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tarannau said:
There are still a lot of decent names playing out in Brixton - recent months and I've seen Manasseh alongside Brother Culture, Mad Professor, Upstate, J-Star and a host of others, all playing in small venues with comparatively little notice. Sadly, nearly all of them earn more by going on tour to more appreciative audiences in France, Germany and further afield.

And Poland.A Polish friend of mine went to a Reggae festival in North East Poland.She did say the Festival was good.Problem was going down to the local village where Polands less enlightened would wait to beat up anyone who looked a bit "different"(Far right parties and Neo Nazis groups are big in some parts of Poland).Some young Poles are into "Alternative culture" and the festival scene thats been going in the West Europe since the 60s.

Its interesting that some East Europeans have taken to music that would have been repressed under Communist kill joys.And also that it has a following in Poland where they arent used to living in a multicultural society.
 
The website link is

www.lambeth.gov.uk/futurebrixton

I was in the market today and LBL had a stall outside Boots.They were giving out leaflets about Brixton Central Sq and "futurebrixton" and answering questions.Said they would be "consulting" on the new "Masterplan" for Brixotn and asking for comments.

As far as I know the New "Masterplan" does not involve any new ideas.Its beong made up from previous consultants reports and "consultations".Whether people will have any real input is hard to say.I asked whether there were going to be any meetings.They said (correctly) that some people didnt have time for meetings.That they would use email and written comments.Also they were going to have meetings with "local Groups". I said this affected where I lived and I would like to be consulted.When I said I was Short/Life I was met with a "Oh" from the bright young thing the Council get to meet the public.So I dont know if its going to be a situation of the Council "consulting" the "right" people and groups and not others.We will have to see.

Without going into details here of my situation Id like to point out that some sites in Brixton are on the Councils "disposal list".Which means they could be sold to a developer.Though this might not happen.

There is a danger that this new future could change Brixton dramatically.Which may be good for Lambeth but not so good for those who are wary that Brixtons character that has been built up since the 1960s will disappear into an estate agents paradise.(When I hear a Council officer talking about building "Live/Work units in Brixton I get concerned.Its another term for "Loft Living".Looks good on a report.) You only have to look at what has happened to Hoxton to see that as a warning for Brixton.
 
I emailed Future Brixton a while back,asking to be updated/consulted etc.So far Ive received no reply.Does anyone knowwhat actually is going on?

Seems to me the consultation is limited to say the least.It says a questionairre is coming out in new year 2008.But ive not heard anything.
 
Ill take that as no one knows what is happening with the "Great Consultation Exercise":rolleyes: .Ive emailed my details(twice) and given my details at the stall Future Brixton had in the market last year.

Must say Im pissed off I have not been contacted or given info on plans.Especially as I gave my email address.

Cant help but think this "consultation" is one of those stage managed affairs.
 
Gramsci said:
And Poland.A Polish friend of mine went to a Reggae festival in North East Poland.She did say the Festival was good.Problem was going down to the local village where Polands less enlightened would wait to beat up anyone who looked a bit "different"(Far right parties and Neo Nazis groups are big in some parts of Poland).Some young Poles are into "Alternative culture" and the festival scene thats been going in the West Europe since the 60s.

Its interesting that some East Europeans have taken to music that would have been repressed under Communist kill joys.And also that it has a following in Poland where they arent used to living in a multicultural society.

Never did pick this post up before but there was a Polish reggae night on in Mass not that long ago. Well by Polish Reggae I mean a night of reggae artists (including Earl Gateshead?Brother Culture iirc) put on by Polish organisers

Pretty much unadvertised it sold out well in advance. Busier than other higher profile reggae nights (including Goldfinger's/Rodigans) have been by all accounts.
 
ringo said:
I think that's a crucial point. Sounds like Sir Coxsone usually only play at Twelve Tribes meetings now. Some of the best selections I've heard in Brixton have been at 80th birthday parties or christenings, all at private parties.

The reggae crowd is getting much older, they don't go out to trendy clubs anymore, but there's still a lot of Jamaican music being played in Brixton.

There should be more bashment/one drop/this week's JA dance clubs in Brixton, but they won't attract people from outside of the scene 'cos people think they'll get shot etc.

