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niclas

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Get yourselves down to Trebanos - 12 protesters sitting in the pipes and on diggers, stopping construction on the 120-mile pipeline.

Good points made by campaigners about the Liquid Natural Gas being a finite fossil fuel and the lack of democracy among local councils.

Brief report on Seren
 
Good news, people may be interested in this event:

Beyond Oil at BEYOND TV
international films: climate change and fossil fuel futures
Monday November 27th (18:30-late)

The Dylan Thomas Centre,
Swansea Marina SA1 1RR Box Office 01792 463980

Hosted by Ian Williams of Plan B
Entry £4/ £3concession/£1.50 for low carbon transport (pay on door)
(Ticket also Includes free entry into the Beyond TV Party (Friday) before 21:00)

Beyond Oil: International films & chat about climate change & end of the oil age.

Short films
Shell closed (5mins)
Activists transform a Shell station to highlight climate change. (6mins)

Saro-Wiwa (5mins)
Poet Ken Saro-Wiwa and eight others were murdered in 1996 because of their non-violent opposition to Shell's oil extraction operations and gas flaring.

Oil way to Hell watch online (1min)
Animation on peak energy

Reviews
Amazon Oil Pipeline - Pollution, Corruption and Poverty (8mins)
Voices from the Amazon.
Our Oil and Other Tales (10mins)
Revolutionary stories from Venezuela
Pumping Poverty; Asume Osuoka from Nigeria (4mins)
Friends of the Earth film clip exposes the humanitarian aid money taken by Shell, Nigeria.

Features
Those Who Dance (30mins)
Tells the story of a small community in Rossport, Co. Mayo, Ireland, who have resisted Shell's attempts to construct a high pressure gas pipeline and refinery across their land, which would have potentially devastating environmental and social consequences. The film compares their situation to that of the Ogoni people of the Niger Delta, championed by Ken Saro-Wiwa. Watch a short video giving an outline of the situation in Co. Mayo.

The Power of Community – How Cuba Survived Peak Oil (35mins)
Documents Cuba’s emergency transition to local organic agriculture, renewable energy, and large-scale mass transit. The transition occurred following the Soviet collapse in 1990, when Cuba underwent the loss of over half of its oil imports and survived the transition.details
 
walking into uni, heard on teh radio construction had stopped due to 14 protesters getting INSIDE the pipes. crazy
 
Has the guy (Redstar I think) who was posting up threads about this been involved?
Any plans for solidarity actions across Wales to involve people in the campaign who might not be able to get down to Trebanos. Given the scale of development it would seem good to have protests in every major town in South Wales to publicise opposition and also maybe for people who have work/other commitments to try and get down to Trebanos at the weekend for a mass protest.
 
 
How many of you lot are planning to stop using gas / (or electricity during the Corrie commercial break) any time soon ?

(country-dwellers with a cheap wood supply and Agas need not reply :p )
 
gentlegreen said:
How many of you lot are planning to stop using gas / (or electricity during the Corrie commercial break) any time soon ?

(country-dwellers with a cheap wood supply and Agas need not reply :p )
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i used to live within 100m of a major gas pipeline.

we didn`t have gas and the company refused to connect us.
 
gentlegreen said:
How many of you lot are planning to stop using gas / (or electricity during the Corrie commercial break) any time soon ?

(country-dwellers with a cheap wood supply and Agas need not reply :p )
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This nonsense was addressed on a previous thread.

Tidal lagoons on the River Severn could provide electricity cheaply, safely, and cleanly. (some comentators claim up to 20% of the UKs energy could be supplied by harnessing the power of the Severn)

A combination of off-shore windfarms, tidal power and solar power is needed not more fossil fuels which are destroying the planet
 
M x C x theta = V x I x T = M x G x H

mean anything ?

Just a test - I'll let anyone off who doesn't understand - I bet you'd have difficulty finding a government minister with O level general science.
 
I have just finished speaking to Red Jim and the mood in the camp is pretty positive.Ira the landowner has been told by National Quid that if she doesnt ask the protesters to leave she will face costs from £50-80,000.She has told the press that she will ask the protesters to leave, but she has not so far.
Anyone wishing to join the camp is welcome to.If others want to organise any solidarity action please feel free.

I am heading up there tomorrow with fresh supplies.There is a meeting in the Trebanos rugby club there will be speakers from Ireland who are involved in the Shell to Sea campaign.Anyone who can make it will be welcome.
 
money talks - as i said before in a thread on this ages ago - the landowners are all in agreement with the proposals and are being well compensated. But, yet again other people have to stick their noses in and make life difficult. Protesting against something over which the landowner and therefore the affected party is happy about really does seem like a massive waste of time!
 
waterloowelshy said:
money talks - as i said before in a thread on this ages ago - the landowners are all in agreement with the proposals and are being well compensated. But, yet again other people have to stick their noses in and make life difficult. Protesting against something over which the landowner and therefore the affected party is happy about really does seem like a massive waste of time!
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From what people are saying on here, though, the landowner's not too chuffed about the piepline, and feel like she's been steamrollered into it by the national grid. I don't think it's as black and white as you're making out WW.
Plus, to imply the landowners are the only affected party is shortsighted - we're all affected by this, and it's gone/going ahead with minimum public consultation.
Enjoy the match, btw?
I ended up going as well, as my partner came home with 2 free tickets on the friday night.:)
 
