beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
Oh and anyone who actually identifies themselves as a "gamer" needs to grow the fuck up.
Gamer Oppression In The UK
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Shippou-Sensei
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I quite liked it - I'd go 6/10
tommers
Currently in investor / advisor mode.
There's a whole gaming sub forum where little, if any, ridiculing goes on.
Maybe try that, but my advice would be to keep the SJW nonsense to yourself.
What do you think the government should do to represent "gamers"? No parties have policies around film buffs or music or anything do they? There's that thing to encourage people to make films here I guess. Isn't there some tax break for game developers? Or have I just made that up?
Taking it at face value, it is somewhat surprising that the gaming industry is so large and yet is still dealt with only very superficially by media and politics. More people play video games than most sports, and yet the latter gets far more attention and serious discussion.
My brother is (or was, not sure anymore) into League of Legends and X-Games (is that what they're called? I feel so old
) which are both huuuuuuge, but you barely see any coverage of them and that has genuinely surprised me for quite some time.
I don't think it's 'oppression', but it is an odd cultural fact. Obviously this is changing and I've read/listened to some very interesting games coverage, but it still feels like it's on the fringes and I have to seek it out.
My younger classmates at college (17-22 ish) will happily spend hours watching live coverage of Dota and super smash bros tourneys online. They watch speedruns of games they have. They do all that stuff on twitch and the like so no need to press the old fogeys in the MSM to pay attention - they already have an outlet. And given that Twitch is worth a gazillion, million dollars I'd say it works for them.
The mantra of an old classmate of mine.
Im going to ignore the trolls and get the thread back on topic.
At my uni i help organise a gamers rights group and we meet every thursday. This is one of our flyers
Does anybody think a group like this could be feasible across other universities? A network of groups could be set up and a proper movement for gamers rights could be started!
At my uni i help organise a gamers rights group and we meet every thursday. This is one of our flyers
Does anybody think a group like this could be feasible across other universities? A network of groups could be set up and a proper movement for gamers rights could be started!
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
Go. Away.Im going to ignore the trolls and get the thread back on topic.
At my uni i help organise a gamers rights group and we meet every thursday. This is one of our flyers
Does anybody think a group like this could be feasible across other universities? A network of groups could be set up and a proper movement for gamers rights could be started!
maomao
普費斯
Yes there are and no you haven't.
http://www.theguardian.com/technolo...eaks-expected-to-protect-more-than-10000-jobs
tommers
Currently in investor / advisor mode.
What are "gamer's rights"?Im going to ignore the trolls and get the thread back on topic.
At my uni i help organise a gamers rights group and we meet every thursday. This is one of our flyers
Does anybody think a group like this could be feasible across other universities? A network of groups could be set up and a proper movement for gamers rights could be started!
We won't be silenced
Shippou-Sensei
4:1:2.5
The question of what gamers actually stand for is still rather unanswered
it says in the flyer: equality, peace and justice
tommers
Currently in investor / advisor mode.
Games. Boobs.
Vintage Paw
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Taking it at face value, it is somewhat surprising that the gaming industry is so large and yet is still dealt with only very superficially by media and politics. More people play video games than most sports, and yet the latter gets far more attention and serious discussion.
My brother is (or was, not sure anymore
I don't think it's 'oppression', but it is an odd cultural fact. Obviously this is changing and I've read/listened to some very interesting games coverage, but it still feels like it's on the fringes and I have to seek it out.
All down to gaming's history. Attempts at making it more 'serious' and equal were made back in the 80s but with the 'dudification' of tech at that time, it found itself pigeonholed as something boys do for fun. Which was ridiculous, because girls were playing games back then just as much, but the industry positioned itself in a certain way, as an adjunct to what was going on in tech more widely. Fast forward 30 years and we find ourselves in this unfortunate position, where we have both bullshit culture wars as women want to be recognised as part of a fun hobby without getting rape threats, and gaming as a whole isn't taken seriously even though there are some stunning pieces of art out there. Really, it's just coming into its own as political commentary (Papers, Please, for example), but it is going to find it very hard to get the same profile as something like film because a) it's technology before art (in terms of how the publishers view it), b) it has so many different uses (educational, therapeutic, fun), and c) it can't shake that image of being silly toys for silly boys (helped in no small part by these gg clowns).
