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Fisher_Gate said:
Post of the week without a doubt! Excellent thinking sir!
Galloway says killing of Blair "justified"
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Post of the week without a doubt! Excellent thinking sir!
Badger Kitten
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I am going to keep this short and to the point because it's all been said before by far more eloquent people than me.
But our words have no impact upon you therefore I'm going to talk to you in a language that you understand. Our words are dead until we give them life with our blood.
I'm sure by now the media has painted a suitable picture of me, this predictable propaganda machine will naturally try to put a spin on it to suit the Government and to scare the masses into conforming to their power and wealth obsessed agendas.
I and thousands like me are forsaking everything for what we believe. Our driving motivation doesn't come from tangible commodities that this world has to offer. Our religion is Islam, obedience to the one true God, Allah and follow in the footsteps of the final prophet and messenger Mohammed...
This is how our ethical stances are dictated. Your democratically elected governments continuously perpetuate atrocities against my people and your support of them makes you directly responsible, just as I am directly responsible for protecting and avenging my Muslim brothers and sisters.
Until we feel security, you will be our target. Until you stop the bombing, gassing, imprisonment and torture of my people, we will not stop this fight.
We are at war and I am a soldier. Now you too will taste the reality of this situation.
And that is how suicide bombing is '''justified''. I don't care whether it is democratically elected leaders or voters who may or not have voted for them being suicide bombed, here or in Iraq.
There is no justification for advocating suicide bombing, of Blair or anybody else. Whatever you think their crimes are.
FFS.
But our words have no impact upon you therefore I'm going to talk to you in a language that you understand. Our words are dead until we give them life with our blood.
I'm sure by now the media has painted a suitable picture of me, this predictable propaganda machine will naturally try to put a spin on it to suit the Government and to scare the masses into conforming to their power and wealth obsessed agendas.
I and thousands like me are forsaking everything for what we believe. Our driving motivation doesn't come from tangible commodities that this world has to offer. Our religion is Islam, obedience to the one true God, Allah and follow in the footsteps of the final prophet and messenger Mohammed...
This is how our ethical stances are dictated. Your democratically elected governments continuously perpetuate atrocities against my people and your support of them makes you directly responsible, just as I am directly responsible for protecting and avenging my Muslim brothers and sisters.
Until we feel security, you will be our target. Until you stop the bombing, gassing, imprisonment and torture of my people, we will not stop this fight.
We are at war and I am a soldier. Now you too will taste the reality of this situation.
And that is how suicide bombing is '''justified''. I don't care whether it is democratically elected leaders or voters who may or not have voted for them being suicide bombed, here or in Iraq.
There is no justification for advocating suicide bombing, of Blair or anybody else. Whatever you think their crimes are.
FFS.
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articul8 said:
I alway's thought the SWP followed Trotsky's thinking on 'individual terror'?
Sorry to quote at length, but in this context necessary.
http://www.marxists.org/archive/trotsky/works/1909/tia09.htm
Kid_Eternity said:Who Ming or L+L?
Yeah sure, kiddo. I'm always being quoted in the papers.
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Well given that you and Ming have alot in common it's an easy mistake to make...
Kid_Eternity said:
You know little of Ming and nothing of me, so it's obvious you're just shit-stirring as has always been your wont.
Kaka Tim
Half Arsed and Slapdash till I Die
articul8 said:
Would it?
You got any evidnece of that?
of course the media are going to go ape, as are all the establishment politicions, they'll try to stifle any debate about the reality of the situation (essentially that Blair is a war criminal), but lots of ordinary people, without any political affiliation will say 'hes got a point'.
People seem to be saying that they essentially agree with Galloways point bu that he shouldn't have said it - what sort of self-censourous bollocks is that? Police state? Your doing the job for them.
subversplat
writer of wrongs
This is hilarious 
More people should publicly call for the execution of world leaders!
More people should publicly call for the execution of world leaders!
i think its good that there is a politician who speaks his mind. Most leading politicains are spineless thinking that if they admit to failure or say something that they 'shouldnt' people will think less of them. Im sorry but the majority of people think even less of them for not doing so. Even though i dont condown violence, he's just saying it like it is and all the better for it imho.
edited to add.... at least his radio show might be worth a listen. sure he'll talk about it.
edited to add.... at least his radio show might be worth a listen. sure he'll talk about it.