Dic Penderyn said:
completely wrong.
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if the landowners arent happy then they have the opportunity to say so - the lady in question hasnt as far ia can see said she is unhappy with it. she is playing both sides saying she has sympathy for the objectors on one hand but then taking the money offered as compensation for disturbance on the other. if she isnt happy about the proposals she should have refused permission to get on to her land and then fought it out in court under the cpo procedures - am i missing something?! you cant just go on somenone's land without their agreement and it looks to me like they have her agreement.
 
waterloowelshy said:
money talks - as i said before in a thread on this ages ago - the landowners are all in agreement with the proposals and are being well compensated. But, yet again other people have to stick their noses in and make life difficult. Protesting against something over which the landowner and therefore the affected party is happy about really does seem like a massive waste of time!
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Have you studied this at all? There are widespread concerns about the gas pipeline being too close to a village school, housing and the dangers of using explosives to blast rock near a coal tip that could slide down.

That's quite apart from the abuse of local democracy in various council planning committees and the wider argument about investing millions (billions?) in a finite fossil fuel rather than renewables.

As Llantwit says, just cos the landowners like it doesn't mean people can't protest. Jeez, some people are so stuck in the 19th Century :p
 
"The campaigners have been invited to pitch camp on the land of local landowner Ira Wynne Jones, of Ty'n y Pant Farm, who says she was totally misled by National Grid about the scale of the development they were proposing and is appalled by the damage done to an area she grew up in as a child."
source: http://www.newswales.co.uk/?section=Environment&F=1&id=9878

As for other landwners on other sections of the pipeline route - the Brecon Beacons National Park Authority.
"It fears the pipeline, that would pass through 20 miles of the National Park, could irreversibly damage its sensitive landscape and harm the wildlife that inhabit it including, dormice, bats, badgers and crayfish.

BBNPA believes adverse social and environmental impacts of constructing the pipeline have been underestimated - particularly the potential disruption to tourism, local businesses and traffic."
Source: http://icwales.icnetwork.co.uk/0100...objectid=18068112&siteid=50082-name_page.html

There is a well balanced run down of people's opinions found here too:
http://icwales.icnetwork.co.uk/0100...objectid=18094790&siteid=50082-name_page.html

Fact is this project will affect a hell of alot more people than just the landowners who's land it goes across.
 
niclas said:
Have you studied this at all? There are widespread concerns about the gas pipeline being too close to a village school, housing and the dangers of using explosives to blast rock near a coal tip that could slide down.

That's quite apart from the abuse of local democracy in various council planning committees and the wider argument about investing millions (billions?) in a finite fossil fuel rather than renewables.

As Llantwit says, just cos the landowners like it doesn't mean people can't protest. Jeez, some people are so stuck in the 19th Century :p
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wouldnt the nineteenth century be where we are now if we didnt have a gas supply?! :confused: ;) :D

how dare you accuse me of being set in the past while you object to a scheme that will provide gas to thousands of people. you complete troll!
 
waterloowelshy said:
wouldnt the nineteenth century be where we are now if we didnt have a gas supply?! :confused: ;) :D

how dare you accuse me of being set in the past while you object to a scheme that will provide gas to thousands of people. you complete troll!
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Is the LNG pipeline gonna be the new cricket WW?;) :D
 
wouldnt the nineteenth century be where we are now if we didnt have a gas supply?!
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No you're still stuck in the 19th century.
In the 21st century, C02 emissions are threatening climate destabilisation that will lead to misery for millions. Fortunately we no longer have to rely on coal and gas, there are alternative technologies which can supply electricity cleanly and effectively. The obstacles are political not tecnical.
The government wants to build more roads instead of invest in public transport and build nuclear power stations and pipelines rather than investing in clean, renewable energies - it's priorities reflect the interests of powerful corporations rather than humanity.
Did you know of the 10 biggest multinational corporations in the world, 3 are oil companies and 4 are automobile companies?
 
llantwit said:
Is the LNG pipeline gonna be the new cricket WW?;) :D
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are you gonna post on topic or do you not have anything to say?

we all know who was in the right on the cricket mind dont we! - should be starting with the building work soon! :D
 
Swan said:
I have just finished speaking to Red Jim and the mood in the camp is pretty positive.Ira the landowner has been told by National Quid that if she doesnt ask the protesters to leave she will face costs from £50-80,000.She has told the press that she will ask the protesters to leave, but she has not so far.
Anyone wishing to join the camp is welcome to.If others want to organise any solidarity action please feel free.

I am heading up there tomorrow with fresh supplies.There is a meeting in the Trebanos rugby club there will be speakers from Ireland who are involved in the Shell to Sea campaign.Anyone who can make it will be welcome.
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If they are on her land why the hell do they think they have any right to bill her for the 'costs'???If people who she didnt ask to 'trespass';) on her land wont leave when she requests it nicely?

which arse face law allows them to do that then?
 
LilMissHissyFit said:
If they are on her land why the hell do they think they have any right to bill her for the 'costs'???If people who she didnt ask to 'trespass';) on her land wont leave when she requests it nicely?

which arse face law allows them to do that then?
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Under New Labour the law is on the side of the rich not the poor. That's why my organisation campaigns for a ROBIN HOOD economy that takes from the rich and gives to the poor.

http://www.socialistworker.co.uk/article.php?article_id=10182
 
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