Fuel prices in your area

[zenie]

Sorry back to the fuel. What I've never understood is why the price varies so much from station to staiton within the same area - even between the same brand. I've seen a shell station selling for , say 91.9 and a shell station literally about half a mile down the road selling for 93.5 or whatever. How does that work

they price match in you area and try and be as close to the cheapest petrol station in the area.

tesco are always cheapest as they price match or cut

*Zenie used to work for Tesco *

 

[pogofish]

It is @95p in Aberdeen just now & was £1.01 in the Outer Hebrides a couple of weeks back, although the community-owned stations, away from the main road were a little cheaper.

 

[ICB]

In Brecon it's presently 91.5 unleaded and 95 diesel at Morrison's.

Not looking forward to finding out what high octane unleaded is at Esso.

 

[tobyjug]

where on earth did you get that codswallop?

Several oil experts on TV news bulletins over the last couple of days and Business Lunch BBC2. Argue with them not me.

 

[tobyjug]

His usual font of mis-information, otherwise know as Toby's Little Book of Bollocks - He quotes from it reguarly you know.

Call the oil industry experts idiots not me, they have been on TV enough over the last two days.

 

[GarfieldLeChat]

Hackney always seems cheaper than anywhere for some reason. And Walthamstow.

cos we have so many petrol stations in the area ...

 

[GarfieldLeChat]

There's bound to be a bloke he knows who builds oil refineries.
It's practically like Stella Street where Toby lives.

only duller if that possible donna lives on the corner terrace...

 

[tobyjug]

There's bound to be a bloke he knows who builds oil refineries.
It's practically like Stella Street where Toby lives.

Basically fuck off. The situation is VERY serious due to loss of refineries due to the hurricane and floods.
http://news.ft.com/cms/s/b528d332-1b20-11da-a117-00000e2511c8.html
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,9072-1761179,00.html

 

[GarfieldLeChat]

Sorry back to the fuel. What I've never understood is why the price varies so much from station to staiton within the same area - even between the same brand. I've seen a shell station selling for , say 91.9 and a shell station literally about half a mile down the road selling for 93.5 or whatever. How does that work

it's called recoverable pricing basically in soem areas they know there 40 petrol stations near by and say 10,000 users who will at any one time need to fill up in order to get your larger share of the market you need to cut your prices, in other areas you may only have 3 petrol stations you can put the price up (after all if you need to fill up at that point then you will do so other wise you run out so you have to pay more) this allows them to recover costs from losses in other areas...

in certain areas where say x petrol station is unpopular for what ever reason then they may increase the charges slightly to recover the costs even if cheaper petrol is aviaible again to get the must fill up crowd...

 

[Stobart Stopper]

Several oil experts on TV news bulletins over the last couple of days and Business Lunch BBC2. Argue with them not me.

He's right actually, my husband's grandfather designed/built lots of BP oil refineries. Pig says Tobyjug is sort of correct, probably takes a bit less time now but it takes a long time.

 

[snadge]

Several oil experts on TV news bulletins over the last couple of days and Business Lunch BBC2. Argue with them not me.

It's bollocks, I work in the industry okay, TV experts are only TV experts cos' nobody will employ 'em in the industry.

Apart from that Toby you always seem to enter debates with second hand information, and really believe it, I usually bite my tongue and say nowt cos' you act like a spoilt kid and spit yer dummy further than most people but lately you're getting worse.

fyi a refinery could be built in less than 3 months.

 

[snadge]

He's right actually, my husband's grandfather designed/built lots of BP oil refineries. Pig says Tobyjug is sort of correct, probably takes a bit less time now but it takes a long time.

arsewipe man, you are the same as toby, your husbands grandfather worked in the industry, probably at the same time it took a week to make a model T.

The money that would be lost due to lack of refining facilities would be thrown at the problem, as I have said, a working refinery could be up and running within months, it's not rocket science, it's decades old technology

edited to add that it's actually centuries old technology.

 

[tobyjug]

It's bollocks, I work in the industry okay, TV experts are only TV experts cos' nobody will employ 'em in the industry.

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I have given two perfectly good references, and the lack of refining capacity before the current disaster in America is very well documented and discussed so basically fuck off.
No new refining capacity in America or Europe has been built for decades.

 

[Phototropic]

I have given two perfectly good references, and the lack of refining capacity before the current disaster in America is very well documented and discussed so basically fuck off.
No new refining capacity in America or Europe has been built for decades.

Is it really surprising given your record that people think you are full of shit?

 

[dumbo]

Are you in the US, dumbo?

No, Canada, and Oh boy. Just went by the gas station and still 1.26. It's a really long walk to town, and even the motorcycle isn't cheaper because I need Super Unleaded fuel to run it.

 

[tobyjug]

Is it really surprising given your record that people think you are full of shit?

I could not give a monkeys fuck what people think. The crisis in oil refining capacity has been a factor in the rise in oil prices well before the current disaster. If anyone here ever bothered to watch any business news programs on TV they would be fully aware of it.
The loss of refining capacity in the hurricane is going to have very serious world wide repercussions for many years.