Azrael
circling Airstrip One
Not a bit of it, he's as shrewd an operator as you'll find. He's milking this hardnosed reble image for all it's worth, and it's made him basically untouchable. He doesn't *care* if the Scum et al throw muck at him, it just validates everything he says about them, and his eagerness at the libel game ensures nothing really damaging sticks.Hocus Eye. said:
The Scum are basically powerless. He survives everything they throw, and the longer he does, the more pathetic they look. I can't stand the man, but he's a clever fucker alright.
it is possible to think that bombing the shit out of people and world poverty are both criminal you know - except you refuse to see anything wrong with what this govt has done in Iraq. You are a fucking disgusting apologist for mass murder. Iraqis are subhuman in your eyes and don't even try to deny it.tbaldwin said:
cemertyone
Well-Known Member
Lock&Light said:
..the premisis sits on him being " accurately reported" in the first instance. As for the final part of Mings comments...perhaps he should address thos ewords to the Prime Minister.....that would be more apt.
articul8
Dishonest sociopath
Kaka Tim said:
Do you honestly think a national opinion poll would give more than a tiny fraction of people thinking Blair's assasination would be "morally justified"?
Even much of the anti-war movement would object. Its not a question of defending Blair - who has been complicit in murder on a vast scale. Its just that isolated acts of individual terror are both futile and counterproductive and therefore never justified.
articul8
Dishonest sociopath
If Blair got killed there would be the biggest reactionary backlash imaginable. His image would go from a lame duck leader of a disastrous war, into a martyr for freedom and democracy. 
You lot are in fantasy land if you think the majority of Brits support Blair's execution by extreme right-wing Islamists.
You lot are in fantasy land if you think the majority of Brits support Blair's execution by extreme right-wing Islamists.
X-77 said:
I'm very glad that I don't have to depend on your sense of political judgement.
JHE
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I dislike the publicity-addicted Islamophile and dictator-worshipper, but I think his latest comments are being a bit overplayed.
He has not called for Blair to be assassinated. "I am not calling for it," he said. He has also said he thinks it would be counter-productive and that if he knew of any plot to assassinate Blair he would alert the authorities.
He was just expressing his view of Blair (which we knew already) and sucking up to militant Mozzies by making clear that, like them, he sympathises with jihadi suicide bombers. Is it really a surprise to anyone where his sympathies lie?
He has not called for Blair to be assassinated. "I am not calling for it," he said. He has also said he thinks it would be counter-productive and that if he knew of any plot to assassinate Blair he would alert the authorities.
He was just expressing his view of Blair (which we knew already) and sucking up to militant Mozzies by making clear that, like them, he sympathises with jihadi suicide bombers. Is it really a surprise to anyone where his sympathies lie?
I said in another unrelated thread pretty much the same thing.
Fortunately I am not a political leader so no one cares what I say, and it doesn't make the news.
We have not done nearly enough in this country to counter what Blair has done, in fact, we re-elected him, and by we, I mean this country as a whole, you either voted for him, didn't bother to vote, or enough of us didn't vote against him, we are all responsible for his crimes to some degree.
As I said before, someone brought the terror we have wrought on Iraq home to us, and we label them evil, cause it suits our needs, it makes it easier for us to deal with. Much harder to realise that this is what we have done to the Iraqis, to empathise with the terror and pain and suffering they have gone through because of our government, far easier to just label these people evil and move on with our lives continuing to ignore what our government has done.
We are a bunch of hypocritical twats who don't seem to understand the consequences of the actions of our government. We aren't marching on Downing Street or on Parliment daily demanding the withdrawl of all of our troops from Iraq because we have learnt the of the terror and pain our troops are inflicting, using the money that we pay in tax to do it.
No, its just evil people doing evil things.
Do I wish a suicide bomber on Tony Blair?
Absolutely.
Rather him then more people who don't have power and don't have the ability to stop this war.
Fortunately I am not a political leader so no one cares what I say, and it doesn't make the news.
We have not done nearly enough in this country to counter what Blair has done, in fact, we re-elected him, and by we, I mean this country as a whole, you either voted for him, didn't bother to vote, or enough of us didn't vote against him, we are all responsible for his crimes to some degree.
As I said before, someone brought the terror we have wrought on Iraq home to us, and we label them evil, cause it suits our needs, it makes it easier for us to deal with. Much harder to realise that this is what we have done to the Iraqis, to empathise with the terror and pain and suffering they have gone through because of our government, far easier to just label these people evil and move on with our lives continuing to ignore what our government has done.
We are a bunch of hypocritical twats who don't seem to understand the consequences of the actions of our government. We aren't marching on Downing Street or on Parliment daily demanding the withdrawl of all of our troops from Iraq because we have learnt the of the terror and pain our troops are inflicting, using the money that we pay in tax to do it.
No, its just evil people doing evil things.
Do I wish a suicide bomber on Tony Blair?
Absolutely.
Rather him then more people who don't have power and don't have the ability to stop this war.
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