Galloway on sky news this morning
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Maddalene said:You don't really believe this do you?
The person I refer to - who served in the Phalangist militia during the invasion of Lebanon in 1982 - yes, absolutely, I think the world would benefit from his death, seeing as he and his comrades were never taken to a court of human rights.
This is why.
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He must be watching GG the porn videoGrandma Death said:
Mellow-world
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I'm pretty sure the volume change wasn't technical. They turned his volume down to allow the interviewer to shout over George Galloway. It's also rediculas that she doesn't seem to be able to comprehend Israel as terrorists. She is comleatly taken in by propergander.
Well what's good for the goose I suppose.
You must admit that G G's performance was pretty impressive though Neva.Neva said:I can't believe this terrible excuse for a thread is back and I can't believe how blind and one-sided you are
anybodygotapen? said:
I wouldn’t no. He lied, got caught out lying and shouted over the reporter when she tried to pull him up on it. Undoubtedly he is right to criticise Israel but his defence of Hezbollah to the extent that he denies both facts and opinions accepted by virtually all of the international community is ridiculous.
I have to say I think the reporter was abysmal, she asked stupid questions and generally made life easy for Galloway to rant his way along without engaging in debate. She should get the blame for allowing the interview to decend into the farce it became but that's no excuse for his bile.
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to be fair to galloway: top performance! 
Mellow-world
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Neva said:I can't believe this terrible excuse for a thread is back and I can't believe how blind and one-sided you and the vast majority of the posters on this thread are
Depressing read this is.
Please explain how this is so?
Mellow-world said:
You said it was ridiculous that she can't comprehend why Israel are terrorists, well in the minds of many people, Israel aren't terrorists and Hezbollah are. (This is an issue of debate of course but in no way is it 'ridiculous' for people to see Israel not as terrorists). You also accused her of being taken in by propaganda when, of the two of them, Galloway was the one most guilty of spewing dishonest information to fit in with his agenda.
Furthermore you alleged the volume was turned down to allow the interviewer to shout over Galloway. While I'm not defending the interviewer, because she was woeful, I suspect you probably haven’t got any evidence of this and I think if you watch it back Galloway wasn't really giving her a chance to question him anyway. He just wanted to get on his soap box and rant and it was he, not her, that started the raising the voice, shouting over your opposition style of debate which is pretty typical of him from what I’ve seen.
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Neva said:
I wasn't being "blind and one sided" i looked at the facts. I't seems you are the blind and one sided one for asuming i didn't look at the facts and asuming that you are in the right.
Neva said:
It could be a pure coincidence but it seems pretty unlikely.
Kid_Eternity
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Neva said:
Then don't read it, it's not like anyone is forcing you too.
Personally I think GG is a prick, not a fan by any stretch of the imagination but he has his uses. If him pissing all over sky news anchors or railing against Blair actually opens up debate in this country then it's a good thing.
Kid_Eternity
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Neva said:
Nonsense, listen again and use your ears. The sound is turned down at the part he starts laying into Murdoch etc, now it may not be for that reason but turning the sound down or off is something that news progs do sometimes against loud or unruly guests.
KeyboardJockey
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Neva said:I can't believe this terrible excuse for a thread is back and I can't believe how blind and one-sided you and the vast majority of the posters on this thread are
Depressing read this is.
Up to a point I agree with you. I am no great fan of Galloway. As a person with a secularist socialist point of view I'm uncomfortable with Galloways overt courting of groups like Hezbollah. I'd feel equally uncomfortable if he was doing the same with other military/religious groups.
To read the cheerleaders for a flawed weaselly politician like Galloway spout off on here is depressing. Yes there is a need for a just settlement for the Palestinians yes there is a need for Israel to feel secure and yes Israel has done things that it shouldn't have done and yes UK / US has meddled in the levantine region in the wrong way but Galloway is not helping any form of peace process.
Galloway and his backing of Hezbollah is aimed at getting muslims who are justifiably agrieved by what is happening in the region trooping through the doors to vote and support Respect. I don't think that Galloways backing of Hezbollah will do anything other than cause more problems in the rregion.
Galloway has mouthed off for short term gain but may cause longer term problems.
It's ironic that the blind minded Galloway worshipers on here are the same posters who moan about 'propaganda' from sources that disagree with them.
