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118118 why dont you you just look up what black block are about? why do you want biff to explain it to you? :confused:
 
He just wants an argument, and I can't be arsed :cool: When he composes a properly thought out and coherent post maybe I will reply.

Nice pics btw, one of them blokes looks pretty scarey though!
 
biff curtains said:
He just wants an argument, and I can't be arsed :cool: When he composes a properly thought out and coherent post maybe I will reply.

Nice pics btw, one of them blokes looks pretty scarey though!
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aaah I see :)

Cheers I think I took most of the faces out you can never be too careful etc
 
i'm just jesting biff. tho tbh i did trawl anarchist mags a while ago looking for an answer to this exact question. why on erath can't you just say - fraid of jinxing it :D
 
dkonstrukt on flikr has some great pics
http://www.flickr.com/photos/dkonstrukt/533581242/in/photostream/
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zenie said:
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I haven't seen the news yet, but I can imagine the propaganda that's going around atm. I did see police brutality, I did see the police behaving like complete cunts throughout the weekend, you can't be everywhere @ once, but it's my opinion, from what I saw, that the police kicked off all the trouble....
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As is almost always the case. I remember going into work after the 'riot' at Wapping in May 86 and telling everyone about the police violence. No-one believed me.....but after the Poll Tax riot where 6 people from my work were there it was a lot easier to convince folk. :)
 
What is the difference between *black block* and ICF or any other football hooligans?

Not a troll, genuine question....
 
link?

probably something about some of them being involved with other stuff - stuff which is not about hitting the wife but like activist stuff. tho i dunno if there can be anything inherent to person A smashing up property and brawling with the police, which is not found when person B smashs up property and brawls with the police. setting? i think that's covered in 'other stuff'.
 
118118 said:
probably something about some of them being involved with other stuff - stuff which is not about hitting the wife but like activist stuff. tho i dunno if there can be anything inherent to person A smashing up property and brawling with the police, which is not found when person B smashs up property and brawls with the police. setting? i think that's covered in 'other stuff'.
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I have read better stream of conciousness. I have no idea what you are wittering on about here.
 
Kanda said:
What is the difference between *black block* and ICF or any other football hooligans?

Not a troll, genuine question....
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Black bloc is a tactic for not being recognised. It's a peaceful tactic but has been born out of the need to sometimes be all as one.
 
cockneyrebel said:
To be honest the only person I can ever remember making personal comments about was nigel irritable after he continually made insulting posts (and even then I apologised afterwards!).

Actually with you it's not meant to be personal at all. I meant political cynicism, how could I comment on you as an individual, I don't know you at all. I genuinely think, from what I've seen on the web, that since you became disillusioned with the SWP your politics have become cynical and it shows in your posts.

While I agree that the clown army are a joke, I just think that to then state that that is what the anarchist movement has become is firstly quite a cynical comment to make and secondly obviously not the case. Whatever my criticisms of anarchism there are obviously far more serious and far larger sections of the anarchist movement which would also think the clown army are a waste of space. Indeed I'm not even sure if the clown army call themselves anarchists, and if they do it's not a serious self-description.
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1. I made a comment at a picture of the clown army.
2. My posts on forums do not necessarily represent all my political views on things.
3. This is all irrelevant stuff, unrelated to the thread. Again.
 
1. I made a comment at a picture of the clown army.
2. My posts on forums do not necessarily represent all my political views on things.
3. This is all irrelevant stuff, unrelated to the thread. Again.
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Yeah and it was the usual politically cynical stuff. The Clown Army clearly don't represent the anarchist movement as a whole as you said.

And it's not irrelevant to the thread, you are somehow suggesting that the Clown Army at the G8 represent anarchism, they don't. Sorry but if I find your post politically cynical I'll say so, it's not personal.
 
well done for going zenie,

i was in west germany last week and the week before that and there was a lot of talk in the newspapers about the g8 and the protests.

the taz (a leftie dayly newspaper) was encouraging it's readers to go and giving practical advise ( ie if train tickets were sold out). i thought that was fantastic.

i am glad for every person that went to show that a loads of people do not want to exploit everything and everyone in the name of industry and commerce and business.

the german policeforce is hardcore if they have the instruction to be so. in germany you can really hate the police!!!

i don't feel so sorry for the innocent locals. if the chefs of the 8 biggest industrial nations meet, then i am afraid it will get loud. etc..
 
mk12 said:
Maybe most people would prefer to take days off work for relaxing holidays, rather than going to protest at the G8. I don't think the reasons British people weren't there is "apathy", that's all i'm saying.
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yes i agree. it takes some dedication to fly to another country for protest. in addtion the carbon footprint for the flying contradicts with the protest, big time, in this case.

i don't think we can compare how active people are in this context. i think that a correlation between apathy and brits etc is thanks to tony blair and his iraq war. and not necessarily true.

in germany we have a good record with demonstrating etc. but it used to be much better in the older days. i remember going to demos against nucelar power when we were small...a few times.
 
Choc said:
i don't feel so sorry for the innocent locals.
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The people blocking the roads got guided through the woods and police lines by locals who also stocked them up with food and stuff.

Handclapping is verboten at meetings apparently. You must shake your hands in the air to voice approval. I'm not making that up.
 
Choc said:
yes i agree. it takes some dedication to fly to another country for protest. in addtion the carbon footprint for the flying contradicts with the protest, big time, in this case.

i don't think we can compare how active people are in this context. i think that a correlation between apathy and brits etc is thanks to tony blair and his iraq war. and not necessarily true.

in germany we have a good record with demonstrating etc. but it used to be much better in the older days. i remember going to demos against nucelar power when we were small...a few times.
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yes fair play to them. some people from Cardiff went over by train not plane :)
 
zenie said:
:rolleyes:
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The black block has never been a peaceful tactic. It's a means of responding to and/or preempting police violence against protestors with physical force, which is not peaceful by definition.

Anybody who denies this is living in a fucking dream world.
 
Apparently according to Indymedia De, in relation to the blockades, the protesters are euphoric, seeing them as major successes, though clearly not the G8 decisions arrived at by the leaders of the free world.
 
Yeah and it was the usual politically cynical stuff. The Clown Army clearly don't represent the anarchist movement as a whole as you said.

And it's not irrelevant to the thread, you are somehow suggesting that the Clown Army at the G8 represent anarchism, they don't. Sorry but if I find your post politically cynical I'll say so, it's not personal.
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Fucking hell it was a joke CR. I'll post some "happy" and "enthusiastic" quotes to appease you in the future.

Apparently according to Indymedia De, in relation to the blockades, the protesters are euphoric, seeing them as major successes, though clearly not the G8 decisions arrived at by the leaders of the free world.
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Don't be cynical! They got in the news after all.
 
Thats called 'twinkling' its bloody ridiculous!


Handclapping is verboten at meetings apparently. You must shake your hands in the air to voice approval. I'm not making that up.
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