.

I have played probably 20 minutes, and my initial thoughts are:

"oh"


Really not convinced at the moment.


The graphics are Ok I suppose if you like grey.

Character models are decent if blisteringly cliched - especially the player models

The combat is annoyingly confusing - I find myself shooting my own guys more often than not.

The combat also seems to suffer from Halo syndrome - ie, enemies that require 300 bullets in them before they die, which is frankly boring.
Locational damage with the default weapons seems to be non existant, which is pretty unforgivable for a next gen game - a head shot is a head shot and should be rewarded as such. Equally, arm shots should disarm (ha-ha) your opponents etc.

I cannot get the chainsaw to work properly - there seems to be no enjoyable skill to it, you just seem to have to stab at the red button and then either watch as the canned animation takes over and you shred your opponent, or - more often than not - they hit you in the face and you die.

The cover system is Ok in parts - certainly leaping from cover to cover seems fun enough to start with, but it becomes annoying when you find out that the cover system really is very basic.

Your cannot pin your enemies down with fire - they pop their heads up and spray you with unnerringly accurate fire regardless of whether you are already peppering their cover and their exposed soft bits with bullets, and they will happily run towards you taking fire and hitting you back at the same time which is not what I really expected from the game.

So um - yeah.

I will keep playing and see what happens, but on first look, I can't say I would enthusiastically recommend it to anyone.

:confused:

(oh and: the blood that sprays off you when you are getting hit looks rubbish - like cartoon blood with wierd black bits to it.)
 
I have now dropped the difficulty from "hardcore" (i.e medium) to "casual" (i.e. I am a pussy) and shooting the guys is slightly less tedious but still......

I am really not convinced by this cover thing - everyone still just runs around willy-nilly shooting like in every other shoot em up.

I have to say I was expecting something along the lines of an straight sci-fi action shooter, crossed with that XBox/PC tactical shooter set in a fictional "Desert storm" style environment, the name of which I forget!

I anticipated working slowly up and through environments, with team members flanking and surpressing the enemy to allow you to effectively move closer without taking damage etc and I have seen no evidence of this so far.

The AI is really basic and unrealistic - a particular bit just a few seconds ago made me laugh and sigh in equal measures:

I was taking cover behind a low wall in such a way that I could pop up clear to take a shot and then pop back into cover again.

My target was a mounted enemy gun enplacement, "manned" by a baddie which I had flanked on his right hand side.

He was firing down at my colleagues ie to my left hand side as I faced him, but every time I popped my head up for a shot, he would instantaneously forget my colleagues and swivel 90 degrees to face me and start firing. I mean instantly like we were connected via a piece of string. I spent an amusing 30 seconds popping up and down as quickly as possible to watch him flick back and forwards like he was having seisure in time with my movements - pretty pathetic really.

:(

I really want to like this game - not least because I have just spent 40 quid on it - but I am finding it difficult so far.

I am quite surprised that IGN gave it such a high score - I normally trust their reviews.

I will give it another 20 minutes and then go back to Guitar Hero on my PS2!
 
Sounds pretty meh. Still not a reason to buy a 360. Think I'll wait for halo3 :)
Oh, and I prefer www.eurogamer.net for reviews - they're more cynical and jaded.
 
I read the review with the ridiculously huge score on Gamespot and thought that it sounded like a vanilla FPS on the pc. No review for a FPS on the pc would get that kind of score with the shite AI etc that GoW has.

I know I sound like I'm slagging the 360 off but it's horses for courses innit and the reviews for GoW seem to be saying "Woooha! It's a good looking shooter for the 360, sure it's got some major flaws but hey, just look at it".
 
Bob Marleys Dad said:
I read the review with the ridiculously huge score on Gamespot and thought that it sounded like a vanilla FPS on the pc. No review for a FPS on the pc would get that kind of score with the shite AI etc that GoW has.

Except that it is a 3rd person shooter.... ;)

It had potential though - if the squad and cover mechanics were integrated in a more enjoyable, useful and tactical way, it could have been a real classic.

The more I play, the more I am enjoying the engine and the graphics - it is pretty solid and could have been the backbone for a a great game.

Bob Marleys Dad said:
I know I sound like I'm slagging the 360 off but it's horses for courses innit and the reviews for GoW seem to be saying "Woooha! It's a good looking shooter for the 360, sure it's got some major flaws but hey, just look at it".

