what is your real name Tabbatha or Tarquin, biiter mines a pint..
G20 Which Side are you on?
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what is your real name Tabbatha or Tarquin, biiter mines a pint..
Nither dose haveing a protest over something you are not going to change..
FridgeMagnet
Administrator
As said by every spoilering person ever about every protest ever. I note you've not addressed the questions about the point of this thread either (see page 1).
Blagsta
Minimum cage, maximum cage
give it a fucking rest
Bernie Gunther
Fundamentalist Druid
Sorry to be difficult, but I still haven't the faintest idea what the logic of this statement is:
Could you possibly spell it out a little more clearly for the hard of understanding?
enumbers said:
Could you possibly spell it out a little more clearly for the hard of understanding?
taffboy gwyrdd
Embrace the confusion!
The G20 has no mandate. The US Decleration of Independence reminds us we have a DUTY to overthrow tyranny.
Kaka Tim
Half Arsed and Slapdash till I Die
Oh - are we playing prole-lier than thou?
are you going to answer this enumbers
Kaka Tim
Half Arsed and Slapdash till I Die
Im thinking that Kaka Tarquin has a nice ring to it.
Anyway must dash - I have to meet my trust fund manager and then attend a yougart weaving workshop.
Donna Ferentes
jubliado
Wot?
bluestreak
HomosexualityIsStalin’sAtomBombtoDestroyAmerica
One wonders if anyone apart from enumbers is on his side. He's clearly as anti-protests as any Labourite drone or braindead rightist, but he's definitely against them as well. Is he an army of one, doomed to failure but seeing himself as a lone wolf, with all the tragedy of self-delusion that implies, or does he have a hidden posse of like-minded individuals? Perhaps he's the voice, the spokesperson, presumably because he's the most literate one and the best able to explain their complex dogma of misanthropy.
Maurice Picarda
Actually, might as well flounce.
I thought it was a girl.
bluestreak
HomosexualityIsStalin’sAtomBombtoDestroyAmerica
Possibly. They used to post as Mosaz or something like that which I always assumed was radical-speak for Moses, and thus was male. But they might not be.
One climate change activist, who has been arrested on numerous protests, said yesterday: "With so much media attention and so many world leaders coming to town next week I can guarantee there will be all sorts of groups looking to perform an array of exciting direct action stunts.
Time again we are told it is divisive crap, to bring forward at this time of the global crises, concern over climate change, the issue of The Middle Class. We are openly classist, not because we are having a temper tantrum, being naughty children, rebelling against The protest over G20 for the sake of it, neither are we seeking attention.
We might have the same concerns, and issues of those involved in The G20 protest, but feel there is more direct action we can take within our locality, for us there seems to very little, no point in taking part of finding a common path with the likes of those involved in what we feel is a utopian and somewhat crass protest.
As has been said it is nothing but a stunt, in all of The Hype we have not read any serious alternatives towards the everyday problem of capitalism, just the need to protest what seems to us for the sake of it, we have been there on such protest and to be frank wish we had not waisted our time in trying to engage or work the middle class involved.
It might be all to easy for us to sit in our little meetings, plagiarise some of our content, spend time writing a cretquie on all of this, then face the bile spewing from the mouths of those involved, telling us we must engage and find common unity.
There is no common unity we have with The Middle Class, there will never be any, we dislike the stretchers of capitalism such as the G20, The Police as much they might do, but we do feel our time our energy is far better spent in giving them a kick.
Agreed it might seem we are just a bunch of extrema head bangers, to place ourself s against The G2O protest, and when we are asked which side are we on, it is simple the side of The Working Class, with so much media attention upon what you are planning, do you not feel you have wasted another opportunity to place anarchism into the conversation? Because we feel once again another opportunity has been waisted, and this is the real shame.
bluestreak
HomosexualityIsStalin’sAtomBombtoDestroyAmerica
No definitely male.
