G20 protest: Officer charged
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butchersapron
Bring back hanging
I knew that you'd be shit from your very first post btw
ddraig
kicking against the pricks...
by the same token why should DC 'live in russia' then?
who on this thread has said or even suggested that the 'whole state...blahblah'?
it has more to do with you being a full of shit goal post moving apologist cretin than having an opposing opinion to the monothought clique, you can see that can't you?
where have i ever disclosed anything relating to (other than historical) drug use?
where have i ever said "thou must abide by every law of the land"
i havent
i also think ive said many times about personal choice and responsibility
i like many choose to ignore some laws at some times..... i am sure i have broken speed limits very recently and i have disclosed that i have used illicit drugs in the past
i've even stolen in my youth, not that i am proud of that (i have tried to make amends in my life) and ive lied and cheated
however.. if i was to face the consequences of those choices.. i wouldn't be whinnying about how unfair it was
as the saying goes.. if you cant do the time, dont do the crime
who mentioned russia? not me
not this thread but it seems the norm to refer out to other threads.. just following others leads
abusive with big words.. nice
glad you acknowledge the monothought clique
glenquagmire
Rightwing NuLab apologist
I'm so wadical, up against the 'monothought clique' establishment.
No, you're an apologist for beating up defenceless women.
No, you're an apologist for beating up defenceless women.
it is difficult to argue a point when from the moment you express your opinion you are subject to abuse
read through the thread again.. see how it went
and now you are also joining the "putting words into my mouth" clique
find me one sentence where i said his behaviour to the woman was justified
please, go on
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
you recoursed to the dated arguement of if you hate this country then fuck off. Used to be expressed as 'if you love russia so much why don't you go live thier'
Not sure what mental gymnastics you did to assume that opposing state violence against peaceful protest leads me to hate my country.
The G20 protests caused so much furore over what? Police violence. Condemned tactics by the IPCC and other bodies.
and yet you seek to justify them. Makes you look a bit craven tbf
glenquagmire
Rightwing NuLab apologist
The minute you start making any defence, any 'contextualising', any 'mitigating circumstances', that is a de facto partial defence of the officer.
Hope you don't have a partner or kids. Or do they get told "well, it's your fault for being there" when you reply to an argument with your fists?
Hope you don't have a partner or kids. Or do they get told "well, it's your fault for being there" when you reply to an argument with your fists?
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
now the 'poor me' bit. It's by-the-numbers stuff here
SpookyFrank
Don't swallow the cap
Edit: retrospectively not giving a fuckwit troll the satisfaction.
yes the media did report that at the expense of balanced reporting of the thousands upon thousands of pounds of criminal damage committed to private property. but since when has the media ever given balanced reporting? its always been biased towards what sells best today
who was it that said "there is no truth in the news and no news in the truth"?
yes you are right, i did recourse to a dated argument, a weak response dredged up in me by a desire to defend from attack at all side on what was a simple sharing of opinion at the outset
it is a shame that when threatened people attack. my apologies
please watch the video again, it was far from peaceful
winjer
holocene death beat
Really? Then you'll have no difficulty quoting the offence which consists of "shouting and swearing in public", or at least the Act in which it appears.this one
why which one are you in?
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
a) go on, prove that one. Chalk graffitti and one bank window.
b) What sells is what they wanted to see. A broken window, a clash with the anarko lot. The real story, the death of Tomlinson (an uninvolved worker on his way home) was the real story and the media were two steps behind on that one.
winjer
holocene death beat
Russians, except they'd learned to use capital letters, so that it made sense:
"There's no truth in The News (Izvestia), and no news in The Truth (Pravda)."
please reread what i have said, i have stated several times there is no justification for his actions
none what so ever
been with my wife 20 years, have 3 kids from 21 through to 9
never raised a hand at my wife, have only ever smacked my kids on the back of their hands
my 21yo i smacked a few times when little, cant even recall doing so, but think i did
my 12 yo i have smacked a total of twice, on the back of his hand
my daughter has been smacked a few times, she has a rebellious nature, other sanctions to her behaviour sometimes do not curb her behaviour.