I know what you mean - I love my 360, but this is not a system seller or a killer app.

THing is - on the subject of FPS games - is that us old school PC gamers have been spoiled.

For example, I never understood the fuss about Halo - it is utterly, utterly average in every respect: story, engine, gameplay mechanics, multi-player etc etc.

It caused a storm on the XBox because it was head and shoulders above any other FPS available on a console, but for someone who has been playing every significant FPS on the PC since Wolfenstein 3D, it is bafflingly mediocre.

Anyway, I am still playing out of bloody mindedness, but I can feel Guitar Hero calling me back......


My final verdict?

If you must play it, then rent or copy it - it is not worth the money for the single player game; DON'T BELEIVE THE HYPE!

I would even be skeptical of Eurogamers 8/10 review - take away the shiny graphics and you have a completely average and unspectacular 5/10 game.


I will report back on the multiplayer if and when I get around to it!
 
The Groke said:
THing is - on the subject of FPS games - is that us old school PC gamers have been spoiled.

For example, I never understood the fuss about Halo - it is utterly, utterly average in every respect: story, engine, gameplay mechanics, multi-player etc etc.

It caused a storm on the XBox because it was head and shoulders above any other FPS available on a console, but for someone who has been playing every significant FPS on the PC since Wolfenstein 3D, it is bafflingly mediocre.

Completely agree mate, in fact I wrote that about Halo in my first post then thought it just looked like I was bashing consoles and so deleted it.

I've never come across a shooter on a console that was as good as a pc shooter in every respect, the closest was probably RE4 on the GC but even then the fact that I had to use a joypad meant that it wasn't as good as it could have been, I mean show me someone who uses a joypad for a pc shooter...!
 
Jambooboo said:
You just need to play it some more MrTeflon.

;)


:mad:


I have just been involved in the same circular argument on the IGN boards....

Mind you, the average level of discourse and intelligence over there is somewhat less than I have become accustomed to here.
 
The Groke said:
:mad:


I have just been involved in the same circular argument on the IGN boards....

Mind you, the average level of discourse and intelligence over there is somewhat less than I have become accustomed to here.

Hehe. I read through reader reviews and spotted one that sounded familiar.

Haven't read through the forums yet though.
 
la la la - la la la...etc....etc... (trying not to listen)

I will love Gears of War, I will love Gears of War, Please let me love Gears of War :(
 
Bob Marleys Dad said:
Completely agree mate, in fact I wrote that about Halo in my first post then thought it just looked like I was bashing consoles and so deleted it.

I've never come across a shooter on a console that was as good as a pc shooter in every respect, the closest was probably RE4 on the GC but even then the fact that I had to use a joypad meant that it wasn't as good as it could have been, I mean show me someone who uses a joypad for a pc shooter...!

Goldeneye, released for the N64 in September 97, was (and to this day often is) better than any FPS on the PC. Only one which really worked on a joypad.
 
This game exceeded my expectations somewhat. Its an excellent 3rd person shooter.

Have you played it co-op yet groke? for me thats where the game really shines and the multiplayer is fun too.

MY main criticism is that its too short, weighing in at about 8 hours on hardcore difficulty.
 
Strawman said:
This game exceeded my expectations somewhat. Its an excellent 3rd person shooter.

Have you played it co-op yet groke? for me thats where the game really shines and the multiplayer is fun too.

MY main criticism is that its too short, weighing in at about 8 hours on hardcore difficulty.

I'm still only on act three on casual.

:o

Had a few multiplayer games which is fun, but haven't played co-op yet. Perhaps I will as enemy AI seems a hell of a lot better than that of the teams.
 
thedyslexic1 said:
lol

I have only see image not played as yet. But the images I have seen I did think wow.

rumored (PC)

I have been a little harsh actually - it does look very pretty, but it is pretty simple and uninspiring really. I have not really felt that compelled to play it much more and I am just about half-way through.

Can't wait for Zelda......
 
Groke> my gamertag is strawmanogs, if you fancy some help with coop im always up for it, although casual will be way too easy, insane is where its at ;)
 
Strawman said:
Groke> my gamertag is strawmanogs, if you fancy some help with coop im always up for it, although casual will be way too easy, insane is where its at ;)

I am playing through on Hardcore - not unlocked insane yet!

I would love to take you up on yer offer, but I fear that the latency between Dubai and the UK, would make it more than a little trying...
 
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