This is a really interesting article that touches on some of that (amongst other things): The Vast, Unplayable History of Video Games
tommers
Currently in investor / advisor mode.
Those are everybody's rights.
We have a gaming forum here including threads on games like Call of Duty. We have a 67 page thread on the kind of issues you're talking about though not necessarily sympathetic to your viewpoint (I've read 4 or 5 pages at most). People are ridiculing you because your using terms like "SJW feminists". Do you think ridicule and oppression are the same thing? There are alsorts of threads mocking politicians here. Are we oppressing them? Do you think that none of the people doing the ridiculing are gamers? Are female gamers allowed to voice their opinion or should they only be allowed to agree with the viewpoint you put forward to be considered gamers?
- gamers are often heros in video games, saving people who are in distress and need. who can say this of the current government?? i cant
. Quite often gamers are sociopathic arseholes in video games who say this of the current government?- games like call of duty teach you to work together for the common good (winning the match) which is quite socialist and goes against the current governent
Free for all?
- video games bring lots of money to the economy and stop the deficit
What does this even mean? The deficit still is. Even assuming stopping the deficit (the position of the cureent government you seem to be against) is the best thing to do video games are not the answer.
The points you make about computer games and violence have been argued to death in these forums over the years in several threads. Specific thread on the subject as well as on threads about individual games.
maomao
普費斯
MasterChief1999 What rights have you been denied as a gamer or what restrictions have been placed on your behaviour? I play video games and don't feel oppressed because of it.
D'wards
IT'S YOUR DECISION DANIEL
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Nylock
I hate 'these days'...
I'm a 'gamer', stop making me look like a cunt by association.Hi everyone long time lurker first time poster
Ive been reading this forum for a while especially after the general election and got to thinking what could be done to make this country better. Especially what the political parties especially the Labour party could do
Then I had a thought: no political party in the UK has any sort of policies that actively address video games, gamers or the oppression that gamers face. For example both from SJW feminists in the mainstream media as well as old people who think that video games make you want to hurt people
I think if the Labour party embraced gamers and had policies for gamers then this country could be improved a lot. For example:
- gamers are often heros in video games, saving people who are in distress and need. who can say this of the current government?? i cant
- games like call of duty teach you to work together for the common good (winning the match) which is quite socialist and goes against the current governent
- video games bring lots of money to the economy and stop the deficit
Does anyone have any thoughts on this? I hope im not alone and can find fellow gaming lefties on these forums, maybe we can start up a political group together
For one thing the SJWs i mentioned in my first post are trying to deny me my right to play video games they dislike
captainmission
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Bioware to be prosecuted in the Hauge for the ending of mass effect 3!
Anita Sarkeesian to be extraordinarily rendered to Bowser's castle!
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Papers Please isn't really politically commentary. It relies on retro Iron Curtain chic to spice up a fairly mundane detail-checking game with a role-playing narrative which lends consequences to trivial choices.
Perhaps it's attempts by game makers to produce great art (The Room, Monument Valley) that do most to make gaming inclusive, almost as a by-product.
Perhaps it's attempts by game makers to produce great art (The Room, Monument Valley) that do most to make gaming inclusive, almost as a by-product.
tommers
Currently in investor / advisor mode.
What do you actually want to achieve and how?
maomao
普費斯
How are they doing this? I've seen a lot of criticism and attempts to prmote non-sexist or non-violent games. I've seen no attempts to ban anything from anyone except the puritanical right wingers. Surely everyone has the right to say what they like and make the games that they want to? How does that oppress you?
Lord Camomile
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I basically know what you're talking about, but barely
I kind of get your point that they have their own mediums, but isn't it the same as other issues that get marginalised because they're youth-oriented? Also, I think it's fair to say that games aren't just for >25s, at least not any more.I just think, even it if is just considered a hobby (although I think it has proven itself to be capable of much more), there are comparable 'hobbies' in terms of popularity that get much more attention in politics. As others have said, it's not like all those who play games share a common politics, or even a common view on games (I think it's fair to say this has been demonstrated spectacularly in recent years), but for it to barely register at all on the political radar is a bit odd, to my ignorant eyes at least.
Will stick that on Pocket for the commute
Shippou-Sensei
4:1:2.5
Being able to ask for something you dislike to be banned is part of equality peace and justice.
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