Galloway replies to Palast.

[tollbar]

A blast from that master of political invective GG.

http://www.ukwatch.net/article/1028

 

[Nigel Irritable]

Not a fan of the Gorgeous one but he does a pretty effective number on Palast there.

 

[Pickman's model]

when galloway says he hadn't heard of palast in years, i must admit i doubt his veracity - hasn't he seen palast's democracy book? eh?

 

[Pickman's model]

& - afaik - galloway doesn't own a trumpet, despite his claims to the contrary in there.

 

[Larry O'Hara]

Well...

Call me psychic, Pickman's, but do I detect on these boards you have a dislike for GG? Just a thought

 

[laptop]

1

The first, and infamous time, my words were taken out of context.

Last refuge of the.,..

2

The Mariam Appeal, which Palast drags in to allege I benefited financially from its work, was not a charity. It was a political campaign.

That's not what the Charity Commission concluded.

17. The Commission informed the founders of the Appeal that its objects were charitable and that accordingly, the Appeal should have been registered with the Commission.

18. The Commission informed the trustees who had received salary payments from the Appeal’s funds that these were indeed unauthorised benefits made in breach of the trusts of the Appeal. The Commission has informed these trustees and Mr Galloway that, as the services provided were of value to the Appeal and as there was no evidence of bad faith on behalf of any member of the Executive Committee, none of them being aware that these payments were unauthorised and believing them to be necessary, the Commission would not be pursuing recovery of those sums.

3

But what I will not tolerate—and will sue in any territory where it is possible to do so—is the lie that I personally benefited financially from the campaign.

Given the above, if I were Palast I'd be saying "I'll look forward to that!"

4

The commission are in possession of every receipt of funds and every cheque issues or bank transfer ever made.

12. The Commission has been unable to obtain all the books and records of the Appeal.

Weasel words there, Georgie boy...

 

[rebel warrior]

Still, as Galloway notes about Palast's regurgitation of old smears, 'I’m sure the public is even more tired and bemused than I am'.

However, Galloway's latest report on his US tour is interesting: http://www.socialistworker.co.uk/article.php?article_id=7420

 

[Sorry.]

Galloway would do well to acknowledge that Palast is actually a fine journalist, whatever the merits or otherwise of the particular article in question.

Although GG only seems to have one speed - pompous rhetoritition.

 

[ska invita]

both article show galloway to be what he is: a brilliant speaker with passion and commitment - everything else is just opinion.

 

[laptop]

a brilliant speaker with passion and commitment - everything else is just opinion.

No, that's opinion.

It's the content of his speech that's in question. And that's a matter of fact, even if only in the sense that one day courts will rule on what is fact and what is fiction.

As I demonstrated above, his attempt at a defence against Palast is positively bloody parsimonious with the actualité. It may be defamatory.

 

[phildwyer]

I suppose the fact that he's by far the most prominent and eloquent opponent of the criminal war in Iraq is of no significance to anyone? That fact alone makes him a hero in my book.

 

[james_walsh]

Whatever the faults of Mr Galloway ,his critics round here should reaconise that sections of the ruling class and there lickspitells (and maybe the secret sevices) do try and smere him .

 

[Pickman's model]

Whatever the faults of Mr Galloway ,his critics round here should reaconise that sections of the ruling class and there lickspitells (and maybe the secret sevices) do try and smere him .

yeh: but galloway doesn't do himself any favours with his indefatigable wankery and the like. if the secret services want to harm galloway, they should just give him a more regular platform from which to air his views.

 

[Pickman's model]

Call me psychic, Pickman's, but do I detect on these boards you have a dislike for GG? Just a thought

 

[Sorry.]

Whatever the faults of Mr Galloway ,his critics round here should reaconise that sections of the ruling class and there lickspitells (and maybe the secret sevices) do try and smere him .

have you read Palast's book? He's hardly a lickspittal of the ruling class...

 

[james_walsh]

have you read Palast's book? He's hardly a lickspittal of the ruling class...

No i haven't.And im prepared to except what you say ,as fact. But a fair amount of paranoia is exceptable from galloway, as there certainly are some people , out to get him.And (left)critics should take care with whom they ally themselves with in this matter.

 

[Random]

No i haven't.And im prepared to except what you say ,as fact. But a fair amount of paranoia is exceptable from galloway, as there certainly are some people , out to get him.And (left)critics should take care with whom they ally themselves with in this matter.

Sod that. Let's consider the facts, rather than wondering what are the 'right' things to believe.

Assuming that I value GG's work on the war and all that, what do defenders of Galloway think of laptop's very telling analysis?

 

[james_walsh]

On laptops points.
1/ yeah, weasel words from gg(at least the 'i salute your bla,bla,bla etc).But not enough to condemn him as corrupt.
2/I think GG defence has been proved on this point.
3/Its fair enough to sue the establishment and those who play those short of games.Ie sueing the Sunday Teleghraph is fine.im shore some nasty things have been said in the left press about GG and he hasn't treatened sueing.
4/ don't think there's any muck to be found there.

GG was not tackled politically.Before his explusion from the Labour Party he didn't have a great reputation for chapanioning socailism or the working class(still doesn't to my mind), he sucks up to and excepts arab nationalism, he encougages communalism, he doesn't seem to except the ideas of WC democracy and seems to see himself as a bonaprate figure. Puts religion above politics.
There are proberbly loads of other political issues, im not intreasted in the muck raking that the capitalist press seem to base there attacks on. My critic of the SSP would not be based on the sex lives of its leading lights.