Fuck Gentrification - Join the Fuck Parade...Part 3!

Discussion in 'protest, direct action and demos' started by ClassWar2015, Aug 14, 2015.

  1. Citizen66

    Citizen66 splash the cistern

    How is me saying he presented a false dichotomy a 'boring platitude'? Care to expand on that?
     
  2. TopCat

    TopCat It's hard now...do it faster

    Seizing space and doing what the fuck you want is rather empowering.
     
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  3. Citizen66

    Citizen66 splash the cistern

    Read the post you responded to again and point to where I said daubing graffiti on a shop window "helps the poor".
     
  4. Wolveryeti

    Wolveryeti Young Lethargio

    Looked quite a lot like you were trying to shut down Mr Retro by suggesting he didnt have a right to comment as by your assumption he wasn't involved in the fightback against the 'onslaught on the poor'.

    Unlike your beloved goons.
     
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  5. Citizen66

    Citizen66 splash the cistern

    If over-priced cereal defenders such as Mr Retro, and your good self, want to challenge my suggestion that you're do nothing wankers, then you're at Liberty to set us straight on that point whenever you're ready.
     
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  6. grit

    grit an ugly force for good

    It was a reference to class war's glib responses.
     
  7. Citizen66

    Citizen66 splash the cistern

    Right. Well quote them and not me when you mean to reply to them and not me.
     
  8. fredfelt

    fredfelt Mostly unknown member

    I could do with being spoon fed as to why this small independant business is being targeted.

    It riles me that our high streets have been taken over by UK PLC. How lax controls on capital means that banks and corporate landlords make it increasingly difficult for people to be part of their community. Massive rents mean that corporate chains usually dominate our high streets - they suck cash from the community, and in careful tax planning the money ends up in the hands of the owners and funders of the corporations. There's no local benefit, no local input. Just an efficient money making machine masterminded from faceless offices - devoid of any real character.

    However there remain a few locally owned and operated businesses which are dong what they can to make a living from the high street and in their community. To make a living there's no option but to react the the changing nature of the high street. Without the financial advantage of operating from a corporation it's massively hard to compete with these faceless, tax dodging bastards.

    The Cereal Killer cafe is undoubtedly a result of the gentrification process but they are far from the cause. If anything the small, independent operator offers hope. Hope that people can make a living without having to join the corporate race to the bottom. Hope that people can live in, and find meaningful employment in their own community.

    It might be because I'm a die hard liberal but in my mind an economy based on local operators earning a living, where cash circulates locally is far better than a corporate economy where cash is stashed away to tax havens.
     
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  9. cesare

    cesare don't mourn, organise!

    That area was already full of small independents. Those ones have been forced out/eastwards by the City encroaching and replaced by a different set of independents that cater to the well off.
     
  10. ViolentPanda

    ViolentPanda Hardly getting over it.

    Perhaps they'll reduce their prices? :)
     
  11. ClassWar2015

    ClassWar2015 classwarparty.org.uk

  12. Citizen66

    Citizen66 splash the cistern

    How many people living cheek by jowel on the local estates do you think can afford over three quid for a bowl of cereal? That's over nine fucking quid if they've got three kids they want to 'treat'. It completely embodies social cleansing.
     
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  13. ClassWar2015

    ClassWar2015 classwarparty.org.uk

  14. DotCommunist

    DotCommunist slowtime

    notice no champion arises to defend the honour of the estate agents windae
     
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  15. editor

    editor hiraethified

    Can't say I'd feel much hope for my High Street if places like that took over the existing shops.
     
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  16. ViolentPanda

    ViolentPanda Hardly getting over it.

    Exactly the same as is slowly happening throughout London and the south-east, and will eventually happen everywhere.
    How long till we're back to the situation of povs having to knock on the grocer's side door, rather than use the main part of the shop, on account of upsetting the nicely-groomed bourgeois customers there?
     
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  17. ViolentPanda

    ViolentPanda Hardly getting over it.

    More graphically, it's 3 boxes of cereal, and if they're own-brand cereals, several days-worth of milk too. :(

    How could it not? You don't need a "No Dogs, No Gyppoes, No Locals" sign in your window in order to exclude, or even high prices, just the fact of a concept for your business that aims to be exclusive.
     
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  18. ViolentPanda

    ViolentPanda Hardly getting over it.

    The estate agents can eat my clinkers, the parasitic fuckwads.
     
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  19. ViolentPanda

    ViolentPanda Hardly getting over it.

    It's happening right outside your window. :(
     
  20. Wolveryeti

    Wolveryeti Young Lethargio

    It's cool, bro. Well-established fact that when poor people can't afford something in a shop they are in favour of vandalising it. This then improves the quality of their life.

    I have some more targets for your goons: pubs. Have you seen how much more expensive a pint is compared with buying a tinny? Gentrifying bastards. :mad:
     
  21. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model every man and every woman is a star

    we can explain it to you, we cannot understand it for you
     
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  22. editor

    editor hiraethified

    Yep. And the Shrub & Shutter cocktail bar is as much use to the council estate community that overlooks it as a trendy cereal store.
     
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  23. editor

    editor hiraethified

    Why do you think the beers are so expensive? Any idea?
     
  24. grit

    grit an ugly force for good

    Class war seems to disagree.
     
  25. Wolveryeti

    Wolveryeti Young Lethargio

    Probably a very similar set of reasons to why CK charge 3 quid for a bowl of cereal. I imagine a lot of it comes down to the rent.
     
  26. ViolentPanda

    ViolentPanda Hardly getting over it.

    It's not about improving the quality of your life, it's about reacting to something (in this case a shop) that is effectively giving you and yours the finger.

    That's a poor comparison. Most pubs provide more than just booze and a place to consume it - they provide entertainment as well. Most pub drinkers acknowledge the higher cost and accept it on that basis.
     
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  27. salem

    salem Well-Known Member

    Nonsense! Not everyone in the local estates is totally broke and less than a tenner to take 3 kids out for a treat is about as affordable as it gets. Maybe some of the locals appreciate being able to take the kids out for a treat that isn't a happy meal.

    Maybe some of the young adults living locally appreciate there being somewhere they can pop into and relax in the evening that doesn't mean drinking alcohol. Probably cheaper too.

    The place doesn't appeal much to me but there are many many more viable targets along Brick Lane then this place.

    And Running around with pigs heads doesn't seem to be the best way to engage with the local community in an area that is famous for it's Bengali community.

    On a more positive note, I did like this pic tweeted by TfL. Could be a recruiting tool. I especially like the 'white collar factory' text in the background.

    [​IMG]

     
    Last edited: Sep 27, 2015
  28. ViolentPanda

    ViolentPanda Hardly getting over it.

    Nope, it comes down to market economics - charge what the traffic can bear, and the more the traffic will bear, the better, hence the way such "adventurous" outlets take care in choosing their location.
     
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  29. S☼I

    S☼I there must be something wrong, boys

    Thank fuck we don't have that gentrification nonsense up North. It'd just be smacked in the face with some coal and have the whippets and pigeons set on it.
     
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  30. Citizen66

    Citizen66 splash the cistern

    You think pubs are over-priced because they're slapping a 1000% profit on their products, or does tax have anything to do with it?
     
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