Future Brixton

[boohoo]

It doesn't matter Your question merely exposes your extreme naivety on the matter of modern architecture

well, although ( i think) your point is they are ugly whether they are housing or offices, it does make me wonder what exactly they will be built for. Offices? More 'affordable' housing? They seem to be designed by someone who has no care or feeling about Brixton ( probably the same person ruining Dalston Junction) Design over aesthetics....

 

[boohoo]

Once we've got hold of a balloon just using it to go to work would be a terrible shame

apart from once to impress your work colleagues...

 

[Brainaddict]

Why is everyone having a go at me today?

I was being sarcastic about architects

 

[co-op]

We could have it as the urban ballon... Start down Streatham, pick up people in brixton, then Stockwell... and onto work or the seaside....

Hmm, prevailing south-westerly winds in London means I'm seeing a Streatham/Catford/Greenwich/Stratford service as having a bit more viability here...

 

[boohoo]

Hmm, prevailing south-westerly winds in London means I'm seeing a Streatham/Catford/Greenwich/Stratford service as having a bit more viability here...

the ballon has two people in already... not sure if there is room for a huge greenwich way detour...

 

[Winot]

e2a pt II. That building on the right looks very similar to that new one the have built next to Southwark Station.

Agreed - the Palestra building (architected by Will Alsop, he of Peckham Library).

More here.

 

[cosmic malcolm]

Yes please!

Oh, and East Brixton station reopened, the Cross River Tram up and running, the market brought back to its former glory, Tate gardens put back to how they looked in 1907, a nice new prestigious public 'landmark' building for Brixton, the Coach & Horses reinstated, Cooltan rebuilt and lots of money usefully slopped around Coldharbour Lane/Somerleyton etc to give the kids something proper to do.

Sounds nice.

 

[Gramsci]

well, although ( i think) your point is they are ugly whether they are housing or offices, it does make me wonder what exactly they will be built for. Offices? More 'affordable' housing? They seem to be designed by someone who has no care or feeling about Brixton ( probably the same person ruining Dalston Junction) Design over aesthetics....

Which is my whole problem with "Future Brixton" consultation.None of the above queations are being answered clearly.Nor what residents input will be in practise.

Will land be sold to developers?Will the market remain affordable or will the Council attempt a "Covent Garden" regeneration.etc etc

Im not against modern buildings.I want to know what they will be for ie affordable housing etc.

 

[OpalFruit]

WTFOMGROFLCOPTR!!!!

That's all of Atlantic Road/Electric Lane/High Street Triangle gobbled up! Not a hope in hell, fuckers.

Editor - that's the high street at the bottom. The arches in the middle are up atlantic road - where the portugese deli is.
The large new building on the right is on top of Brady's. The Rec is to the left of that, between the two large buildings.

No - it's the wedge of land in between the two railway lines, between Popes Rd and Valencia Place. Brady's is off the picture, the other side of to the Railway line on the bottom R side of the picture.

Brixton needs a huge open public square right in the centre of course...most inviting at night

 

[editor]

Agreed - the Palestra building (architected by Will Alsop, he of Peckham Library).

More here.

It as ugly as fuck, that. Horrible, oppressive thing.

 

[editor]

No - it's the wedge of land in between the two railway lines, between Popes Rd and Valencia Place. Brady's is off the picture, the other side of to the Railway line on the bottom R side of the picture.

Brixton needs a huge open public square right in the centre of course...most inviting at night

Ah, that makes much more sense!

Brixton could really use some new, high quality, inspired iconic architecture to help put the place on the map.

Since the Empress has been flattened, at the moment it's architecturally famous for, err, the Town Hall and, um, the Barrier Block.

 

[Kanda]

Brixton isn't on the maps???

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

WTFOMGROFLCOPTR!!!!

That's all of Atlantic Road/Electric Lane/High Street Triangle gobbled up! Not a hope in hell, fuckers.

Editor - that's the high street at the bottom. The arches in the middle are up atlantic road - where the portugese deli is.
The large new building on the right is on top of Brady's. The Rec is to the left of that, between the two large buildings.

what's that blob between the buildings - a hot air balloon?

 

[OpalFruit]

Brixton could really use some new, high quality, inspired iconic architecture to help put the place on the map.

Since the Empress has been flattened, at the moment it's architecturally famous for, err, the Town Hall and, um, the Barrier Block.

I completely agree.

Good quality exciting buildings which are accessible to the public, and inspire curiosity and admiration.

 

[lang rabbie]

Previously posted on wrong thread, doh!

The "Visioning Framework" for Future Brixton - a rather grand title for the consultation draft of the Masterplan - was originally to have been published at the end of January.

It doesn't appear to be on the Future Brixton website, nor is the Questionnaire which was supposed to follow the structure of the "Visioning Framework".

Has it been pulled?

I did hear that the full cabinet only got a presentation for the first time a few weeks ago on what Councillor McGlone and the Future Lambeth officers in regeneration had been allowing the consultant architects to come up with as proposals?

 

[Gramsci]

I posted that it was confusing have two threads on future brixton.Crispy the Mod did suggest combining them.I kept using this thread as it is the older one -instead of starting a new thread every time.