at no point did i say it was the womas fault for being there.. i merely pointed out that as he had pushed her and removed her twice before.. going back in for a third time is either stupid or purposefully antagonistic
i make it clear that even if she went in at him 300 times, it does not justify his behaviour and he should be hedl to account.. however it doesnt stop the fact that her doing so was stupid and also manet that she was in the position to receive the (illegal and immoral and unjustifiable) blow he dealt
now, why do you feel the need to make suggestions that i am violent towards my family or indeed anyone?
i am of the opinion and always have been (probably due to being on the end of physical abuse as a child for 10 years) of the opinion that the only time violence is justified is in defence of violence towards yourself or someone less able to defend themselves than you
Corax
Luke 5:16
Right there - you don't know the first thing about any of this do you.
Which explains why you ignored this (correct) statement:
So your well thought out 'she started it' argument kinda falls down at that point.
rioted
redundant
So nobody should go where they might get a smack from the pigs?
"5 Harassment, alarm or distress
(1) A person is guilty of an offence if he—
(a) uses threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour, or disorderly behaviour, or
(b) displays any writing, sign or other visible representation which is threatening, abusive or insulting,
within the hearing or sight of a person likely to be caused harassment, alarm or distress thereby. "
Public Order Act 1986
source
SpookyFrank
Don't swallow the cap
One person died. Lots more were injured, some seriously but all by coppers. I'm not sure where your 'thousands upon thousands' figure comes from (although I suspect it has its origins somewhere in the region of your arse) but it could be millions upon millions and it wouldn't come close to 'balancing' what the police did that day. Because people are, and you'll have to imagine I'm saying this to you very slowly, because people are worth more than stuff.
With the obvious exception of your good self that is. You're not worth the steam on a dog turd.
and i am completely with you on that. terrible events, cannot see on the publicly available videos why the copper did what he did, the man was walking away, even if he was being abusive or indeed had done something so terrible previously to the officer (not suggesting he did)
hitting someone from behind when they are removing themselves from you that then causes them to die (if this is the case.. i dont know, i dont have all the facts) is as far as i am concerned a murderous act
i really do hope all the facts come out and justice prevails, if it doesnt, it will be very saddening at the least
Corax
Luke 5:16
Well done for quoting the relevant bit.
Police officers are trained to police public disorder. Your argument falls flat.
so the family didnt lose the father and husband?
when did i say "she started it"?
the closest i have come to that would be:
"how the copper conducted himself was wrong..... but she acted equally as wrong by going in and in and in.. the term is provocation (but still not justifying his reaction)"
and the evidence for this "off camera" incident.... its off camera!
just to make that point like
the copper could equally say "well off camera she spat in my face and exposed a blade"
would be just as much evidence... complete bollox but........
Corax
Luke 5:16
You said 'breadwinner', not 'father and husband'.
Wiggle, wiggle.
That's exactly what you're doing by crying provocation.
And it wasn't completely off camera.
But you've just waded into this knowing sweet fuck all, whereas others on here have viewed hours off citizen video of the events over those few days.
really? im trained to deal with mental illness, it still distresses me
how in the instance of criminal behaviour, just because you are trained to deal with something makes it ok to be a "victim" of that behaviour
also, how about all the other people around? do you want the police to walk around asking each person individually if the act happened to be causing "harassment, alarm or distress thereby."?
Corax
Luke 5:16
sorry i did not make my point clearly
next time i shall do it in a manner that cannot be twisted
no, even on the shortest edits of those events you can see her going at the copper several times.. I AM STILL NOT SAYING HER BEHAVIOUR JUSTIFIED A SLAP IN THE FACE (sorry to say it so loud, but people keep missing that part)... but it is a bit daft and provocative to do so
was it off camera or wasnt it?
video viewed with an unbiased eye?
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