I'm passing over Gramsci's (probably more important) posts about Future Brixton just because I was thinking about this whole Brixton-reggae question after reading this thread. Anyway I was up at 9 Elms Sunday Market last week - I haven't been for about 3 years and it's absolutely huge now thousands of people there, pretty black - African and Caribbean, very international, and I was totally struck by the music - it was reggae everywhere, lots of what they were calling "Old Skool" (ie early 90s ragga) sprinkling of lovers, revival and whatever you might be into really. Probably a dozen stalls knocking out excellent tunes - all a bit piratey and home-copied but whatever, I picked up 3 great compilations for a quid each. Very un-cool (in the sense that you could chat with the stall-holders there wasn't much snobbery at all (which a few of the old reggae shops were quite bad for I thought - anyone remember Blacker Dread? - they would barely acknowledge you in there if you weren't a super-regular who hung out all day)

Anyway, I was left wondering why there isn't a bit more of this up at Brixton market - maybe it's a bit more legal/policed there? 9 Elms/New Covent Garden is a bit of a dump really but the market almost seemed like Brixton market of the old days but shuffled up the road and all squeezed into one day. It was a good afternoon, and it'll be better in the summer.
 
tarannau said:
Never did pick this post up before but there was a Polish reggae night on in Mass not that long ago. Well by Polish Reggae I mean a night of reggae artists (including Earl Gateshead?Brother Culture iirc) put on by Polish organisers

Pretty much unadvertised it sold out well in advance. Busier than other higher profile reggae nights (including Goldfinger's/Rodigans) have been by all accounts.

The Poles have their own info network for music.Well known Polish bands also come here as well.Punk was big in the 1980s in Poland
 
co-op said:
Anyway, I was left wondering why there isn't a bit more of this up at Brixton market - maybe it's a bit more legal/policed there? 9 Elms/New Covent Garden is a bit of a dump really but the market almost seemed like Brixton market of the old days but shuffled up the road and all squeezed into one day. It was a good afternoon, and it'll be better in the summer.

Maybe as its more of an informal Sunday only Market its easier to get pitches than Brixton market.I need to go as iv heard about it from several people.
 
Went to see the Brixton Expo outside the Brixton library.There was a marquee there with various stalls -including Greens,Bradys lot and Council stalls.I really went to see about any info on the Brixton Masterplan.

Had a chat with one of the Future Brixton officers.They are assembling a new masterplan based on old consultations and reports.They have divided central Brixton into different zones.There will be meetings around Brixton this month.See here:
http://www.futurebrixton.co.uk/events/index.html

From talking to the officer Im not clear how much say people will have on the Masterplan-other than details.I said I cant really comment until there is a report/proposals to look at.Rather than asking us vague questions about what we would like.

I also said I had put myself on the Future Brixton mailing list/email list before Xmas but had nothing sent to me.They said they would be sending out stuff in the next few weeks.

What concerns me is the timetable on the Future Brixton website said this Masterplan is being consulted on in the next few months and I have not seen a lot of detail to comment on.

The officer I talked to also said they have put more info on the Future Brixton website which is correct.See above link.

If ur in the Somerleyton Road,Barrier Block area there will be a lot of changes.So its may be worth keeping up on this-New School with access through Moorlands estate,Railway side of Somerleyton road what do people want,Barrier Block to be altered possibly,CHL outside Barrier Block development to improve street frontage.
 
Looks like some pretty dramatic changes for the High Road as well. :eek:
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Looks like some pretty dramatic changes for the High Road as well. :eek:
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WTFOMGROFLCOPTR!!!!

That's all of Atlantic Road/Electric Lane/High Street Triangle gobbled up! Not a hope in hell, fuckers.

Editor - that's the high street at the bottom. The arches in the middle are up atlantic road - where the portugese deli is.
The large new building on the right is on top of Brady's. The Rec is to the left of that, between the two large buildings.
 
Looks like some pretty dramatic changes for the High Road as well. :eek:
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It's rather ugly... will they put up the kind of high rises that they will condem in 30 years time....

The high rises look like periscopes. And imposing. And not sympathetic to their surrounding.... Reminds me of the horrendous plans for dalston junction....
 
I just sent them an email.
Line 1: What the HELL
Line 2: Link to that picture
And then Arthur Dent's rant at the bipass builders (You half crazed visigoths etc.)
 
There seems to be a lot of wasted space on the left building on the first few floors just to make it look funky.

e2a. What are they supposed to be? Housing or offices?

e2a pt II. That building on the right looks very similar to that new one the have built next to Southwark Station.
 
We could have it as the urban ballon... Start down Streatham, pick up people in brixton, then Stockwell... and onto work or the seaside....

Once we've got hold of a balloon just using it to go to work would be a terrible shame :D
 
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