Also, enumbers, you were active in campaigning against the G8 in 2005, what has changed, and what proposals do you have for the future of your pro-working class movement? I note that your work in Sheffield doesn't appear to be engaging with the working classes especially. Are there many others involved in underclassrising?
Also, enumbers, you were active in campaigning against the G8 in 2005, what has changed, and what proposals do you have for the future of your pro-working class movement? I note that your work in Sheffield doesn't appear to be engaging with the working classes especially. Are there many others involved in underclassrising?
Our work dose not engage with the working class, how crass an asumption, yes was was involved in 2005, a lot has changed, we gave common ground towords the Middle Class, and once again come away shafted, this was the formation of underclassrising the project and this is not about our gang is bigger than your gang bullshit, we will not enagage is such a wasted debate as this.
underclassrising was born from our desire to go back where we fealt we had an impact, as said we take direct action in our locality, hopefully we inspire inform and agitate, we aint saying we are a solutution, but as has been said would it not be grate if the old bill turned up in force and nothing was happening, we have done this and it worked..
kyser_soze
Hawking's Angry Eyebrow
So, enumbers is saying that any protests would be:
1. Mainly manned by the m/c
2. Pointless
3. Bad for the w/c because the m/c protestors would cause loads of damage and fuss and nonsence, leading to the OB and govt clamping down on the freedoms of the w/c in the future
4. The m/c are, obviously, very, very bad people.
1. Mainly manned by the m/c
2. Pointless
3. Bad for the w/c because the m/c protestors would cause loads of damage and fuss and nonsence, leading to the OB and govt clamping down on the freedoms of the w/c in the future
4. The m/c are, obviously, very, very bad people.
Zhelezniakov
Well-Known Member
enumbers is a devotee of "working class" former British army intelligence officer Andy Anderson, although the irony has been rather lost on enumbers and his mates. Mr Anderson, a divisive figure, certainly in later life, is now pushing up the daisies.
kyser_soze
Hawking's Angry Eyebrow
Who?
The ongoing soap opera of Sheffield's anarchist movement should be on TV...
The ongoing soap opera of Sheffield's anarchist movement should be on TV...
The Enemy is Middle Class has some fair points, and in need of a re writing, we would not disagree but read in context of today struggles for the working class it needs an update, because we agree with the fact that The enemy is Middle Class, dose not lead to your crass assumptions and misinformation dose it?
Mr Anderson, a divisive figure, certainly in later life, is now pushing up the daisies, and your point being? of course he was, as he asked and we will continue to ask show us the fucking rule book of Anarchism, like him we have nothing in common with The Middle Class, as Andy rightly said there not the friend of the working class but the enemy within the working class, and haveing made the effort to work with them, his argument to be frank has proven to be all but right..
Zhelezniakov
Well-Known Member
My point being that Mr Anderson was a divisive figure, as are you.
So we do not agree with The Anarchist Central Commite, we raise the issue of what point of The G20 Protest, and we become divisive, in what context?
Is not Anarchism haveing self free will and thought?
Zhelezniakov
Well-Known Member
In the context of Sheffild.
Still no reply, and just prove the point in the context of Sheffield, from 2005 to date, the only thing we have done is take images of protest actions, and a few meeting hardley fucking divisive is it?
Oh yes an posted content on indymedia that is often disgreed with, but then another arguement is that one, so ill ask again other than Sheffield in what context?
fractionMan
Custom Title
You're barking 
You're barking
Ill ask you to qualify that comment please, or another way do you have the medical qualifications to make such a crass assumption?
So one is barking what because i disagree, keep up the disinformation..
bluestreak
HomosexualityIsStalin’sAtomBombtoDestroyAmerica
Fair enough. Just you and a couple of others against the world, no shame there. Just can't find anything that shows that anyone gives a damn. There are more working class people on here who disagree with you than there are working class people anywhere who seem to agree with you.
I have to say though, i like your UE work. And underclassrising is a better website than pretentiousartist was.
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