Fur - yes or no? Vintage?

[RubyBlue]

I am anti fur, but I don't really see the harm in this - you're not encouraging anyone to wear it, and the harm is already done. If you feel a bit icky about it though, fair enough - chuck it in the dustbin.

Rabbit fur is slightly different to other fur in that it's a by product of the meat industry, like leather, and the whole animal is used. I still wouldn't wear it personally though.

^ that's it - I just feel a bit icky about it now - it's interesting getting opinions - I used to be really lazy about recycling for instance but listening to other people has totally changed my way of disposing of household rubbish

 

[butterfly child]

fur does feel fantastic, and is dead warm... it's one of those things i can't really bring myself to care too much about, although i'd probably not bother wearing it 'cause of the abuse it's likely to attract. plus, i'm not a pimp either...

Seal fur coats feel horrible.

I stroked one in a shop in Copenhagen, because it looked so beautiful and silky soft. It wasn't. But I bet it feels lovely and soft on a seal.

Give me obviously fake fur any day. I have a fantastic gold fake fur coat, lovingly nicknamed "the hooker coat"

 

[butterfly child]

I have a vintage fur jackets that I LUV, the animal is already dead by the time i buy it for a few bucks. Synthetic fur is arguably worse for the world and its living creatures than a dead fox. My favourite jacket is my Arctic fox jacket it is so warm and soft mmmmm. I look forward to fall just so I can wear it.

Funny, I have taken an instant dislike to you

 

[Eva Luna]

I'd never wear real fur either. I think its gross.
Is there anyone here who feels that way about leather? I wear leather and suede.....

 

[Geri]

I'd never wear real fur either. I think its gross.
Is there anyone here who feels that way about leather? I wear leather and suede.....

I do wear leather (shoes) but I am not a vegetarian. I've stopped buying really soft calf leather after learning it came from unborn calves. There's no logic to it really, just seems a bit icky.

 

[Eva Luna]

Hmm its a funny one Geri isnt it.........I mean if Indian killed an animal and used as much of it as possible and didnt waste it, then to wear parts of it to keep warm is fair enough..........but to kill mother and baby for baby's soft skin...........like you say, icky. What sort of shoes use that leather btw?

 

[Geri]

What sort of shoes use that leather btw?

I dunno about shoes, they definitely use it for expensive handbags though.

 

[weltweit]

If I was living with eskimoes, I would probably wear fur.

Here in UK now, I do feel I can wear leather, but not fur.

 

[spring-peeper]

I've got a very old silver fox fur under my bed. I use it to scare the children sometimes.

I wouldn't wear it though, it's probably got fleas.

I've got a mink stole stored in one of my cupboards. I got it after my mother-in-law died and thought I should hold on to it in case one of the kids wanted it.

They all think it's gross - good thing I didn't take the hat, as well. It looked like a curled up animal. It has a face and teeth and a tail and everything.

*shudder*

 

[Agent Sparrow]

Rabbit fur is slightly different to other fur in that it's a by product of the meat industry, like leather, and the whole animal is used. I still wouldn't wear it personally though.

Yup, this is an important point, and I also think it's relevant to why leather is worn by many people who would never wear fur. I wouldn't wear rabbit fur either because fur looks like fur, but one of the problems I have with the industry is that it seems so decadent and pointless to kill a living creature, usually in a cruel way, just because it's fur is considered glamourous. As was mentioned above, if you live in the artic that's different (particularly as I think the other parts of the animal are used).

 

[spring-peeper]

The majority of the iniut wear man-made fibers.

 

[weltweit]

I used to work in a tannery.

Leathers from cows are great big smooth things, they are processed in all sorts of ways but leather on the whole is a great material, warm in winter, cool in summer and tough also.

 

[Agent Sparrow]

The majority of the iniut wear man-made fibers.

Including those groups who attempt to keep their traditions alive? I would have thought there would have been some groups who would continue to use seals etc. for fur, meat and other related products, though given globalisation I wouldn't be surprised at all if they were a small minority.

 

[spring-peeper]

Including those groups who attempt to keep their traditions alive? I would have thought there would have been some groups who would continue to use seals etc. for fur, meat and other related products, though given globalisation I wouldn't be surprised at all if they were a small minority.

I said the majority, not all.

Not all are following their traditional ways - most seem content to live in houses that don't melt, buy food from the shops and sit around watching tv.

 

[Agent Sparrow]

I said the majority, not all.

Not all are following their traditional ways - most seem content to live in houses that don't melt, buy food from the shops and sit around watching tv.

Yup, I'm aware of that. And I'm not putting value judgements at all on those who want to live that lifestyle (particuarly considering the pressure I expect there is to conform), although it's still sad when any traditional crafts become forgotten. Tbh though this is moving away from my original point, which was that when animals are used for all parts of the animal and there is a real need for warmth, the use of fur is different IMO.

 

[spring-peeper]

Yup, I'm aware of that. And I'm not putting value judgements at all on those who want to live that lifestyle (particuarly considering the pressure I expect there is to conform), although it's still sad when any traditional crafts become forgotten. Tbh though this is moving away from my original point, which was that when animals are used for all parts of the animal and there is a real need for warmth, the use of fur is different IMO.

My point was that some people think that all iniut live in igloos, etc.

As for the traditional crafts being forgotten, no worries. They are keeping their traditions alive. (I watch a fair amount of aboriginal television )

 

[Yabby You]

If I was living with eskimoes, I would probably wear fur.

Here in UK now, I do feel I can wear leather, but not fur.

Up state it can get so cold that the gas in the cars freeze long dead mr fox keeps me warm. my mom told me not to wear it in london and that I could be banged up for it in the uk is that true is was made in 1930 how can that be illegal?

 

[DotCommunist]

Up state it can get so cold that the gas in the cars freeze long dead mr fox keeps me warm. my mom told me not to wear it in london and that I could be banged up for it in the uk is that true is was made in 1930 how can that be illegal?

It's not illegal, but people would Judge.

 

[wannaseemedisco]

If only it were illegal! One day, one day.

I don't wear leather myself, unless its secondhand. All that stuff about it simply being a "by product" is rubbish, the leather is often the most valuable part of the animal.

 

[Clair De Lune]

Nah I would never wear it. I don't like the look of it anyway tbh
I have worn fake fur before, had a great old fashioned looking coat with big fur collar and sleeves but I liked it cos it was over the top and obviously not real fur.

 

[spanglechick]

if i wanted to wear fur - if the sensation and look of a fur garment was at all desirable, then i think i would find a rationalisation. I eat meat and dairy, i wear leather, merino wool...

but fur feels like dead animals. leather doesn't, meat doesn't particulary, but fur is like stroking an animalbut it's cold and still and wrong.

 

[rennie]

I inherited my grandmother's coat which has a bit of fur around the neckline. It has huge sentimental value. I would never choose to buy fur, vintage or not.