Galloway Against Open Borders?

[Donna Ferentes]

She might, but I sure don't.

I believe their fate was much that as described by Milton in the first part of Paradise Lost.

 

[In Bloom]

She might

I thought Donna Ferentes was a blerk?

 

[Donna Ferentes]

So did I.

 

[In Bloom]

I believe their fate was much that as described by Milton in the first part of Paradise Lost.

 

[Donna Ferentes]

I also note that Hell now appears to be closed.....

 

[FridgeMagnet]

I thought Donna Ferentes was a blerk?

He is.

Most of the lot who used to post umpteen Galloway/SWP/RESPECT threads a day have either left, been banned or both. Some of them sneak back occasionally or have been allowed back, but there isn't the critical mass of people who give a shit either way in UKPol any more to make such postings worthwhile.

 

[mutley]

I believe their fate was much that as described by Milton in the first part of Paradise Lost.

It would be nice to get a straight answer.

Mutley BSc Physics and never read Paradise Lost. (Should I?)

 

[mutley]

I thought Donna Ferentes was a blerk?

Sorry, I just kind of assumed that 'Donna' was female. Stupid of me I know.

 

[Donna Ferentes]

Mutley BSc Physics and never read Paradise Lost. (Should I?)

It's tough going if you're not used to it.

Anyway, I refer to Satan and his angels lamenting their expulsion from Heaven.

 

[In Bloom]

It would be nice to get a straight answer.

I thought you'd got one

He left here and started posting on TTG, when that went tits up, he went elsewhere.

Has anybody else had enough of this tedious, off-topic shit-stirring?

 

[snadge]

It would be nice to get a straight answer.

Mutley BSc Physics and never read Paradise Lost. (Should I?)

I think everyone should read paradise lost as a precursor to enter the human race, alongside moby dick and at least one Ian M. banks sci fi novel....

 

[mutley]

I think everyone should read paradise lost as a precursor to enter the human race, alongside moby dick and at least one Ian M. banks sci fi novel....

Well I've got 2 out of 3.

In Bloom - check the times of the post that made it clear againsy mine and lighten up.

Then say something deep and meaningful about the subject of the thread.

 

[Donna Ferentes]

I've not read Moby Dick, which presumably means I know a great deal less about a whale's foreskin than I might do if I had.

Does The Wasp Factory count?

 

[audiotech]

Does Galloway's position chime with Respect's policy on the issue?

 

[In Bloom]

In Bloom - check the times of the post that made it clear againsy mine and lighten up.

I wasn't entirely serious, just to be clear.

You shit-stirring troll

Then say something deep and meaningful about the subject of the thread.

Alright then.

George Galloway, like most members of the ruling class, is going to stay within certain limits, which generally include borders of some kind. And considering his long standing support for nationalism of various stripes, advocacy of closed borders would hardly be surprising.

 

[Donna Ferentes]

Galloway's part of the ruling class? I think we may be in for a broad definition....

 

[In Bloom]

Galloway's part of the ruling class? I think we may be in for a broad definition....

He's a bourgeois politician, aint he? Ruling class by definition, IMV.

Sloppy use of the term "ruling class" maybe, but I meant more in terms of boss class than aristocracy.

 

[Donna Ferentes]

Pretty sloppy, yeah. It's hard to think that somebody being a politician is sufficient qualification for being a member of the ruling class.

 

[In Bloom]

Pretty sloppy, yeah. It's hard to think that somebody being a politician is sufficient qualification for being a member of the ruling class.

Would you consider George Galloway (MP and businessman) proletarian?

 

[Donna Ferentes]

I wonder if there may not be some space between the two groups so far identified.

 

[In Bloom]

I wonder if there may not be some space between the two groups so far identified.

He's an MP, he has a vested interest in the maintainence of the status quo* and takes part in managing capitalism. How can he be anything but bourgeois (for lack of a better word)?


*And before some wanker barges in with the usual arse achingly dull "Why does it matter?" speech, little hint, this part is the important bit.

 

[Donna Ferentes]

He's an MP, he has a vested interest in the maintainance of the status quo and takes part in managing capitalism. How can he be anything but bourgeois (for lack of a better word)?

Actually none of those in itself would make one part of the bourgeoisie, really. It's a case of stretching definitions to mae a point in such a way that you damage the definitions without making the point.

 

[In Bloom]

Actually none of those in itself would make one part of the bourgeoisie, really. It's a case of stretching definitions to mae a point in such a way that you damage the definitions without making the point.

I suppose it depends on how you define the bourgeoisie. I'd certainly consider the ruling political elite to be bourgeois.

 

[JoePolitix]

I suppose it depends on how you define the bourgeoisie. I'd certainly consider the ruling political elite to be bourgeois.

Galloway's hardly a member of the ruling political elite though is he? Unless you consider RESPECT to be part of the elite that is.

 

[In Bloom]

Galloway's hardly a member of the ruling political elite though is he? Unless you consider RESPECT to be part of the elite that is.

It is though. It's a part of the state and it fulfills a role in perpetuating the prevailing order.

 

[Donna Ferentes]

That's how the anti-authoritarians work:
Everybody except them is a statist jerk.

 

[In Bloom]

That's how the anti-authoritarians work:
Everybody except them is a statist jerk.

And as usual you retreat to your usual sloganeering.

Do you actually have an argument? Or are you going to stick to ad hominems written poetry with a crap metre and a poor rhyming scheme?

 

[Donna Ferentes]

Yes, such is my intention. Why on earth would you mind?
I've not met a good argument, so why reply in kind?

 

[In Bloom]

Yes, such is my intention. Why on earth would you mind?
I've not met a good argument, so why reply in kind?

You've still yet to explain what's wrong with the argument I've put forward.

A guy could be forgiven for thinking your were being a sad, trolling, little arsehole again.

 

[Donna Ferentes]

You've still yet to explain what's wrong with the argument I've put forward.

I did provide you with an explanation:
Like it or lump it is my recommendation.