Latest meetings list FB consultation:
http://www.futurebrixton.co.uk/events/index.html

 

[Jonti]

Yes please!

Oh, and East Brixton station reopened, the Cross River Tram up and running, the market brought back to its former glory, Tate gardens put back to how they looked in 1907, a nice new prestigious public 'landmark' building for Brixton, the Coach & Horses reinstated, Cooltan rebuilt and lots of money usefully slopped around Coldharbour Lane/Somerleyton etc to give the kids something proper to do.

All good stuff. I'd like to suggest that the end railway arch (where Atlantic Road meets Brixton Road) should be knocked through to allow better pedestrian circulation into Station Road as well. It would be comparatively cheap and would do wonders for access to the Station Road market and shops.

That simple and cheap measure would make access to a large, already largely pedestrianised area of the market far easier and more obvious!

 

[Brainaddict]

Urban regeneration:
http://www.theonion.com/content/news/3_by_4_plot_of_green_space

 

[g force]

I completely agree.

Good quality exciting buildings which are accessible to the public, and inspire curiosity and admiration.

Easier said than done though...Peckham Library for example may well be all of those things - depending on yr opinion - but it fails in the most basic function as a decent library.

 

[bluestreak]

i got the old public consultation questionnaire this morning. it was clear to me that many of the questions were loaded, though some didn't appear to be that obviously loaded. the idea that they're considering building high rise blocks on brixton station road is a bit shocking, but they can knock that fucking car park down and no mistake.

 

[Brainaddict]

Easier said than done though...Peckham Library for example may well be all of those things - depending on yr opinion - but it fails in the most basic function as a decent library.

Really? That's interesting. I don't like the building - I think it's a typical big-name architect ego project. When I said as much to a trainee archictect the other day he started wittering on about how the local library users loved it (which I didn't have the evidence to refute) and that it was responsible for the susbsequent regeneration of Peckham (which I highly doubted, in vigorous terms that upset him terribly ).

 

[g force]

Well quite....has Peckham become Clapham because of one building? No. The idea that one public building can overcome poverty is laughable and more about headline grabbing than meaningful regeneration.

It may well function as a library now because they stripped some of the original fittings out due to the acoustic problems and constant issues around chaning lightbulbs (you couldn't at first!!!)

The natural ventilaition idea, while laudible, doesn't really work making it hot in the summer. Oh and to top it all....the library is on the 4th floor - hardly user friendly to the entire community.

I just feel whenever "regeneration" is mentioned by councils the lessons of Canary Wharf aren't being headed...it has to have a meaningful impact on the local community.

 

[Gramsci]

Urban regeneration:
http://www.theonion.com/content/news/3_by_4_plot_of_green_space

Thats very funny.Also its accurate of the kind of stuff the Council come out with in there Lambeth Life.As well as there officers at "consultation" meetings.

 

[Gramsci]

Urban regeneration:
http://www.theonion.com/content/news/3_by_4_plot_of_green_space

Thats very funny.Also its accurate of the kind of stuff the Council come out with in there Lambeth Life.As well as there officers at "consultation" meetings.

 

[gabi]

Dont know if this was covered earlier in the thread, but I received the questionnaire thing today. Why on earth do they want to know my sexual orientation? How will that affect the redevelopment of Brixton Market? I can understand the need for the question about whether I'm disabled or not, but gay/bi/straight - please?

Anyway - I strongly disagree with every proposal in there. The weird shit they wanna put in place of the market is just wrong.

I hate our council. I really do. Every contact I've ever had with them has been negative.

Its a vicious cycle - I know people who work for other councils in London and Lambeth is seen as the pits to work for. Resulting in us getting the dregs of public sector workers and as such an even worse council, making it even harder to attract talent.

 

[boohoo]

Dont know if this was covered earlier in the thread, but I received the questionnaire thing today. Why on earth do they want to know my sexual orientation? How will that affect the redevelopment of Brixton Market? I can understand the need for the question about whether I'm disabled or not, but gay/bi/straight - please?

because they need to feel they've managed to cover all the variants in the community... do they have what religion you are? And why haven't I got a questionnaire? Am I to stockwell/Clapham way?

 

[editor]

Just filled in my form!

Love the way they kept pushing for tourism and trying to get the all clear to fiddle about with the markets.

 

[honto]

I love the way the pictures they have provided veer between indistinguishable from how it is now to completely fanciful so easily.

Is that the big spider from outside the Tate inside the buidling in the one for Brixton Exchange. And if so why is there no question about that? We might not want giant spiders in our buildings.

 

[gabi]

because they need to feel they've managed to cover all the variants in the community... do they have what religion you are? And why haven't I got a questionnaire? Am I to stockwell/Clapham way?

Yes, they ask about religion - however im assuming that could affect what they propose to do with the location of the church and the mosque. How is my sexuality going to affect town planning? More gay bars, by Lambeth council order or what? Just weird.

 

[boohoo]

Yes, they ask about religion - however im assuming that could affect what they propose to do with the location of the church and the mosque. How is my sexuality going to affect town planning? More gay bars, by Lambeth council order or what? Just weird.

It's so they can build a gay mosque for disabled people located in the right part of Brixton...