 

[Phototropic]

I could not give a monkeys fuck what people think.

Evidently, as shown by your lack to in any way stop yourself becoming more and more of a laughing stock.

 

[snadge]

I have given two perfectly good references, and the lack of refining capacity before the current disaster in America is very well documented and discussed so basically fuck off.
No new refining capacity in America or Europe has been built for decades.

I didn't deny that you idiot, I know no new refining facilities have been built, as you are saying it is also well documented.

No two references were given, oh sorry do you mean the two "unemployable" mouthpieces on the telly?

If you don't know what you are talking about, shut the fuck up please.

perchance have haliburton got anytrhing to do with this 15 year estimate ( which is the point I am having trouble with ) because I wouldn't be suprised if they were trying to profit out of misery once again.


and by the way here's ya dummy.

 

[Stobart Stopper]

I suppose I could ring my father in law, he was an enginer on BP refineries, but they are on a cruise at the moment. He would know, he knows everything about refineries.

 

[snadge]

there is no mention of a 15 year timeframe for building a new refinery in either of those links, so what on earth are you telling me there is for?

you are an idiot so you fuck off, you are also a liar.

 

[snadge]

I suppose I could ring my father in law, he was an enginer on BP refineries, but they are on a cruise at the moment. He would know, he knows everything about refineries.

better do that and ask him what would be the smallest time frame to build a high yield refinery with no cost restraints.

based on existing designs mind ya, saudi have been building them in a 2 year time frame, with designing included.

 

[JWH]

New refineries:

3 years estimated between permission and completion on new build in Trinidad & Tobago: http://www.energy.gov.tt/applicationloader.asp?app=newsarticles&cmd=view&articleid=150&prev=

2 1/2 years to initial production in Iran:
http://www.payvand.com/news/04/nov/1054.html

 

[walktome]

I think it's around $1.14 here, I don't drive, so I'm not sure. I've heard it's a good $3 (American too) in the states, which is so insane. But once again, I don't drive, so it doesn't affect me that much.

 

[JWH]

I think it's around $1.14 here

Yeah, but where's that and what currency are you posting in?

 

[Pie 1]

New refineries:

3 years estimated between permission and completion on new build in Trinidad & Tobago: http://www.energy.gov.tt/applicationloader.asp?app=newsarticles&cmd=view&articleid=150&prev=

2 1/2 years to initial production in Iran:
http://www.payvand.com/news/04/nov/1054.html

Hang on, I can hear a familiar noise in the background..................

...........Ah, it's the sound of Toby's parachute failing to open again.

 

[tobyjug]

Hang on, I can hear a familiar noise in the background..................

...........Ah, it's the sound of Toby's parachute failing to open again.

Pointing out the obvious none of those are in Europe or America with the attedent NIMBY and Green protesters holding up the process.
I would be very surprised if an oil refinery could be got up and running in Europe or America in less than 10 years.

 

[tobyjug]

there is no mention of a 15 year timeframe for building a new refinery in either of those links, so what on earth are you telling me there is for?

you are an idiot so you fuck off, you are also a liar.

There is no need to be so insulting you totally thick bastard. You know full well with ANY large industrial project in Europe or America the time of build it is only a 1/4th or a 1/5th of the time it takes from planning to commissioning.
Fuck off and go and play with the other rugrats.

 

[snadge]

There is no need to be so insulting you totally thick bastard. You know full well with ANY large industrial project in Europe or America the time of build it is only a 1/4th or a 1/5th of the time it takes from planning to commissioning.
Fuck off and go and play with the other rugrats.

who started with the fuck offs and the insults?

Using existing designs and and existing sites, which would be the way to go, the amount of money that would be chucked at it ( oil companies hate losing money) I still stick to 3months ( reduced distillation ) to 1.5 years ( full commission ). fair enough I didn't explain fully but you are well out with 15 yrs and you had the cheek to provide links to back up your claim, that had nothing in them about your claim.

cloud cuckoo land

same as your tax disk malarky

 

[Rohen]

Its 93.9pence for unleaded and 96.9 for diesel at the texaco up the road

There is a Shell garage three miles away which does it for 88.9pence a litre ( Hornsey Rise if anyone is interested ) ( its usually the cheapest one for miles around)

The LPG is at 42.9 here in london but at 32.9 in Yorkshire at Morrisons which I find a complete quandary

I run on LPG and have 80 litres of petrol in my tank aswell as the 52 litres of Gas when its full

I have a range of 500 miles in my 2.0 litre estate

I dread doing a full fillup for the car for petrol again....

If you use a car a lot your petrol bill will be more than your food

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Also remember that most of our food is transported by lorries so food prices will rise which is a real bummer

95.9 for petrol and 99.9 for diesel on colney hatch lane

The pound a litre day is upon us

 

[JWH]

same as your tax disk malarky

and the licence plates, and the VAT man...

If someone repeatedly says dozy/uninteresting things, just stick them on ignore, it's an editing tool.