Mellow-world said:
No. You were being one-sided for the reasons I stated in my above post. What facts where you looking at by the way because if there the same ones that Galloway was coming out with then you might want to do some reading on the M.E
Mellow-world said:
Well I guess if it's likely then it must be true and okay for you say it with zero evidence. Anyway it doesn't really matter.
Kid_Eternity said:Then don't read it, it's not like anyone is forcing you too.
Personally I think GG is a prick, not a fan by any stretch of the imagination but he has his uses. If him pissing all over sky news anchors or railing against Blair actually opens up debate in this country then it's a good thing.
I did actually try not reading, listening, watching etc things that depress me once but I found I became pretty uninformed about nearly everything in the world within a few weeks.
Yeah I agree with the need for someone to rail against Blair and co. I just wish it could be done by someone with integrity. And if it absolutely has to be an idiot like Galloway I then wish he can get his facts straight or try talking about the issue without going crazy.
Neva said:
The thing is Neva when Galloway does a rant on the middle east he is 9 times out of 10 correct, he has been accused of telling lies and taking money from Sadam for example for years yet not one of his accusers has been able to nail him. Ok so he has a tendancy to shout over the interviewer, so what? he is clearly frustrated by the bullshit and feels he has to shout to get his point accross and terrorism is terrorism whether it is a suicide bomber or a lazer guided missile fired from 3 miles above ground, i think you will find he condems both. Like i said earlier the UK needs more Galloways.
Also, most people can't comprehend why Israel are terrorists because most people believe what they read in their papers and hear on the news, you never hear about State Terrorism because that is too close to the bone for the majority, terrorists are the bad guys and we are not the bad guys
KeyboardJockey
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Neva said:
Spot on! I don't agree with a lot of what you say but there is a need for someone with inteligence and credibility to challenge the Blair crew. It's a fucking shame that it is an idiot like Galloway. The man is a self obsecessed arse who has encouraged comminitarian politics in the UK.
It's a great pity that they only person who does put their head above the parapet and challenge Blair etc is Galloway. With someone better it could all be so much better.
Spymaster
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I agree with Neva.
The actual content of what GG was saying is completely debatable (though not necessarily untrue) but he delivered it as absolute fact and simply shouted down the interviewer (who was utter shite and clearly unprepared).
Many posters here are going to commend his performance because of his anti-establishment position and because they like what he was saying. That doesn't make him right or effective.
I listen to his radio show every week on Talk Sport, he does have some good (if unworkable ideas) but he presents it in a very similar style to that interview, often shouting down or cutting off adversly opinioned callers.
Personally I think Georgie boy has done more to alienate moderates from the Palestinian/Lebanese cause than any other commentator.
The actual content of what GG was saying is completely debatable (though not necessarily untrue) but he delivered it as absolute fact and simply shouted down the interviewer (who was utter shite and clearly unprepared).
Many posters here are going to commend his performance because of his anti-establishment position and because they like what he was saying. That doesn't make him right or effective.
I listen to his radio show every week on Talk Sport, he does have some good (if unworkable ideas) but he presents it in a very similar style to that interview, often shouting down or cutting off adversly opinioned callers.
Personally I think Georgie boy has done more to alienate moderates from the Palestinian/Lebanese cause than any other commentator.
KeyboardJockey said:
Its a fucking shame when their is only 1 man that is vocal about the wrongs of our Governments foreign policy, yes the man is a self obsecessed arse but who cares? he gets his point accross unlike the rest of those MP's that are against Blair and Bush, no one starts threads about them because they do not get passionate about it, were as GG does and if you like him or not he gets people talking about these things.
Kid_Eternity
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Neva said:
Ok, slight overreaction, I wasn't talking about the whole world, not my business what you do, but if this thread bothers you why spend the time with it? Why not start another about GG on your own terms rather than argue within a framework designed for you?
Kid_Eternity said:
Okay I listened again and yes it does become pretty obvious that he was silenced so to speak but it wasn't really so the interviewer could shout over him it was more so she could get a word in. It happens straight after the four minute mark on the YouTube video and she does actually let him lay into Murdoch's organisations briefly. He only gets turned down when he refuses to admit Hezbollah are a terrorist organisation and shouts over her points. He gets his volume back the instant she has finished making her point.
[edit] Did the boards just go down for a few minutes for anyone else then or is my net connection dying?
Kid_Eternity
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Spymaster said:
Maybe you're right, just it gets a little tedious reading people complain about Urban and doing little or nothing about it.
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